Talk:Strong Bad's (Mis)use of English

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This is off to a great start. If I might offer a suggestion, I think it should stick to instances that were obviously errors (i.e. not Strong Bad simply choosing to use non-standard usage for colloquial effect, e.g. "all i gotta say"). And I'd prefer to leave out situations where his own self-consciousness shows that he really knows he's making stuff up (e.g. trembalo), but that's your call. —AbdiViklas 16:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. "Gotta" is informal but perfectly acceptable in context. — It's dot com 16:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I just threw gotta in there to see what people thought. Having reread it since, it makes little sense in the context of what I'm trying to archive here. Trembalo is one of the made up words I want to have in here and I may make a seperate section for just those, depending on how many I can find. The only ones that leap to mind are burninate and fangoriously, so I don't recall how many there are. Thanks for the input guys!
---Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 21:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Standardization

Ok, if you find anymore spelling errors or new words please include a description of the error and italicize the word/words in question. Also, thanks to everyone who's worked on this page and to the few people i directly ripped off while making the bare bones of it. I tried to be original on my descriptions and not just cut and paste, but there were a few brilliant quotes in the episode pages.

(In particular, I "stole" the quote about Strong Bad's curiousity misspelling. I don't know who wrote it, but it was a cool quote and I tried to find out who it was, to no avail. If you wrote that and are reading this, you rock.)

Anyway, keep on tranglin' everyone.
---Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 18:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Credit User:It's dot com, per this edit. -- Tom 20:18, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Tom! How'd you do that? I sifted through that history for half an hour and never found that edit! Is there some kind of search parameter I missed in there that I missed? Thanks again.
--Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 20:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All up ons?

Should the phrase "All up ons" from suntan be regarded as a made-up word? I guess technically only the word "ons" is made up, but it is still clearly an example of substandard language, so I suggest that it should be included somewhere. Heimstern Läufer 21:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be included. We included other made up phrases like anydangway and somethetimes so I think it should be fine. Good work by the way! Keep 'em comeing along.
--Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 21:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further Standards and practices

Just in case anyone is curious, I didn't include any spelling or grammatical errors Strong Bad makes while imitating or otherwise insulting people by copying their mistakes. All the errors listed on this page should be genuine accidents made by S.B., and not his clever attempts to be funny. Also, the second heading has been changed to include made up phrases as well; stuff like "all up ons" or "all is on" should be included as well. Keep on Tranglin'!
--Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 05:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, I don't care if you've used some of Strong Bad's slang in the past. The fact is, if it's slang and Strong Bad uses it, it goes on this page. None of us are as famous/infamous as Strong Bad, so we don't make words well-known. He does. --Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 04:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "I'm-a" - Not A Made Up Word

Update — Some dip edited my post and made it call Strong Bad "Sara," and say that Ebonics is older than English, and that I'm gay (if I ever meet that loser in real life, I'll...) and worst of all, they made the note say I'm a wack rapper. Must've been a former friend of mine looking for revenge or something. As I was saying before some vandal who's pretty gay gave my post the Strumstar Hammer treatment, "I'm-a" is a slang term used in hip-hop, probably derived from Ebonics or something, and Strong Bad and Coach Z are wannabe rappers, so they say it sometimes. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)

[edit] Repulserance?

I'm pretty sure Strong Bad says "repulsor lifts". Recommend review and editing.

[edit] TGS typos

Should typos made in Teen Girl Squad (I'm thinkin' issue 10, specifically) be counted? I dun' see why not. Evan

Also Issue 12. I mean, he does know how to spell "Valentine's", right? --Addict 2006 17:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edit

Explaining edits: 1. made up words are not necessarily "mistakes". Altered the intro to reflect this. 2.various minor rewords. 3. Non-PCness is not a spelling/grammar error (It's kinda in line with his character, actually), nor is ignorance of german (not really notable for this purpose) . 4. Nothing ungrammatical about "M.L.A.", it just doesn't match their abbreviation standard. 5. His use of gooder is just meant to sound funny (not a mistake) (see above) (I think that's all...) DAGRON 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I realize that some of Strong Bad's portmanteaus are listed in the second section. It should be all or none, don't we think? DAGRON 03:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Be bold!!!

I'm gonna be bold and clean up this article. Too many made up words already are on the portmanteau list. --Jellote 22:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Frequently misspelled words

