Editing Talk:Scroll Button Songs

== Norman vs. Normal ==

For the "S to the C, R O double L, my name is not Norman, but still I rock well!" rap, I always thought of it as "S to the C, R O double L, my name is not normal, but still I rock well!" If I'm the only one, then I'll shut up, but yeah. ~senor

:It's certainly Norman, because Norman Rockwell is a famous painter. It's a joke. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 15:28, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::Okay, thanks. :) {{unsigned|señor|17:00, 9 April 2005 (UTC)}}

:::It could also be a referance to those old [http://www.emeraldnuts.com emerald nuts] ads, where, in one, there are two guys yelling "I am Norman and I am great! I am Norman and I am also great! I'm a greater Norman then you are!" etc. etc. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== A long one ==

Is it me, or has the current rap been kept longer than the previous ones? -Kinsey

:Yes, it has. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

== Broken links ==

All the links to the sbemail raps on http://e2tl.playvectrex.com just come up with a "HTTP 404 Not Found" page.

These three links are the only ones that do work:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail_lappy.swf
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.swf
http://porplemontage.com/media/sbemail_raps/Scroll%20it.swf
[[User:The Tire|The Tire]] 23:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I already changed all of these over to my mirror, problem solved.
--Kit

== Two things ==

First, the previous scroll rap link (scroll buttons and the Lappy) actually gives the present one.

Second, that mention of the Coach Z/Strong Bad rap duet being a reference to [[rampage]] is highly doubtful.. considering [[rampage]] came way after.

-- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I know it would be hard now, but... ==

It would be cool if we had which emails the scroll button songs were active for, like for the second latest "119-130" or the latest "131-present."

Also, these shouldn't be called 'Email Raps,' they should be called 'Scroll Button Songs' or 'Scroll Button Raps' or something along those lines. [[User:señor|<font size=1>»</font>ß<font size=1>enit, known as señor«</font>]] 23:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== The newest Scroll Button Song ==

The newest scroll button song that appeared after email 131 is also the song that Marzipan sings in [[replacement]]. Strong Bad says it is the worst song ever, but apparently he uses it now. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Smoking crack ==

I don't believe that Coach Z is saying anything about smoking crack in the scroll button rap duet, I *think* he is saying then you must go crash, but I could be wrong.

:I definitly hear a "sh" at the end of Coach Z's rap...besides i doubt The Brothers would put such a drug reference, especially one encouraging drug use... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, he's saying crack.  Make no mistake.  For one thing, it rhymes with "attack."  But the absolute proof is the fact that the Chaps changed it so quickly.  Like, within a couple days.  I don't know the exact time frame - could have sworn the dates used to be printed on this page.

: I think someone found TBC explicitly saying that it's "smoke crack." But he wasn't saying "must" as in "you should do this," he was saying it as in "you probably already do." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::I'm just saying that if you listen to it with speakers on full tilt I hear coach z saying "crash"...then again it might just be Strong Bad begining to say "scroll"...but i still hear a soft "sh" rather than a hard "ck"... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I recommend some new speakers.

:Crack rhymes with attack. That's proof enough for me. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Crack=attack. That's definitley enüff prüff for me. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:44, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I always thought it was:
CZ:  And if you're tryin' to fade me then you must smoke grass!
SB:  Scroll buttons aww yeah like that heart attack.
I guess that doesn't really rhyme, but it's what it sounded like to me.

And as a side note, yes, they did not mean: "SMOKE IT!" They meant it as: "If you're making fun of me then obviosly you smoke something."
--[[User:Kit|Kit]]

crash is what I hear --[[User:Mrdude|jake]] 05:33, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:He definitely says "smoke crash," but I think that's just his accent acting up. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''


Sounds like 'grass' to me. 'smoke grass' .. it doesn't rhyme, but that's what it sounds like. marginally 'better' ^_^'

I hear a "sh" and a "ck" both at the same time. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:13, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Guys, if you have the DVD, you hear it clearly: it's "crack." 'Nuff said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Cut off ==

