User talk:Broncotroll
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[edit] RIP: The Some Links to Help You Get Started Bot
Here lies the bot
Deleted 3/12/13
Some two years after I joined
I pine for you!
[edit] Weclome!
Hey there, Bronco! I'm guessing your name is from Bronco Trolleys? Man, I'd almost forgotten that thing even existed. Anyways, I notice you were testing things out on the guitar page... please use HRWiki:Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will normally be reverted quickly. Also, check out the Help:Editing page if you would like to learn more about contributing to the wiki. Thanks, and keep on tranglin'. --phlip TC 13:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Deleting files
Recently you said something about wanting to delete a file you've uploaded. You actually can't do that. What you can do is ask for it to be deleted by using the {{delete}} template, which will add a box to the page that says the page should be deleted. Hopefully a sysop (i.e. a user who can delete pages) will notice it and delete it for you. For example, you might try writing "{{delete|failed attempt for use in user page}}" in addition to the description. Hope that helps. The Knights Who Say Ni 20:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- Why thank you, kind sir! (ONION BUBSSS!!! ONION BUBS!!) Unfortunately, I also don't know how respond properly so I'm just editing my own talk page. These kids and their fangled HTML codes and fancy wireless phones! I clicked the delete template page and it says it is pending deletion. The irony! <<(Sorry about the its there.)
- On this wiki, responding properly is generally done on the same talk page so as to keep all the relevant discussion in the same place. So you got that much right. Each further response is generally done by adding a colon to the beginning of your response, which indents it. (adding two colons indents it twice, etc.) And in order to sign your talk post, just type ~~~~ to make your signature and the time appear. And every template page has an example of itself on the page so you know what it looks like. The Knights Who Say Ni 22:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- is one colon alright or do I need to add indents consecutively?
- Like this? As for signature, --BroncoTroll☺ I was wondering how to change font size.
- Like that. We have a limit of twenty pixels in height per customized signature, so changing font size is generally discouraged. You can change the font style though, by adding "font-family:font;" into the span tag. If you want a wider font, you can replace the red text with that font's name. The Knights Who Say Ni 03:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- Like I said, it can only be 20 pixels tall. Here's a box to tell you how big your signature can be: and here is a visual example of how to use it. It also has to be a text version of your user name, so I'm sorry to tell you, but you can't use the newly created picture of your name in your signature. Also, you've uploaded lots of personal images in the past few days. Per our standards, you're only allowed to keep three of them, and that's if one of them is included in your signature. It keeps things from getting out of hand. Thanks for understanding. The Knights Who Say Ni 22:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Ahh, I was just about to scale it down to 20 px. With text I will only have 3 personal images, as others are unused/ non personal (One on my user page, and two in the signature).
- Like I said, it can only be 20 pixels tall. Here's a box to tell you how big your signature can be: and here is a visual example of how to use it. It also has to be a text version of your user name, so I'm sorry to tell you, but you can't use the newly created picture of your name in your signature. Also, you've uploaded lots of personal images in the past few days. Per our standards, you're only allowed to keep three of them, and that's if one of them is included in your signature. It keeps things from getting out of hand. Thanks for understanding. The Knights Who Say Ni 22:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Like that. We have a limit of twenty pixels in height per customized signature, so changing font size is generally discouraged. You can change the font style though, by adding "font-family:font;" into the span tag. If you want a wider font, you can replace the red text with that font's name. The Knights Who Say Ni 03:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- Like this? As for signature, --BroncoTroll☺ I was wondering how to change font size.
