Talk:The Ugly One

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Contents 1 Pinebark 2 Jimmies 3 Time for a gallery? 4 Sand? 5 Uggs? 6 The Virus 7 Integral Article in TGS 14 8 The ugly one's possible real names

[edit] Pinebark

Without looking too exhaustively into this, what in the heck is Pinebark? Since the Ugly One listens to it, I'm assuming it's a band. Or perhaps I should look at it literally - it's almost more amusing to imagine the Ugly One listening to a conifer.--The Smoking Monkey 14:21, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmies

I'm on a Trivial Rampage today! How many folks out there refer to "sprinkles" as "jimmies" or vice versa? I know there's some debate about this (some say it's a pop/soda regional distinction, some that they're actually two different things), so how about it?--The Smoking Monkey 15:04, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I think it should be noted. I live in the northeastern US, and most folks around here simply say "sprinkles." However, my family refers to the rainbow topping as "sprinkles" and chocolate ones as "jimmies." It's different and confusing. Teh_Frossty_One

Wow, I thought I was the only one who made that particular distinction. Must be a northeast thing. Homestar Coder 19:39, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Time for a gallery?

I hope I didn't overstep any bounds by uploading colored pictures of the Squad, but I likes the look. And, since The Ugly One got a makeover, I added that, too. Is it time for a gallery? I think the page is looking pretty messy. THE SMOKING MONKEY 16:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it looks fine like this. — _talk Bubsty _edits 03:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sand?

Seriously now. Why is there a wiki link for "sand"? That's like wiki-linking "ocean" or "sky". If you don't know what sand is, you can almost certainly guess by watching the toon. Crystallina 20:49, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I've been noticing people wiki-linking obvious things too, but this page seems like a magnet for it. I mean, psoriasis is okay, and maybe jimmies, because I did not know what those were, but I think most people know what hygiene, uglyness, and sand are. I almost laughed when I first visited this page. Has Matt? 23:50, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

The links aren't always about learning what something is, but rather learning more about something. Although I'd admit that ugliness and sand are going too far. - Joshua 01:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, it does more help then harm. In fact, it doesnt do any harm at all. there could be someone who doesn't know much about sand... like me.... — _talk Bubsty _edits 00:04, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I would take out "ugliness" and "sand", but hygiene and psoriasis are fine.--T3H_CH3K7_888 19:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Uggs?

In the Camp episode, where Cheerleader used the term "Uggs," I was under the impression she was referring both to The Ugly One and What's Her Face, not just The Ugly One. I thought this because Uggs are a type of boot, and Ugg is singular. :D I know this is nit-picky, but it seems like the line referring to the term "Uggs" should be removed.

No, it's pretty clear it refers to The Ugly One only. She uses it directly to only The Ugly One twice: once one saying who'll bunk with her, and once when telling her to be her wingman. What's Her Face was not even present at the second time. --DorianGray

) OK, thanks...I need to watch things more carefully. Danke!

[edit] The Virus

Should there be a link to her virus form in the article?--ONESTOP 02:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Integral Article in TGS 14

In TGS 14 Quarterman calls The ugly one "ugly one" without "the" repeatedly. Is her article really integral. I vote no. Physicsguymonsterman 16:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Integral articles aren't always consistent. Sure, The Cheat is almost never named without "The", but look at The Poopsmith or The King of Town. She's called "The Ugly One" often enough that there's no reason for us to drop it from the article title. --Jay (Gobble) 16:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The ugly one's possible real names

A real name is not "The". Therefore this is not a possible real name. If her name is not Kristen, then it's not The either, and therefore it should just read "whose "real" name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer."

tell me i'm wrong and i will make myself banned for life. — 66.67.31.38 (Talk | contribs) (left unsigned)

You're wrong, and here's why "The" is chosen over "Kristen". In TGS 1, So and So is killed, and What's Her Face calls her "Kristen", so The Ugly One can't be Kristen. In TGS 10, however, The Ugly One's dad is called Manolios Ugly One, then by Western naming conventions, her surname would be "Ugly One" and her given name would be "The". Also, don't ban yourself for life, just contribute in keeping with established consensus. Flashfight 08:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

