Talk:being mean

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1 Reading Rainbow reference?
2 Screenshot
3 Accreditation
4 Goblin Keep Siege?
5 Homestar's Tongue
6 Coach Z's arms
7 The bear facts
8 Drawing Reference?
9 SB Peeking?
10 Bestest/Greatest
11 Likes to get what?
12 Character video
13 Subject Line Puns
14 Being Nice or Being Mean?
15 Coach Z gets Noice! Easter Egg
16 gem_.exe
17 Comentary
18 Swearing

[edit] Reading Rainbow reference?

Stongbad says "But don't take it from me...". That sounds similar to the token phrase from Reading Rainbow: "But don't take my work for it...". Maybe too far of a stretch. — 65.208.30.254 (Talk | contribs) 17:00, 8 September 2008 (left unsigned)

It's the first thing I thought of. — 75.73.70.113 (Talk | contribs) 23:01, 8 September 2008 (left unsigned)

I don't think it's a reference. --Jay (Gobble) 18:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I think it is, It's very Burtonesque and it goes with the teachin' kids stuff theme of the email 24.254.225.128 19:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

It's "But don't take my word for it..." and if it was a reference they probably would have used that wording.--Pop tire 20:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshot

I found myself wondering where that screen shot came from that was used on the main page. It turns out it's from an Easter egg. I don't know what our policy on using Easter egg screenshots as the main screenshot that represents the email is, but I would be against doing this. Furthermore it's not really a shot of any of the "action" that takes place in the email. I would think a shot of the play itself, or maybe of Strong Bad abusing Homestar with the ice cream cone, would be a better choice.

Anyone? Octan 17:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

When I uploaded this screenshot, I wanted to take one similar to the one in the Toons Menu, which is the KOT in front of an empty blackboard. To get this image, one would probably need a flash decompiler, which I don't have. So I just took a similar one. However, if you want to replace it, go ahead. T^C_IC (Talk to me / Stuff I did) 17:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

We don't make screenshots based on the toons menu anyway. — Defender1031*Talk 17:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay, didn't know that. T^C_IC (Talk to me / Stuff I did)

On a similar note, why do we have two different screenshots on two different pages? Shouldn't they be the same? O.K., I've finally got off my butt and decided to make this page.

Hello, H*R Wiki Friends and Losers! I am Dungeonman262, a new(er) guy 'round here. I don't do many major edits; just spelling and a few fact checks here and there.

How did I find out about Homestar Runner? Well, it all happened in January of 2008, when my brother and I were talking about something related to the end of the world (I think...), when my brother said, "There's only one thing that can save us now...Trogdor the Burninator!" However, neither of us knew what Trogdor was; he had only seen it ona T-Shirt once at camp. So, we Googled it, and came across SBE-Mail 58. And the rest is history...

NOTE: This page is STILL under construction, so stay tuned... 4:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah! Why doesn't a Sysop edit that? I thought Sysops could edit the Main page...

I just replaced it. (the one on the main page). BTW., you don't need to be a sysop for that, you just have to edit Template:whatsnew, which is only semiprotected (meaning that anonymous users can't edit it). T^C_IC (Talk to me / Stuff I did) 00:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Whoever is williing to do it, please put my screenshot (the current one) on the page. They REALLY need to be the same. — MichaelXX2

I'm not too sure with the current image. It's a funny image, sure, but doesn't it spoil the funniest part of the email? I'd rather have Strong Bad and Homestar with the ice cream cone. – T he C hort 14:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

And by the way Commander, all you have to do to take a screenshot of the toons menu is to go here. — MichaelXX2

00:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Accreditation

The King of Town's reference about not losing accreditation may be inspired by the Clayton County, Georgia school system's recent loss of accreditation about a week ago. Clayton County is directly south of Atlanta, TBC's home base. [1] — 68.36.181.124 (Talk | contribs) 19:42, 8 September 2008 (left unsigned)

Yes. This is the truth and is not linked to any other school system, because a school system hasn't lost accreditation since 1969. — 160.10.7.115 (Talk | contribs) 22:55, 9 September 2008 (left unsigned)

[edit] Goblin Keep Siege?