[edit] Signature
Hey there Broncotroll, I notice that your custom signature violates a few of the policies about signatures. First of all, "Your signature must include a text version of your username, with a link to your user page." Yours appears to lack the link. Secondly, "A background other than white is strongly discouraged, and any such background must be confined to the immediate text area. Borders or blinking (or anything else that gives undue salience to a signature) are not allowed". To me, the stark contrast of the black background gives your signature undue salience. Hope that helps! — Defender1031*Talk 02:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Right so I'm currently working on those links (I'm not very good at html) and is there anyway the links don't turn my words blue? I mean, I know there is, but how? Thanks! As for the unique salience, I know I'm bending the rules a bit but I was hoping it would work as it wasn't explicitly forbidden- and I'm going for a very specific 1986 Loz File look. --BroncoTroll☺ 02:53, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- I can help you out not making them blue if you want. Also, links won't work on images. About the look, that determination is not mine alone to make. (Whisperingly, I personally appreciate the look you're going for.) — Defender1031*Talk 03:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- (Whisperingly) Thanks. Here's the coding (not here anymore) which must be glitchy cause both links appear on the sig page while only one random one appears when I insert my signature on a page. I tried to look at the code for your signature as reference, but it looked like the quadratic formula exploded. --BroncoTroll☺ 03:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! It does work perfectly on the sig page, but only one link works at a time when it's used on other pages (it might just be on my operating system). --BroncoTroll☺ 03:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, when using a link on the page it links to, the link won't work. Meaning, if you use the sig on this page, your talk page link won't work, because this is already your talk page. Likewise, using it on your user page will make the user page link not work. Anywhere else, both links will work. As for how to include your sig and timestamp without having to type it manually, type four tildes (~~~~). Make sure that in your preferences, the "signature" field says "{{User:Broncotroll/sig}}" and that the "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" checkbox is selected to ensure that it uses your custom signature properly. Hope that helps! — Defender1031*Talk 03:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ahah! It'all makes sense now! That does help, I was wondering why the four tilde shortcut didn't work before. Test drive! --BroncoTroll☺ 03:39, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hooray! You did it! — Defender1031*Talk 03:40, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ahah! It'all makes sense now! That does help, I was wondering why the four tilde shortcut didn't work before. Test drive! --BroncoTroll☺ 03:39, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, when using a link on the page it links to, the link won't work. Meaning, if you use the sig on this page, your talk page link won't work, because this is already your talk page. Likewise, using it on your user page will make the user page link not work. Anywhere else, both links will work. As for how to include your sig and timestamp without having to type it manually, type four tildes (~~~~). Make sure that in your preferences, the "signature" field says "{{User:Broncotroll/sig}}" and that the "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" checkbox is selected to ensure that it uses your custom signature properly. Hope that helps! — Defender1031*Talk 03:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! It does work perfectly on the sig page, but only one link works at a time when it's used on other pages (it might just be on my operating system). --BroncoTroll☺ 03:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- (Whisperingly) Thanks. Here's the coding (not here anymore) which must be glitchy cause both links appear on the sig page while only one random one appears when I insert my signature on a page. I tried to look at the code for your signature as reference, but it looked like the quadratic formula exploded. --BroncoTroll☺ 03:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- I can help you out not making them blue if you want. Also, links won't work on images. About the look, that determination is not mine alone to make. (Whisperingly, I personally appreciate the look you're going for.) — Defender1031*Talk 03:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
An aside, yes. I think my sig is probably the most confusing syntax on the entire wiki. It's because of the gradient and each character needing its own color code plus the fact that it's set up to automatically adjust for various holidays. Many have come before you trying to understand the mystery that is my signature and failed, and many will come after. Or... maybe not. But still, yeah, it's quite a piece of work. — Defender1031*Talk 03:43, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- HAH! An excuse to cut back on colons! I'll take it! I'll take twelve! Wow, I must not usually reference hr that much. It must be the wiki that brings it outta me. Anyway, yeah it looks like general relativity or something. Except in general relativity time slows down when closer to a black hole...- and in your signature, it slows down when, well, reading your signature. --BroncoTroll☺ 03:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- I took the liberty of fixing the "wacky fonts" for you. It should now look normal even on your user page and here. — Defender1031*Talk 04:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- HAH! An excuse to cut back on colons! I'll take it! I'll take twelve! Wow, I must not usually reference hr that much. It must be the wiki that brings it outta me. Anyway, yeah it looks like general relativity or something. Except in general relativity time slows down when closer to a black hole...- and in your signature, it slows down when, well, reading your signature. --BroncoTroll☺ 03:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
[edit] This again
Your recent change to your signature has made it all but unreadable. You need to change your background color to something that contrasts with the text. In fact, you need to remove the background color altogether and just leave it white. — It's dot com 21:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Oh noio stuff
Do you even know about the oh noio and Bubble?
