Talk:Sticklyman

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Contents 1 20X6 Poopsmith 2 Xiao Xiao 3 Come ON, people. 4 I know the truth 5 Puddingsmith? 6 Sticklyman or Stickly Man 7 Megaman Robot Master 8 Is this really necesary? 9 Speculation 10 Concerning all this conflict...

[edit] 20X6 Poopsmith

How can Stickly Man not be the Poopsmith? Granted that he's not drawn in the style of the other 20x6 characters, but he doesn't talk, he's got a shovel, and there's an obvious comedic moment when Stinkoman takes a mouthful of whatever it is in that pile and you don't know for sure that it isn't poop. If it isn't the 20x6 version of the Poopsmith, it's certainly some other elseworlds version of the Poopsmith. Until another 20x6 Poopsmith steps forward, I would consider Stickly Man to be the 20x6 Poopsmith. Thoughts? Render

I have to agree with Render here. Now nobody but the creators really know for sure, but there definitely are some clues that suggest what the stickly man is shoveling may be more than just dirt. Sure, this man/logo appears on nearly every one of the countless "under construction" animated GIFs one sees on those surely-never-to-be-completed user webpages from like 1998. I'm just saying it's being pretty bold to go out and say "Stickly man is not a reference to the poopsmith", without backing this up with facts... (Saying it's not a "The Poopsmith" reference simply because it also appears on many other web pages isn't enough, wouldn't we agree?). --Teh P. 22:00, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

You can believe what you like, but don't go saying that Stickly Man is definitely The Poopsmith just because it's possible. We should all wait until it is confirmed whether or not this is true before saying it is for certain. Ogog

I think it's fair to say that there are definitely parallels, but waiting for official confirmation is prudent. Of course, this wiki is full of wild speculation anyway. Render

I think Stickly Man is the 20X6 version of The Poopsmith. Kinda makes you wonder if maybe what The Poopsmith shovels isn't actually what it seems like it is...-Shopiom 11:44, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)

Well, he did serve it up to the King of Town... --Upsilon

I don't think you can really say Sticklyman is the 20X6 Poopsmith yet, since he's only appeared in one thing so far and it doesn't look like he will be showing up again. The only real similarity he has with the Poopsmith is having a shovel, and not enough evidence. It would be like saying that the King of Peasantry is based on the King of Town because they are both kings. What Sticklyman is digging is not poop (At least not in the "dub" version...), nobody makes any reference to the possibility that it is poop in the cartoon, and there's nothing that even implies this other than the assumption that Sticklyman is 20X6 Poopsmith. And not talking doesn't mean anything, for three reasons: 1. not every character in a cartoon has to have lines. Ripberger has never had lines, does that mean he's a reference to the Poopsmith? 2. The fight scene is ripped off from Ninja Gaiden, and in that scene neither character talks (except for the "..."). The only opportunity for Sticklyman to talk would have been after Stinkoman asked if he was asking for a challenge. One silent moment isn't equivalent to an entire vow. 3. Can YOU imagine what that guy's voice would sound like? I can't. Oh, and one final reason Sticklyman probably isn't 20X6 Poopsmith: If he's the 20X6 Poopsmith, where's the 20X6 KOT?! Tom H 18:31, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well put. -- Tony Stony

[edit] Xiao Xiao

Well this isn't all too relavent to the Sticklyman/The Poopsmith conversation but I thought Sticklyman might be an allusion to Xiao Xiao as seen on AlbinoBlackSheep.com under the stick figure flash files. But it's likely that The Brothers Chaps didn't intend for this to be anything like Xiao Xiao. To watch this series, go to AlbinoBlackSheep.com or Xiaoxiaomovie.com.

[edit] Come ON, people.

I really don't see how the possession of a shovel makes this guy another version of the Poopsmith. He's simply a reference to countless street signs, and "under construction" animated gifs on websites of old. Rudeboy87 21:47, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I agree. He bears no reference to the present-day Smith, except the shovel. A single prop isn't a lot. Also, I don't think the Poopsmith is that agile. (But that isn't a good reason, because look at Strong Bad, compared to "svelt, young" Stinkoman?) --Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds

I agree too. If there was a stick person universe on H*R like 1936 and 20X6 I might agree with that, but how can he be 20X6 if he isn't even anime or futuristic? I mean, that's like saying that those buildings in the background of the 20X6 field is the equivelent of the sky. --im a evil wizard