In the new "scroll buttons and random" rap, a sound clip of SB saying "Wha-" can be heard at the end. The sound clip is SB saying something else, but all we hear is "Wha-".
*I think that this has more to do with your flash player than it does the scroll button rap. Sometimes, (and I have no idea why), the sound doesn't cut off when it's supposed to. You probably heard the start of one of the random.bat noises. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 11:13, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Moving Suggestion ==

I think this should be moved to "Strong Bad Scroll Button Raps". It has more relevance. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 14:59, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Super Sam. --[[User:69.40.181.52|69.40.181.52]] 15:04, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't logged in. ''I'' agree with Super Sam --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 15:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well, I hear no objections, so I'll move it. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:35, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I don't like it, and there should be more of a consensus before a move like that. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 12:37, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:What is it called in the DVD? (If they call it something...) Anyway, I'm fine either way. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''

It would be nice to know why you object. (Some HSR themed username and Lapper) To me, Email Raps are the things Strong Bad says at the start of each email. Scroll Button Raps/Songs/Whatever are the things Strong Bad says on the menu page. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:53, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Update:''' Alright, following Joshua's suggestion, I looked at the DVD page. ([[strongbad_email.exe_Disc_One]]) It says this:

:<blockquote>Scroll Button Songs: A video featuring every scroll button rap up until the "S to the C" rap.</blockquote>

:I think that speaks for itself. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:58, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Yep. Scroll Button Rap. Any objections now? - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
:::For clarification - "Scroll Button Songs" is what it's called on the DVD. The "every scroll button rap" part was added by the wiki, saying what it was, but it's only called "Songs" on the DVD itself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I will move it back now. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:35, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Why? What's the problem now? When you object to something, you really should say why. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:00, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:*Unless I'm mistaken, his message was in response to the above discussion, and this was a comment stating that he was moving the page back to [[Strong Bad Email Raps]]. Which is were it is now. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 07:08, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I figured that. I want to know why he moved it back. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:05, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

*Oh, I see. I mis-read the discussion, and thought it was a decision reached by consensus. Looking over it again, I see your point. Disregard. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 11:10, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Alright. Now, unless I start getting some valid reasons why this should not be moved. "Scroll Button Songs" is the official name, as noted on [[strongbad_email.exe_Disc_One|this page]]. It's been almost a month. Reasons, or I'm moving it. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:Do it. Accuracy is best. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

:I'm moving it right now.

== Top H*R Listen button & Firefox ==

For most of my browsing I use firefox, and firefox gives you an interesting feature: it puts the site icons next to some of the links placed in this wiki (if you use firefox or netscape you'll know what i'm talking about, if you use IE or Opera you won't see anything).  For the longest time I thought this was a feature of the wiki -- that it automatically added these sprites into the HTML code.  I found out that it doesn't when I surfed this page.  Ok -- on to my point in this page.  If you surf this page with firefox, the first "Listen" button is shifted to the left because of the icon, and so it crossed the table boundaries, looking not-so-good!  IE and opera do not do this, as I mentioned earlier, and so they look fine and line up fine.  
:*Does anybody have an explanation as to why Firefox does this with this site
:*Does anyone have good suggestions as to making that table look good in both Firefox and IE (other than the one i thought of which was to make that column bigger).
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:I saw what you were talking about. all it needed is just a fixed width. I set it up to 70. looks good? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::Looks great!  Thanks!  It bothers me though that only certain users will see what we're talking about.  They probably thing we're crazy ;)... Ironic ain't it? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:12, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:By the way, it isn't Firefox inserting the icons. The Wiki does insert them by itself, but only certain browsers (i.e. Firefox) can see them. If you are on a different browser, and wondering what we're talking about, see [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Linknotes.png this image]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 17:33, 13 October 2005 (BST)

::Ahhh! Thank you! That clears things up a lot! If you don't mind, I'll post a [[User_talk:Lapper#Link_notes|link]] to the discussion being shown in the screenshot. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Yes, those icons are displayed using CSS3.  See the [http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/CR-css3-selectors-20011113/ W3C specs] for more information.  Oh, and in addition to Firefox/Mozilla/Seamonkey/Gecko etc., I pretty sure Safari supports them, but I don't have a Mac so I couldn't tell you for sure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes--Safari also supports them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Main page updates ==