- Yeah, no. I just meant I was freakin' out. Apparently I'm out of da loop. Apparently is the wrong word, I was always out of the loop, I'm like past the solar wind of the loop. Or past the Observable Loopaverse. --BroncoTroll☺ 01:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Adding a new thread on a talk page
Hey, here's a tip. To start a new thread on a talk page, just press the plus [ + ] button up there at the top of the page in between the edit and history buttons. Keep on tranglin'. — It's dot com 21:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Ohhh... magical...
Woh. This is like an email interface. Thanks, dot com! ...How did you know I was typing it in manually? --BroncoTroll☺ 21:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Whoa indeed. I could tell because your formatting was a little off from the automatic formatting the system uses, and because the section linker showed the previous section. — It's dot com 21:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
[edit] User Account
Thanks for recommending It's dot mom, I now have a user account. However, I will not be able to do anything with it for a few days, my Grandma just got out of the hospital (she had her appendix removed). So I won't be able to do anything big for a while. Jdaniels15/ToaJuaraevo01/65.33.237.1 19:05, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Hello! And your Page
Hi Broncotroll,
First off, sorry you're feeling "inactive". All I can say is hang in there, cheer up, things get more "active" with time! Also regarding your page: the reason it broke was that you deleted the closing brackets "|}
" from your user label thingy-magigs. Just add it to the bottom of the last one (and perhaps add an invisicomment above it to remind you not to delete it) and that will do the trick! Good luck! And keep on tranglin'
--Stux 16:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Awww, thanks Stux. You're great. I'm just having a mid-mid-life crisis of sorts. You know, college. The human condition. It's rough.
[edit] Recent vandalism
Hey Broncotroll, welcome back! I'm not sure if I should say this, but I didn't look at the content of the latest vandalism on your page until after I had reverted it. I acted on the edits that the vandal had made a few minutes before and the rule that says you have to be logged in to edit your user page. Now that I have looked at it, I don't think I would make that explicit content readily available with one click. I'm not gonna make you remove it; I'm just gonna say that it might be a good idea. The Knights Who Say Ni 03:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll delete it. ("Make me" remove it?) It was just a status symbol anyway—how many times I've been vandalized.
I didn't think it was unusually obscene for vandalism, I've seen much worse. And I don't mind people editing my userpage as long they are being constructive and/or fixing my mistakes. --BroncoTroll☺
[edit] GIF thumbnails
GIF thumbnails don't work. You put them in right, it just doesn't work. Google it. It's a whole thing with the MediaWiki software. Google it if you care to read all about it. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 04:52, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, we're working on that. They actually do work with MediaWiki and have for a while on our site, but something got borked about three years ago and we just now noticed because animated gifs are relatively rare for our wiki. We've manually fixed the ones already on @StrongBadActual. We're working on a permanent fix, but in the meantime we'll manually fix any others we come across, so feel free to upload them and use them in articles. We have a test wiki and they work just fine there, so at the very least they'll be fine once we upgrade MediaWiki versions, which should happen someday, probably. — It's dot com 06:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
[edit] Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday Broncotroll! Welcome to the stage of life called adulthood: where every year you miss childhood more and more... ^_^; But in all seriousness, enjoy your birthday :) --Stux 16:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Quick Dropdown thingy
Heyo! Just want to tell you real quick to please use the columns for Summary and Licensing and add your licensing to pictures that you upload. Thanks! - Catjaz63 19:30, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hey again! Don't forget to use columns on Talk pages too for futureproofing in the case of more than one discussion. - Catjaz63 00:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Greetings
Regarding my recent edit to Singular Instead of Plural, I didn't mean to dismiss your inclusion of "I'm gonna go... place" in different town. I mainly removed it because the system wasn't letting me revert the change, so I had to do a bulk revert. It's kind of hard to tell what he might have meant given he was actively admitting that his imagination was busted, but I always thought he was talking about going to one place. You may be on to something though, since "I'm gonna go places" is a grammatically correct sentence. The Knights Who Say Ni 06:05, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Right. But then why did you include the "some people wears part"? That's plural. --BroncoTroll☺ 06:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- But I understand what you mean. If he said "I'm going to go... place" like as a