It might be a bit of a stretch, but couldn't Nice Dad's third email (to the 42-year old etc.) be a reference to World of Warcraft, or at least MMOs in general? Goblin Keep sieges in particular makes me think of WoW. -Zero.exe

I think it was a mention, not really noteworthy though - Wecannotbesaved 00:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

It's not WoW. It's a parody of the indie game "Dwarf Fortress," a game that you control a fortress of dwarves and defend against goblin sieges. (MNC)

[edit] Homestar's Tongue

First time we see homestar's tongue? I'm going to check the rest of the site, but I'm pretty sure him licking his stack of dairy is the first time we see it... Anyone want to help verify? --Flytape8490 23:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I guess so. It sure could be a reference... — MichaelXX2

but what would the reference be to?--Flytape8490 01:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the fact to Trivia -Telamon 01:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

We're not counting the part where Homestar as John blows his nose as the first instance we see his tongue? --66.82.9.80 02:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well spotted. I suspected it had happened before -Telamon 02:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Darn. So close to my first real contribution. ^^'--Flytape8490 22:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's arms

Coach Z's arms are messed up; they are separated at the elbow.

I'm not so sure about this "goof". While it's technically true (that's how they are animated), it doesn't seem to be significantly different here than in any other toon. Am I missing something? Green Helmet 00:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Look for the outline of the lower arm separating the upper arm in certain poses. that usually doesn't happen. — Defender1031*Talk 00:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean the lower arm being drawn on top of the upper arm instead of underneath it? That seems to be pretty common. I found one or two frames where there's an actual gap between them though.

Green Helmet 01:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

It's not entirely uncommon, at least, and definitely not restricted to this one toon. --DorianGray 19:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The bear facts

Uh. That's not a bear. The ears look more like eyes to me. And the eyes look like nostrils. Also, what's with the spikes on its arms? DEI DAT VM^┌_{datvm center}\^{super contra}_┘ 23:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Fur? Anyway, compare the ears and eyes to those of the Bear Holding a Shark. --Jay (Gobble) 23:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, granted, I just checked and the eyes don't match the BhaS as well as I remembered. Still looks like a bear to me though. --Jay (Gobble) 23:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Before I read this topic, there was no question in my mind that it was a bear. Now, it still looks like a bear to me.

Green Helmet 00:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Y'know, you've got a point there. I just accepted that it was a bear, but it does have some decidedly monster-like characteristics. (Image) I do still contend that the intended effect is the KoT's crown as the beast's lower jaw. -ReverendTed 01:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I see a reptilian monster with an elongated snout (the crown IS the lower jaw), and i'm sure that was the intention. I do, however, see how one could think it's a bear. Similar to the old hag/young woman illusion, the "bear's" eyes are the nostrils, and the "bear's" ears are the eyes. — Defender1031*Talk 01:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drawing Reference?

Um, this probably isn't a reference, but could the Chalkboard Bear and the "Hungry Shark" possibly refer to the Bear Holding a Shark? Strong king homsar smith 00:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SB Peeking?

When the New Paper comes down at the end, SB moves the picture of "Hungry Shark Emails" downwards to show the parts covered by New Paper, which is basically the formula followed for Homestar Peeking. Should this count as a reference? I know the other characters rarely if ever do this... -Zero.exe

No, Strong Bad moved a piece of paper at, like, the second the paper came down. So, he could've just done it so it wouldn't get messed up or something like that. Doesn't really qualify as peeking. JCM 22:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bestest/Greatest

Um, this got DELETED, but I am pretty sure that in Coach Z's rap (including the easter egg), he says "bestest" instead of greatest, except the last time that greatest is said in the easter egg. Can anybody confirm/disprove this? Strong king homsar smith 22:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Greatest. definitely. "Bestest" isn't even a word. — Defender1031*Talk 22:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Pfargtl, Biz, Caz, Fri, and Whatsit don't appear in the dictionary, and in the dictionary I'm holding, bestest does. Also, when Coach Z says greatest for sure at the end of the easter egg, it sounds completely different than when the transcript says that he said greatest. Strong king

homsar smith 22:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I added "bestest" in two spots after listening through the toon a second time, noting how distinct "greatest" sounds at the end of the full rap. However, I recorded both instances and after replaying them several times, I had to concede that he does say "greatest", so I reverted both of my edits. He just says "greatest" differently the first two times. -ReverendTed 02:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Before I noticed the controversy, I thought he said "bestest" at some point... but I'm not hearing it now. Just "greatest". --Jay (Gobble) 02:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Ditto that. I think we're psychologically set up to hear "bestest" if we're not paying close attention because everyone else in the toon says "the best choice." -ReverendTed 03:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

That's....actually a plausible theory. Oh, and ReverendTed, could you upload that recording somehow? Strong king

homsar smith 14:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I could, but I don't really know where would be good for that. Besides, if you watch through the toon once, you can play the full rap repeatedly at the end. -ReverendTed 01:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Likes to get what?

In the easter egg, during Coach Z's rap he says "my name's Coach Z and I likes to get..." This word following this is listed as "noice" here in the wiki, but listening to this line over and over, I find this highly unlikely as there is definitely a "t" sound at end. I suspect this may be "I likes to get moist", which although it doesn't match the "nice" theme, it does sound like something Coach Z might say. Also, despite the fact that the cd cover says "noice" he appears to have no problem with the word later in the song.