When the song is updated, I think it should be listed as "New Scroll Button Song" Instead of rap, because they haven't been raps for the past few times anyway, and it will be more correct.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== why isn't there ==

a link to the (current) second scroll button song?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

the one that says: Scroll buttons and random, you can't handle 'em. Just the way I planned 'em. Everybody likes... you... friend.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:See below. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Audio / Video of other scroll button songs ==
I see no one got the swf of the other scroll button songs. I have a video of them in avi format (and the audio in mp3 format). Should I post them online so that they can be linked from here? [[User:DrWorm|DrWorm]]

:Hmm... I don't see any problem with that. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== HRWiki Mirror ==
Can we get HRWiki mirrors for every old scroll button song possible? Similar to the one featured in [[If I Ran the Camera]]? That way it'd be neater, more secure, and updated so people can listen to ones like the Rando song. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:[[If I Ran the Camera]] is kind of a special case in the fact that this is (or at least was at the time of creation) the only mirror for the toon. We don't want to start mirroring everything in our little wiki. I'm pretty sure our links to mirror websites are more than enough in this case. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
[http://home.comcast.net/~alanweiss3/dwedit/files/ifiranthecamera.html Original mirror of If I Ran the Camera.] So... that arguement isn't really true, as the HRWiki mirror came from that one. And I don't trust these mirror sites too much as they seem to have stopped updating. (So they might go offline at any moment, I think.) But I guess I'm fine with them. But what about the modern scroll button song that has no mirror? Are we going to make one for that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh you're right. Sorry about that. My bad. You make a pretty good case. Alright, I'm behind you, but you gotta get the vote of an admin too, to upload around a dozen toon mirrors. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

::Sure, I'll do it.  Who is up for making a list of links to the files here to make it easier for me?  I think the only one you'll have a hard time finding is the Norman Rockwell one.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemailnotnorman.html Normal Rockwell?] Or did you mean the Rando one? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

::::The Rando one, that's it.  Serves me right for trusting my memory and not checking the article.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Done.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== There's no lady...ing allowed? ==

So no one has a copy of the lady...ing scroll buttong song?! :( I'm trying to see if my any miracle I have a copy but I doubt that... Has anyone been saving the current songs? That way when they "become old" we have them ready for archiving? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:13, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:I found a copy all by myself and [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] gets no credit. Yay! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Can't anyone find ==

A link to "Scroll buttons and random, you can't handle 'em. Just the way I planned 'em. Everybody likes... you... friend."

well?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:The world is saved! I found the [[Cool Things|blue ooonnneeesss]]!!!! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Safari browser ==

<blockquote>As of June 10, 2006, users with Safari browsers can access an Easter egg: while Strong Bad is singing, switch to a different tab in the same window. Shortly after he finishes singing, Strong Bad will make a series of strange noises. If you switch back to his tab, he stops.</blockquote>
This "Easter egg" describes the random feature noises. Anyone else using the same browser experiance the same "Easter egg"? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
:You're right, the same thing happens to me.  I wonder if there are other cases where Flash does this. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== No SB and song during vacation ==

I think that the fact that Strong Bad's "Scroll buttons, what is UP?" quote should have ended upon the release of [[vacation]], and I find that Strong Bad's presence during that email is questionable. So why not replace the end date (which is the date before the release of [[invisibility]]) with the date ''before'' the release of vacation?

All I'm sayin' is, Strong Bad wasn't here in the vacation menu.