cop out to get away. Regardless, it would be grammatically incorrect even if he intended it that way. --BroncoTroll☺ 06:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- My edit summary in the link above referred to "wear", not "place". The only conjugation that turns it to "wears" is the third person singular. (edit conflict'd) I'm not disputing that it's a grammatically incorrect sentence. Just that that being the case wouldn't directly warrant inclusion on a page that focuses on one specific type of grammatical error. The Knights Who Say Ni 06:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's this type of grammatical error. This exact type. --BroncoTroll☺ 06:20, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's only this exact type if Strong Bad actually meant "I'm gonna go places". If he meant "I'm gonna go some place", it's not. The Knights Who Say Ni 06:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- You can say the same about many of the other examples, "And it sold like hotcake!" could have been "and it sold like a hotcake"! I do get your point though, since "go some place" is more likely to be said in this scenario than "go places". It's conjecture though. Subjective. Maybe ask the talk page? --BroncoTroll☺ 06:29, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's only this exact type if Strong Bad actually meant "I'm gonna go places". If he meant "I'm gonna go some place", it's not. The Knights Who Say Ni 06:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's this type of grammatical error. This exact type. --BroncoTroll☺ 06:20, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
[edit] "Yelling at you"
Hey there Broncotroll, I've noticed a couple of times where you referred to me "yelling at you". It's hard to convey tone and emotion over text-only communication such as this wiki, but I wanted to leave a note here to try to let you know that my intention has never been to yell. Often my edit summaries will be somewhat terse, usually because there's a limited space in which to type them, but in no way does that mean that I'm yelling. I really bear no hostility toward you whatsoever. I may revert your edits and I may not always agree with you, but that doesn't mean that I won't treat you with the respect you deserve. And in general, I think you tend to do mostly good work around here. Hope that clears it up. — Defender1031*Talk 13:53, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think you're yelling, I just noticed that you were closely following (and reverting) many of my edits last night and it made me a little self edit conscious. Thanks Defender, that means a lot. You did 50% of the editing during the hiatus while everyone else had given up, and I have a lot of respect for you. Your pal,
--BroncoTroll☺ 15:57, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I follow pretty much ALL edits. You just happen to be making a lot of them (not a bad thing) :) — Defender1031*Talk 17:07, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- In addition, the general rule here is that if someone reverts you, especially on a long-standing article, you take it to the talk page rather than edit warring. Especially when the person who reverted you already took it to the talk page, you should not put your edit back in place until the conversation is concluded. — Defender1031*Talk 17:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I follow pretty much ALL edits. You just happen to be making a lot of them (not a bad thing) :) — Defender1031*Talk 17:07, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Wiki Etiquette
Hey there Broncotroll, I wanted to come here to leave you a message about some of the general wiki etiquette that we tend to prefer around here. Much of your recent editing has been difficult to navigate because of this, and I was hoping to give you some pointers to make it easier for everyone in the future. So here we go.
- Taking on large projects without prior discussion should be avoided. — Examples include the wide sweeping edits you've been making to the pluralization articles, as well as the glossary. The wiki doesn't have to be perfect right this second. If you see minor things which need fixing, spelling errors, a fun fact worth adding, etc. go ahead and add it. If, on the other hand, you think something is inconsistent and needs a major overhaul, please bring it up on the talk page first and wait for consensus before making broad sweeping changes that are not guaranteed to be agreed with by everyone and leaving a mess of edits for people to sort through some of which may be good, but many of which will need reverting. Especially when you have ALREADY brought up a topic on the talk page, please wait for responses before launching into a major overhaul. Which brings me to my next piece of advice.
- When you leave a talk page post, give people some time to respond before becoming frantic. — For example these 8 posts, all by you, were made in the span of less than 5 hours. Some people have jobs. Some people, as you appear to already have realized, are in different timezones. The remaining active wiki users are not on the wiki 24/7. Give it a couple of days before assuming no one will see or respond to your talk post.
- Overall, try to be a team player. — The wiki is a team effort, and will be better overall if we discuss, analyze, and come to a consensus first, rather than each trying to do our own thing and ending up stepping on each others' toes.