Don't forget to sign your comments. Anyway, I hear "noice", and I believe the "t" sound you're hearing is just hiss\feedback from the "s" sound. As for why he pronounces it differently, that's probably because he's trying to make it rhyme on the first occurrence, not because of his speech impediment. -ReverendTed 01:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I agree with the annony. I hear moist. I never heard nice(noice). It could only be Coach Z's accent, but I'm standing by moist.

DrPepper42

04:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's clearly "noice", for reasons of both context and rhyme scheme. --DorianGray 04:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's about being nice, "moist" makes no sense, not even as some joke. — Defender1031*Talk 04:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Moist? No. It's "noice", as a mispronunciation of "nice" Ivoj Nob 04:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I think Coach Z getting "moist" is entirely possible.. tough one.. I'll withhold judgement and wait for the DVD, hoping for better audio.

OptimisticFool 04:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Oprimistic-man, "noice" matches the caption in the easter egg, so I don't think it would be "moist". Ivoj Nob 04:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Right. And what I'm saying is that I can't hear it clearly enough to determine whether it is "moist" or "noice". I'm being objective, see? Which is why I am withholding judgement until I hear it with better sound quality. That's what's going to sell me. Until then, if consensus says "noice" it doesn't bother me one bit.

OptimisticFool 17:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I hear the "t", too...but...hey, what's this? It's the beat in the background that sounds like a "t" (kinda) that plays at the moment "noice" is over. Plus, as Ivoj Nob said, "noice" is what the album/single cover says. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 06:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I too think Coach Z getting moist is probable, but as a lyric I am both uninterested and unconvinced. "Noice", a Tree-Stooges-esqu variant of "nice", is more sensible in context. - Qermaq - (^T/C)

13:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I believe the point of the joke is that Coach Z is a poor lyricist and is trying to force a rhyme between the intended lyric "nice" and the other words, "choice" and "voice". -ReverendTed 16:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

{eats colons} Well, getting moist is in Coach Z's character, yet I still think it's "noice". Ivoj Nob^{(HAP-E*HOLIDAYS)} 17:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Character video

The KoT interrupts Coach Z in the middle of his rap in a similar manner to Homestar in his (Coach Z's) character video. Notable? 129.174.182.59 03:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Marzipan also interrupts Coach Z's freestyling in Fall Float Parade (on the grounds that it's "really annoying"). At the very least, I think it should be included in Coach Z's biography page. Something about how he likes rap, and the other characters don't like when he tries. --DorianGray 03:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Subject Line Puns

The other two "Nice Dad" emails had the subject lines "chum" and "role model", addressed to a shark (chum is shark bait) and a role-playing game addict. This notable? (I personally think that at least the "chum" pun should be explained; it's fairly obscure, methinks.) --Jay (Gobble) 21:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Being Nice or Being Mean?

In the Toons menu, the sbemail title is called Being Nice, rather than Being Mean...is it a goof-up? Or on purpose? --24.13.162.218 02:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know. i personally think it's a goof. Open Source Greg 15:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z gets Noice! Easter Egg

What's the deal? I know there's a hidden commentary (No Transcript, see Disc 6 discussion), it claims that the chalk drawing is done automatically and what about Gets Nice Easter Egg, is it Next + v + v + v + WSBhead + Enter or Again or Main or What?

Just do each one. Open Source Greg 15:58, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] gem_.exe

What does gem stand for? Could It be gay e mails? HELP.

No. It means "gem". It's an actual English word. And Homestar Runner cartoons have never been known to use homosexuality as an insult, much as Strong Bad will insult you for anything else imaginable. --Jay (Gobble) 03:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Comentary

I wanna do the comentary script for being mean. I realy do! If you don't want me to, PM me before it's too late. Nihaho 13 19:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Too late! I'm Finished. If you are a person who edits scrips or a gnome tell me what to edit on the talk page of my work ... After you read it of course. Nihaho 13 00:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

This is a Wiki. So long as you don't vandalize anything, you can work on anything you want. You can go ahead and put it on the page now if you like. If there are any problems, people will fix them. --Jay (Gobble) 00:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Swearing

In one of the Easter eggs, when the KoT is in the middle of the screen at the Classroom, you can change the image on the right-hand side of the chalkboard to a spear impaling him with the label "THUCK!" Is that swearing or not? If it is, then should we add it to the "Swears" article? --88.226.159.247 19:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

No. It's onomatopoeia. Lira (talk) 21:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh. I thought it sounded like the F-word. --95.5.20.94 00:16, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Now it's been added to Onomatopoeia. --Stux 13:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)