== Scrolling up high and down low ==

Okay, my last guess would be to provide an [[Wikipedia:Internet Archive|Internet Archive]] Wayback Machine copy of the last scroll button song. But until someone provides something to the mirror, this is all I have. And it's to listen to, not browse existing emails. [http://web.archive.org/web/20060823032022/http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html] --Don't try the random.bat on that archive, [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 17:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Willie Wonka==

The latest one sounds like that Willie Wonka song "If you want to view paradise, simply look around and do it." [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:Nah, I think it barely resemles that, but if you really think it does, you could STUFF it.  {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
::Nope, never, DELETED. [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]] 17:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==name'd==

i think this article needs a better name.--[[User:Dj teh homsar|Dj teh homsar]] 17:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

:What else can they be called.  Scroll Button Songs is exactly what they are.  They are also referenced by Strong Bad in [[replacement]].

== Ungh ==

That grunt at the end of the current (August 13, 2007) song reminds me a lot of Jimi Hendrix's style.  Does anyone also think so, and think it's notable enough? --[[User:Dandin1|Dandin1]] 01:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I think your right. I guess thats notable.

== Mirror Glitch ==

Every mirror starting with the [[highschool]] song lists [[portrait]] as the newest email. (As well as the 1 before that, but that's not a problem) Is this intentional? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
:And if it was intentional, why do the mirrors of these songs leave out the newest emails at their last time of use?  How did you remove those emails from the list?  What do Strong Bad's parents look like? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:19, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, in case you guys don't understand my posts, let me try to give an example.  I'll use the "I scroll it up high, you scroll it down low," song since it was the 1 being used when I 1st got into Sbemails.  If the mirror of that song is supposed to accurately reenact the menu from that era, it should have all the emails from [[some kinda robot]] to [[what I want]], but the list stops at [[portrait]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Can I at least get a, "There's nothing we can do about it so shut up"? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Why won't anybody answer my question already!? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:Clearly all the users on HRWiki hate you.
:(I'm joking, and I don't know the answer)[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The problem is the XML file that controls the list isn't being updated. I know how to fix it, but it'll be a bit before I have the time to get it all organized. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I just found out you would have to fix the "scoll buttons and random" song as well. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Can it be fixed by the end of the month? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:It's on my to-do list. Since it's not a critical error, and since I'm working on several other things both in real life and here at the wiki, it's not very high on the list. But it will get done. Keep your pants on. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

== Should I... ==

Should I upload OGG files of the scroll button songs and post links to them on this page? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

== Mash play on that jambox! ==

"The August 13th, 2007 song is the only one to include music, and the sound of the enter button is different."

After about the fifth time, I realized that might actually be the sound of hitting play on a tape player. In fact I'm fairly certain it is, since the enter key doesn't sound like that in the last couple emails. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 17:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Error in newest song? ==

With the song most recent song (Control your scroll, click and hold with scroll button), maybe it's just my computer screwing up, but Strong Bad always does that noise he makes when you press "random.bat". Has anyone else noticed this? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 17:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:Works fin in Firefox. [[User:King of wikis|King of wikis]] 18:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::Hmmm...maybe I was just imagining it. It's gone now. Seemed like it was there before...::shrug::. Oh well. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 02:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I just heard it several  times, myself.  It never happened before today...  weird?  [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Control your scrolls. Click and hold with scroll buttons! ==

It's the first one with music. Beat that! :P

== Oh, you are now scrollin' with the best! Scroll buttons put your mouse-clickin' finger to the test! ==

I thought that strong bad didn't know what a mouse is?
(In the email where they redesigned the no loafing sign, he called the mouse on the cheat's G5 "a plastic bar of soap")
[[User:Poopskin|Poopskin]] 12:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe he didn't know what a powermac mouse was? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:: i always thought the song went "oh you are now scrollin' with the best scroll buttons. put your mouse clickin' finger to the test" [[User:58.174.65.227|58.174.65.227]] 13:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Kitkorp ==

There are many archieved email menus on the kitkorp mirrors. I heard one that I didn't see on the article.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 22:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== S to the C ==

It's still accessable on the website: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.swf

== Quick changes ==

Why was [http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/20070813_sbemail.html this one] changed to [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html this one] so fast, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/20070122_sbemail_lappy.html this one] was changed to [http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/20070813_sbemail.html this one] after a '''LONG''' time?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)