Indeed. Just look at present-day Poopsmith and 1936 The Devil. All they're capable is poking at stuff. Stickly Man is able to fight and challenge. In closing, I'm still not creating an account for this wiki. --24.6.162.60

So WHAT? Is Strong Bad able to fight and challenge in regular time? NO! Is the Poopsmith able to talk? NO! Also, the Poopsmith DOES shovel the poop in his character video AND in three-time halloween funjob! Answer to that, smart guy!!! So, why don't YOU come on?-A VERY ticked off Runstar Homer

I still believe that this is a reference to the Poopsmith, but this is obviously not the 20X6 Poopsmith. Has anyone considered that it could just be stick figure version, and have nothing to do with the 20X6 world?

I agree with all said here. I can't even imagine how this came up for debate in the first place. --GG Crono

Why would this not be 20X6 Poopsmith, when this is a 20X6 toon? —FireBird|Talk

I don't think it is necessarily a 20X6 cartoon. I think it's more an example of Stinko-Man being in an unusual situation, i.e. the Working sign that shows up at so many websites. And I think they saw the opportunity to make the worker character look like the Poopsmith. But that doesn't make him the 20X6 version of the Poopsmith.-Dr Pepper MD

Exactly - to say that Sticklyman is the Poopsmith 20x6 equivalent detracts from the intended humour by making a one-off joke needlessly ambiguous. From a pedantic point of view, Stickly Man doesn't qualify as a 20x6 character because he is not drawn in an anime style and does not originate from a 20x6 setting. -Grover Junior

Right.You don't see someone like strong sad walking through these 20x6 toons.-BOBLAND

(some other guy)--stick poeple are so generic that they can be just about anybody.--

[edit] I know the truth

Sticklyman is NOT the 20X6 Poopsmith. I went to see the Brothers Chaps live and asked them. He is just a little stick figure who Stinkoman killed.

Sure you did! Yeah, everyone believe this guy! </obvious_sarcasm> 70.44.146.95 04:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm if thats not reliable I dunno what is. -- Tony Stony

Is there any need, then, for the article to note that some people think he is the 20x6 counterpart of the Poopsmith?- Grover Junior

Look at The Poopsmith Discussion Page for why it wasn't removed (Coughunreleablenonamemakingupcrapcough)20X6 GEM

^ that guys funny by wich i mean 20x6 gem is cool--Valf 20:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

are you guys REALLY gonna believe this guy? he's obviusly lieing!-User:Timmy!

[edit] Puddingsmith?

Why do you guys keeps removing the neutrally of Stickly Man's occupation? So what if Stinkoman, 1-Up and Pan Pan think Stickly Man shovels pudding? Strong Bad says he's a ladies man, but is that necessary true? --TROGGA! 00:22, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What evidence is there that it isn't pudding? --DorianGray

What DorianGray said. There's plenty of good evidence that Strong Bad isn't a ladies man, but what reason is there to think that Stinkoman's lying about the pudding? Homestar Coder 02:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What Dorian and Amanda said. Absent evidence to the contrary, we have to assume Stinkoman can correctly identify what is pudding. My two-year-old cousin can correctly identify what is and isn't pudding. — It's dot com 14:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sticklyman or Stickly Man

His name is never actually spelled. I think "Sticklyman" looks better than Stickly Man, and goes along with "Stinkoman" better. - Joshua

Um... hello? I need feedback or else I'll just change it. - Joshua 14:22, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree--after listening to Under_Construction, when Stinkoman says "Sticklyman," it sounds like one word. Trey56 15:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think it looks fine as it is now (as two words instead of a compound word). I also listened to Under Construction. There is already a redirect at Sticklyman. But if you want to change it to match the compound word Stinkoman, go right ahead. —THE PAPER ^PREEEOW 15:34, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I can't seem to move it over the redirect... - Joshua 16:05, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Obviously, now you have. Or someone else has. — _talk Bubsty _edits 02:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Megaman Robot Master

Being that Stinkoman somewhat parallels Mega Man, I'm thinking that Sticklyman is made to be like a Robot Master *Name ending in -man, animation demonstrating power before fight). That might mean that Sticklyman is just a random "boss", and not based on anyone. What do you think?

[edit] Is this really necesary?

This article is about a stick figure. A stick figure that appeared one time on the site. It really seems superfluous. Correct me if I'm wrong...

