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The Legend of King Bubsgonzola

From: unnatural
Posted on: 14:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Bubsgonzola's appearance mirrors the pre-boss cutscenes of the 3-D Zelda games perfectly: the boss appears, a title like "Parasitic Armored Arachnid: Queen Gohma" appears at the bottom of the screen in a two-line format, and then the boss roars.
• TBC have made numerous previous Zelda references.
• Zelda games have used similar panning

Arguments against:

• Too specific a comment. There's no Zelda boss that starts panning up from a giant pair of feet. It's more likely just a panning camera trick. The title doesn't match any of the Zelda boss titles either. If it said "Supreme King: Bubs" then maybe, but it doesn't, so it's not.
• Bubs' entrance may have indeed been inspired by those of Zelda bosses, but if TBC had intended for viewers to identify it as such, I think they would have made it more obvious.
• This sort of intro isn't even exclusive to Ocarina of Time. Brave Fencer Musashi (Playstation) also does the same thing before boss battles. Skies of Arcadia (Dreamcast/Gamecube) introduces major villains/new airships in a very similar manner. And I've heard Wild Arms 2 (Playstation) introduces bosses in a similar way...

Additional comments:

• Even if this is declined, the fact will remain on the talk page, which I think will be a good outcome — it's an interesting connection and a possible inspiration, but I don't think it's clear enough to be in the main article.

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Bubzilla

From: unnatural
Posted on: 13:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• The reference to Godzilla is already on the King Bubsgonzola Supreme page.

Arguments against:

Additional comments:

• It is possible that it could refer to Strong Bad's idea that Bubs came out of the water.
• May just be a reference to Japanese monster flicks in general
• Needs to be more specific, as it may actually relate to the ending of the movie King Kong vs. Godzilla.
• Someone already added this in there. Still, their description was a lot more specific, so I think it looks good as is.
• Just a note: there were two similar facts that I removed from the article — if these are valid, should the fact at hand be reworded to encompass the scope of the reference?
  • The end where King Bubsgonzola walks out to sea is a homage to the end scene of King Kong vs. Godzilla where Kong swims out to sea.
  • It might also be a homage to the end scene of Godzilla vs. Gigan, in which Godzilla and Anguirus swim back to Monster Island, or Godzilla vs. Biollante, which ends with Godzilla swimming back out to see. So does Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster, and probably most other Godzilla films.

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Weeee!

From: unnatural
Posted on: 4:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• If Homestar Runner, thinking he's an ant, talking about chocolate cake is supposedly an inside reference, then this definitely is.

Arguments against:

• Matt Chapman does the voices for both Strong Bad and Gunhaver in a very similar way. It's mere coincidence that they sound alike.
• If anything, it's more similar to What's Her Face in Teen Girl Squad Issue 10, though I don't think that's a reference either.
• Besides, Gunhaver says it with a different tone.
• People say "Weee" all the time when they're having fun, whether they're on the swing, going down a slide or being flushed down the toilet. It's not an inside reference.
• I don't think the two relate to each other properly.

Additional comments:

• How could "weee" be an inside reference? The Brothers Chaps didn't invent the word. If they did, then it might possibly be an inside reference even though it's only one word. Regardless, that isn't the case.

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