Do we want to start including words like "woah" that Strong Bad frequently misspells? I remember when someone tried to create a page about instances when "never mind" occurred as one word instead of two, and that got shot down in a day or so. I think that the page would start looking too redundant if every third thing was one of the words Strong Bad continues to misspell every time he uses it. The Knights Who Say Ni 19:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Why not? Misspelled is misspelled. Nobody is saying we need a whole article for individual misspelled words, but listing them here is certainly appropriate. I combined all the "whoa" entries on one line, which is how I think such cases should be handled. — It's dot com 19:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
basically i thought this article was for words that Strong Bad would normally have caught. If he continually misspells a word, it's a sign that he wouldn't ever catch the error. that's why i decided to revert the edit The Knights Who Say Ni 19:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
and i quote a great wiki user on the link i provided:
"TBC really only got never mind wrong once, by having it wrong in their heads to begin with. Each example listed in the article is just an instance where they happen to use it."
This dc quote backs why I believe incidences of "woah", "ya'll", "nevermind", etc. should not be included in this article. The Knights Who Say Ni 05:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
TBC do start eventually spelling these things correctly, though—or, at least "whoa", anyway—so it's useful to see where/when it was wrong. --DorianGray 06:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Knights: You're misapplying that quote. That same great wiki user also said that we don't "need a whole article for individual misspelled words, but listing them here is certainly appropriate." The argument was against having a separate article for a misspelled word, not that the misspelling shouldn't be noted at all. The words you mention would fit just fine here. — It's dot com 16:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
^i still feel like the post starting where the carrot is pointing hasn't been taken into regard.
i don't think it makes sense to start allowing words that we've always kept out of the page for the same reason. and yes dc, you did say that. thanks for reminding me. however, iirc (which i might not), there were about nine instances of "Nevermind" spelled wrong listed on that page. This page would get cluttered even if we put them all on the same line.
I think a compromise worth trying would be to have a separate subsection for words sb consistently gets wrong all the time, per the dc quote i pointed out. if tbc don't know how to spell it right, sb will never get it right. there's a big difference between not knowing in the first place, and knowing, but still getting it wrong. pact and trofesssionalism is the only thing that comes to mind. (yes, i looked through the page, and i still think that's the best example) unfortunately, there is also what appears to be an intentional swap in that example. i think that's why this instance is not listed on the page right now, but the three s's still don't seem intentional. putting "woah" in the same place as all the other mistakes doesn't feel right, but i would be willing to have it and the others in a subsection after everything else if it would end this section of the talk page. The Knights Who Say Ni 18:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Whatever happened to capitalization? It used to be so cool. Addressing the post the caret is pointing toward, the page intro reads, "Although Strong Bad is quite obsessive about everyone's spelling, grammar, and punctuation, he still makes some of the same mistakes himself." That would seem to include all mistakes he makes. I suppose I'd be okay with a section devoted to mistakes Strong Bad habitually makes as opposed to one-time instances. By the way, although there were eight items in the list where never mind was misspelled, only three of them were from unique emails (a fourth was from rock opera).— It's dot com 19:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
are you serious? well, at least i know how to spell diamond weight and gold purity, but i seriously thought ^ was called a carrot b/c of its shape, like you could point an orange vegetable upward. if not, why is it called a caret? or is this one of those unanswerable "why" questions that should be avoided? and yeah...i started social networking right near the end of the aim generation. my brother told me that typing w/proper capitalization in aim looked weird. that carried over to every other networking/wiki talk site i've ever been on. i came really close to typing this talk post in all caps, when i realized the response would be something along the lines of: "Number A: You don't have to shout. Do you know how many..." yeah, you get the point. i don't really feel like starting a subsection there at the moment; maybe later. The Knights Who Procrastinate 18:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
You might be more familiar with the caret as the little v you draw when you need to add a word to a sentence. Caret comes from Latin and means "there is lacking". In other words, "something's missing from this sentence in this spot" (and then next to the caret you put what was missing). — It's dot com 02:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Rename

Rename to Strong Bad's Grammar 'cause it's not just spelling. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 18:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Except grammar isn't spelling, so that's not more of an umbrella term. "Strong Bad's Spelling, Grammar, Punctuation, and Made-up Words" seems rather verbose. — It's dot com 00:47, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Strong Bad's Writing? Strong Bad's Grammatical Errors? Strong Bad's Mistakes? hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:26, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Strong Bad's Writing seems like a fairly good title to me. It pretty much covers it all. Lira (talk) 03:42, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Writing as well. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:30, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Anyone else? Can we rename the page yet? hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:29, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Writing sounds like his short stories or poetry or something. If we really must change it, we can do better. — It's dot com 03:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
I agree with dotcom, for the same reason he stated. - 13:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, now that you've pointed that out, I agree as well. However, I still think it should be renamed. Not to Writing, but maybe Grammatical Errors or something similar. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't really think it needs a rename, but if it does, how about "Poor English"? — Defender1031*Talk 03:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Except "Poor English" would have to include all instances of poor English (as opposed to just Strong Bad's), and might overlap with and/or be too similar to Deliberately Poor English. Strong Bad's Poor English might be fine, though. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:11, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I meant "Strong Bad's Poor English"... When I said "Poor English" I meant "instead of 'Spelling' in the title", not "as the entire title". — Defender1031*Talk 04:28, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
I might also suggest splitting off "Strong Bad's Poor English" from "Strong Bad's Made Up Words". — Defender1031*Talk 04:28, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
I think a split is more warranted than a rename - 16:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
I agree. Let's do both. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:16, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
No, I think the quote at the top ties the whole page together thematically and it should not be split. A possible title: "Strong Bad's (Mis)use of English". — It's dot com 01:46, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Ooooooh! I like that! — Defender1031*Talk 02:10, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
As do I. Let's do it. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Done. — It's dot com 23:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

[edit] "Woah" is perfectly acceptable

Remove the entry for "woah", please. It's just a simple alternative spelling, like U's in armo(u)r and colo(u)r. Pac2005 (Talk | contribs) 00:18, 12 March 2019 (UTC) (left unsigned)

From a quick google search: ("In the last decade the misspelling of whoa as woah has become somewhat common, but it is not considered an accepted rendering of the word.")
No, it's not like the U's in those words, thats an American vs. British thing. This is a modern misspelling, plain and simple. — Defender1031*Talk 02:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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