DUDE, my point is that "The" is not a real name. There are 4 girls. One of them has the name Kristen, so it should say "whose "real" name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer." and leave "The" out. "The" is part of her "fake" name. your backstory may be true (i'm not that big of a geek) but it still doesn't mean that the word The is a "possible" real name, because THE IS NOT A REAL NAME. i've run into this problem before. you make a tiny little change that isn't really wrong and someone who is "patrolling" changes stops you and reverts it before you can even refresh the page without thinking that it might possibly be right. it makes me wonder why this site is even a wiki. why not just have a group of 20 super geeks that makes this site. i'm not gonna change it again, i'll just stop visiting the site. — 66.67.31.38 (Talk | contribs) (left unsigned)

I understand your frustration, and I think I can deal with this by separating it into two separate issues.

1. "The" is not a real first name: Well, neither is Homestar, Viklas, or any other of the dozens of H*R characters that don't have 'real' first names.
2. The your edit specifically is being reverted: I mean no offense to you (even though you obviously mean offense to me) by reverting your edit. Honestly, the revert was only to reinforce a firm held community consensus. That is really the strength of a wiki, not that any person can edit it at whim, but the fact that a community, working together towards an idea of consensus will leave the Knowledge Base a little better at the end of every day.

I think this issue is one that is slightly larger than you and I, so I would open it up to the entire community. Should we or should we not include "The" as one of The Ugly One's possible names? Flashfight 08:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

ok, so as a young guy i have a tendency to get a little more vulgar and offensive than i ought to be, but that doesn't matter and it's bound to happen over this type of completely anonymous medium. anyways, here's my point, a little more clearly.

in the email "Comic" there are 4 names mentioned, the "real" names. TGS was invented from this email and the idea was that it was about these 4 girls. One of these names, Kristen, is already taken by one of the girls. This leaves 3 "real" names. Your intellect has taken it a little too far, forgetting that we are talking about the 4 names that were mentioned in the sbemail "Comic". "The" cannot be one of her possible real names because The is not a name mentioned in Strong Bad Email #53. Get it? — 66.67.31.38 (Talk | contribs) (left unsigned)

I agree that there is merit to that argument, however there is also merit to the The argument. With just as many mentions between them (one a piece) I would say that it is just as likely that she would be The as Joy. Now, there is an argument to be made that, since none of the other 'real' girl's names have been mentioned since TGS 1 and since they have referred to each other as their 'fake' names since then that TGS 2-14 do not actually describe Jennifer, Joy, Kristen, and Virginia but instead four autonomous characters, (the teenage girls between the ages of 13 and 19 we know and love today). Flashfight 09:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I want to repeat that this is larger than the two of us, and want to again open it up to the community. — 66.67.31.38 (Talk | contribs) (left unsigned)

I hear your argument anonny and i recognize it. It is a good one, but i still disagree. Firstly, "Kristen" is definitely out for reasons already mentioned. I'm inclined to think that "The" is possible, based on the fact that all of the girls have had indications that their names are their real names. Furthermore, TBC have been known to hone their ideas as time goes on, and a single appearance in the invention of something is not an indication of something's status necessarily. Homsar doesn't speak coherently, the King of Town is not marzipan's father, etc. Lastly, the line "i miss kristin-a" from TGS 1 suggests that their names are not as clear to the girls themselves as all that. (And a side note to Flashfight, Viklas is a real name, it originated from a swedish email sender, remember? but the point is still true, none of the characters on the site have "real sounding" names. Pom Pom? WTC is that, that's not a name, that's a fluffy ball...) — Defender1031*Talk 16:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

"The" could be a real name. Heck, I could legally change my name to "The" if I wanted to. OptimisticFool 17:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

So I don't know if anyone else will go with this, but I assumed that when DnD Greg calls Manolio "Mr. Gly-One," he was using his real last name, making The Ugly One's name Theu Gly-One (or perhaps Thea Glyone) I think this is a funny kind of joke, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.--SkyJ.Donuts 01:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)