Hope that helps! — Defender1031*Talk 20:03, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- You're right. I have been noticing I've gotten a little manic with my editing. --BroncoTroll☺ 00:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- Though I do wish people would respond. -_- --BroncoTroll☺ 00:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've been planning to respond. It takes time to filter through so many talk posts at once, understand what you're saying in all of them, try to keep track of it all, and formulate a response to each point. You've got a gift which is a heck of a lot of creative energy. You've also got a curse, which is a heck of a lot of creative energy. You gotta give the rest of us a chance to keep up. :) — Defender1031*Talk 00:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- That's incredibly sweet of you to say, thanks :) --BroncoTroll☺ 00:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- Whew... that took a while. I finally managed to respond to (I hope) all of your points on Talk:Plural Instead of Singular and Talk:Glossary. I hope you'll try to keep what I said in mind to make it a little easier in the future. Oh, and you're welcome. — Defender1031*Talk 01:16, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- BroncoTroll - On that note, there have been times recently when I've delayed responding until I was sure you were through so I wouldn't get edit conflict'd. The Knights Who Say Ni 23:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Whew... that took a while. I finally managed to respond to (I hope) all of your points on Talk:Plural Instead of Singular and Talk:Glossary. I hope you'll try to keep what I said in mind to make it a little easier in the future. Oh, and you're welcome. — Defender1031*Talk 01:16, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- That's incredibly sweet of you to say, thanks :) --BroncoTroll☺ 00:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've been planning to respond. It takes time to filter through so many talk posts at once, understand what you're saying in all of them, try to keep track of it all, and formulate a response to each point. You've got a gift which is a heck of a lot of creative energy. You've also got a curse, which is a heck of a lot of creative energy. You gotta give the rest of us a chance to keep up. :) — Defender1031*Talk 00:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- One thing I'm noticing is that you're adding an opinion to a tbd page and proceeding to remove the tbd template. This is not recommended because it effectively means you're trying to close the discussion. I can tell that you want to get things done, but this goes against all three of DeFender's points earlier in this section (probably the last two more so than the first). If the discussion were closed right after your post, you're not giving anyone a chance to respond, which goes against the second point, and if the discussion were closed, your post would always be last, which is a form of monopolizing the system, which goes against the third point. And you're doing a lot of it right now (I'm led to believe that you're using the Category:Articles for Discussion list), which could be considered taking on a fairly large project (although you could argue there was prior discussion hence the articles' inclusion in that category in the first place). Several of them have an established consensus to keep, so it was a good thing that you brought that back to our attention. However, the articles that don't have consensus to keep, even if they have consensus to delete, should not have the discussion closed until action is taken regarding keep or delete. Thanks for using your creative energy. The Knights Who Say Ni 23:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- I just add opinions to things I agree with, it had nothing to do with closing the conversation. It usually had to do with the fact that several other people agreed and/or that the page hadn't been discussed in over five years, which defeats the purpose of the template. I was just annoyed by the sheer amount of wikimaintainance templates which haven't been resolved. And referencing "my creative energy" feels condescending. I want to feel like I'm doing something productive, not like I'm being "creative". --BroncoTroll☺ 00:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't mean to be condescending; I was just taking what DeFender said earlier. And I'm sorry you took it differently than when he said it. Either way, just because the discussion hasn't seen any action in five years doesn't mean it shouldn't see any anymore. Like I said (which I guess I didn't say directly) it's okay that you took them off of the ones that had an established consensus to keep. The Knights Who Say Ni 00:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I think what I meant to say instead of closing the discussion was that removing the tbd template takes the (for lack of a better word) recognition off of those pages that we need to keep an eye on. And even if it's not a very watchful eye, at least they are all kept in one place until such time as we do need them. The Knights Who Say Ni 02:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I get that, but when ninety articles have the template there's a problem. --BroncoTroll☺ 02:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, and that problem is lack of sufficiently active userbase. Not going to be solved by having just a couple of us taking over the entire operation. If those templates need to be there, then they should stay until there's consensus, no matter how long that takes. — Defender1031*Talk 05:16, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I get that, but when ninety articles have the template there's a problem. --BroncoTroll☺ 02:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I think what I meant to say instead of closing the discussion was that removing the tbd template takes the (for lack of a better word) recognition off of those pages that we need to keep an eye on. And even if it's not a very watchful eye, at least they are all kept in one place until