He was a major antagonist of Stinkoman, however. And there are articles that are much less than this one... And it's still entirely possible that he could crop up again. --DorianGray

Yes, it is possible he could appear. After all, I don't ever remember "killing" on the site. They changed Homsar from dead to severly injured (and made him talk sensibly for the first and probably last time, I might add), so stickly man is probably gonna come up again.Runstar Homer 18:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speculation

Considering this, should we remove the part about Sticklyman possibly being the Poopsmith and then move him to a see also section? Bad Bad Guy 23:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally I don't care if it's on the page or not, but consistency matters to me. It's on Shadowy Figure and i added it to Sticklyman. Either it goes on all of these or none. Which is it? — Defender1031*Talk 02:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

With the Coach Z/Shadowy Figure thing, there's strong pictorial evidence to suggest an identity. I'm not crazy about it, but there it is. However, here and on Rumble Red, there is no real strong evidence to link these to our real-time characters Poopy or Nebby. Therefore, the use of a See Also tips a hat to the speculation without ever speculating in the article. Do you see the logic here? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, a "see also" seems like a stronger connection to me than saying "it might be". "See also" seems to imply that the pages are directly related somehow. — Defender1031*Talk 02:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I disagree. "See also" implies the following article might be of further interest. An article on famous sword fights might have a "see also" on "fencing" - does that imply one is "directly" related? No, they are loosely related. That's the value of a See Also, you can direct readers to pages which aren't totally dissimilar in content but aren't really notable in a link within the prose. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

No, a see also is saying "these pages are related" either it's same category, or similar theme, or similar content. — Defender1031*Talk 02:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Well yes, they are similar. Stickyman and The Poopsmith are the only characters who regularly use a shovel. Nebulon and Rumble Red are both alien life forms. But the similarity stops there. They are related, but not so much as to allow a real link between them beyond the topical. However, The Shadowy Figure bears a distinctive resemblance to the sillhouette of Coach Z, and as much as I am personally not fond of saying that's proof enough, consensus shows it's good enough. But that's got more going for it than these two. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I give up! — Defender1031*Talk 03:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, don't. It was just getting fun. ;) Seriously, take time. We have plenty. Is there anything above you want to ask about or contest? That's what talk is all about, man. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, come ON! they're both disliked aliens! they're both silent shovel-wielders! What more do you need? By shadowy figure there's only one point of comparison, by both of these there's TWO! — Defender1031*Talk 03:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm with Qermaq, they only bear one simularity. Not Reasonable enough.--Kanjiro talk 03:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm interested in what the two similarities each are. I see ons similarity each, for all three. The one for CZ is the most compelling, being a visual similarity the other two don't have. So what's the other similarity? Or, what is more compelling about their similarities? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Rumble Red/Nebulon

1. Disliked
2. Aliens

Sticklyman/Poopsmith:

1. Silent
2. Shovel-wielders

Can I make my meaning any more clear? — Defender1031*Talk 03:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, with sticklyman he is just a little man that is on most common under construction sites, i don't really know how to explain this but... it's not like he is a person i think? it's sorta is like the system is down, showing a real world thing.--Kanjiro talk 03:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid the See Also section may be too confusing for first-time viewers, and the lack of explanation takes away any form of notability. --Trogga 21:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, trogga, I couldn't have said it better myself. I think that stating clearly "there may be a connection" is better than just throwing a see also out there to be interpreted however. As Homsar says "[See Also is] open to interpretation." Stating something directly is not. — Defender1031*Talk 21:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Look above.--Kanjiro talk 21:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning all this conflict...

Why can't we just put in the paragraph "Sticklyman MAY be a 20X6/other alternate version of the poopsmith. However, there is little evidence for or against." --65.87.242.28 18:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Because that's not very encyclopedic. (And what conflict?) --DorianGray 20:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Needs to be said: Whether or not Sticklyman and the Poopsmith are the same, the similarities are worth mentioning. — 76.79.214.130 (Talk | contribs) 17:18, 21 March 2019 (left unsigned)

No, it doesn't need to be said. No, it's not worth mentioning. The similarities are "they both have a shovel". That's it. And Sticklyman has a shovel because the classic icon they're parodying has a shovel, not because maybe it's the Poopsmith. Sure, they could have made him the 20X6 poopsmith, but that would be an afterthought. and in the lack of any indication of them having had that afterthought, there's nothing to note. — Defender1031*Talk 01:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)