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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

STUFF'd Facts

mile

Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

  • I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
  • Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay (Gobble) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
  • COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

The House That Gave Sucky Treats

Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4

  • Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.

  • Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
  • Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
    • Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
    • The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -Svelt
  • Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

dangeresque 3

So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

  • Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
  • Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

  • Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay (Gobble) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
      • Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay (Gobble) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay (Gobble) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
      • Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

Experimental Film

The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

  • Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
  • Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second both the vote and the question. --Jay (Gobble) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay (Gobble) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

sisters

Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

  • Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
        • I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
          • Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
  • Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
    • The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
      • I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
        • It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
          • Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

Homestar's Website

World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

  • Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • ...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

boring (really)

102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

  • Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip TC 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
    • Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
  • Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

  • Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.
  • Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay (Gobble) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay (Gobble) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
    • Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master

Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

  • Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- [[User:tomst
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