such time as we do need them. The Knights Who Say Ni 02:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't mean to be condescending; I was just taking what DeFender said earlier. And I'm sorry you took it differently than when he said it. Either way, just because the discussion hasn't seen any action in five years doesn't mean it shouldn't see any anymore. Like I said (which I guess I didn't say directly) it's okay that you took them off of the ones that had an established consensus to keep. The Knights Who Say Ni 00:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I just add opinions to things I agree with, it had nothing to do with closing the conversation. It usually had to do with the fact that several other people agreed and/or that the page hadn't been discussed in over five years, which defeats the purpose of the template. I was just annoyed by the sheer amount of wikimaintainance templates which haven't been resolved. And referencing "my creative energy" feels condescending. I want to feel like I'm doing something productive, not like I'm being "creative". --BroncoTroll☺ 00:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
I figured that three "delete" votes in a row meant it would be good to add the "delete" template, like with Alabama. --BroncoTroll☺ 00:05, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict'd) I don't think I said anything about incorrectly adding a delete template. You're doing good. The Knights Who Say Ni 00:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks. And I'm sorry I lashed out at you. It kind of bothered me a little when Defender said it, but only because in both cases it seems like a backhanded compliment. Probably just me projecting my promblems. --BroncoTroll☺ 01:18, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- It was supposed to be a fronthanded compliment which also pointed out that the rest of us have a hard time keeping up... — Defender1031*Talk 05:16, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Just a friendly reminder of the above, this series of edits falls under the category of "tons of talk posts at once" — Defender1031*Talk 20:24, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- It was supposed to be a fronthanded compliment which also pointed out that the rest of us have a hard time keeping up... — Defender1031*Talk 05:16, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks. And I'm sorry I lashed out at you. It kind of bothered me a little when Defender said it, but only because in both cases it seems like a backhanded compliment. Probably just me projecting my promblems. --BroncoTroll☺ 01:18, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Image tags
Just a quick reminder, when you upload images, please tag the image with the appropriate license from the menu. (In the case of screenshots from the site, it's the web screenhot one.) — Defender1031*Talk 05:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion Focus
Hey Broncotroll, it's me again. I wanted to point out another thing I noticed which is that it's best to try to keep the focus of talk page conversations limited to the subject at hand. If you have ideas for unrelated stuff, that's great, (like I said, you have a lot of creative energy) but it's probably best to bring those ideas up in a more appropriate place rather than sidetracking an unrelated thread. Anyway, keep up the great work! — Defender1031*Talk 09:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ugh, I feel like my work has been pretty sloppy. Thanks though. :) --BroncoTroll☺ 09:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Don't be so hard on yourself. You're learning. I'm here to teach. As long as you're willing to learn and keep improving, which you are and you are, I don't see a problem with this. Besides, the wiki's seem a lot of activity lately thanks to you. A lot of articles have been moved forward and seen progress because of your creative energy. That says something about you. — Defender1031*Talk 09:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks again. You're a real internet pal. But in all seriously, I've been kind of depressed lately (as I am most summers) and I can't convey enough how awesome everyone is here. --BroncoTroll☺ 10:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- I hear ya, that's rough. Don't let the heat get ya too down. Go buy yerself a dusty old book, or a baloney sammich or something. Basically, hang in there. — Defender1031*Talk 10:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks again. You're a real internet pal. But in all seriously, I've been kind of depressed lately (as I am most summers) and I can't convey enough how awesome everyone is here. --BroncoTroll☺ 10:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Don't be so hard on yourself. You're learning. I'm here to teach. As long as you're willing to learn and keep improving, which you are and you are, I don't see a problem with this. Besides, the wiki's seem a lot of activity lately thanks to you. A lot of articles have been moved forward and seen progress because of your creative energy. That says something about you. — Defender1031*Talk 09:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Image Cropping
So... I hate to do another one of these, because I feel like I've been correcting you a lot and I don't want to make you feel like I think you're doing everything wrong (because I don't think that). That having been said... I did notice one more little thing, which is that many of the images you've uploaded are leaving parts of the black border in the image. If you take a look at the wiki's standards for screenshots, you'll notice that it mentions:
Most toons are framed by a border with rounded edges. When taking a full-sized screenshot, cropping the frame of the toon will leave rounded black regions in each corner. To remove these, replace each black corner with the color of the nearby part of the image (for the most part, those regions are monochromatic). This method is preferred to merely cropping the frame so that the black corners are out of image, since this latter approach omits some of the information in the scene.
Basically, the best way to take a screenshot is to open it in mspaint or an equivalent image editor and then zoom in so that you can crop the pixels precisely to the edge of the frame, and then go around to the four corners of the image and use the color selector to get the color that the rounded black parts are surrounded by, and use the bucket to paint them with the proper color. It would be very helpful if you could do that in the future. It would be extra-super helpful if you could do that with the images you've already uploaded as well. Thanks. — Defender1031*Talk 10:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- I figured other people would do that, I just wanted to get images in there since it's better than nothing. I'll try it though.--BroncoTroll☺ 20:56, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ugh, I tried to crop the black out but it didn't upload correctly. --BroncoTroll☺ 22:23, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Nevermind, it worked, just took a while to update I guess. --BroncoTroll☺ 01:22, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Wow, you're fast. As for things taking a while to upload, mediawiki has this thing where the most recent version of a file uploaded is always at the same URL. This ends up causing browser cache issues, so people may still end up seeing an older version of the picture for a while. It doesn't mean it took a while to upload or didn't upload correctly, it just means your browser's cache is out of date. Anyway, that's just a minor point. I see you've corrected a whole bunch of images like this. I'm especially impressed with your description of how you handled File:datingprolif.png. I'm not sure I would even have thought of it! Great jorb! — Defender1031*Talk 03:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks!!! Still a few more Title Cards to do though. --BroncoTroll☺ 03:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, and clearing my cache worked! Thanks computer genius man!!! --BroncoTroll☺ 03:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Anytime, BronkyTronk! — Defender1031*Talk 03:58, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've been waiting for years for some one to call me "Broncontrolla" but no one has. --BroncoTroll☺ 04:20, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Dang, that's a good one! — Defender1031*Talk 04:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've been waiting for years for some one to call me "Broncontrolla" but no one has. --BroncoTroll☺ 04:20, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Anytime, BronkyTronk! — Defender1031*Talk 03:58, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, and clearing my cache worked! Thanks computer genius man!!! --BroncoTroll☺ 03:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks!!! Still a few more Title Cards to do though. --BroncoTroll☺ 03:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Wow, you're fast. As for things taking a while to upload, mediawiki has this thing where the most recent version of a file uploaded is always at the same URL. This ends up causing browser cache issues, so people may still end up seeing an older version of the picture for a while. It doesn't mean it took a while to upload or didn't upload correctly, it just means your browser's cache is out of date. Anyway, that's just a minor point. I see you've corrected a whole bunch of images like this. I'm especially impressed with your description of how you handled File:datingprolif.png. I'm not sure I would even have thought of it! Great jorb! — Defender1031*Talk 03:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Nevermind, it worked, just took a while to update I guess. --BroncoTroll☺ 01:22, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ugh, I tried to crop the black out but it didn't upload correctly. --BroncoTroll☺ 22:23, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Concerning the new faces you uploaded
I don't have anything against them, but what page do you intend to use them for? - Catjaz63 19:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- I was thinking it would be interesting to have a bit on his facial expressions, and or the permutations/combinations thereof. On the homestar page. --BroncoTroll☺ 19:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Removing templatos
Heyo! It seems that when removing templates, you appear to leave blank space. If you could, please make sure there are no spaces at the top of articles or talk pages. DeFendm'n has been removing these spaces behind you, so I think he would probably appreciate it if you delete the spaces. Thanks! - Catjaz63 18:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding Deleting Articles
I've happened to notice you're quick on the draw to label "unnecessary" articles with the speedy delete template (and sometimes add the "Deleted Talk" template for talk pages). The correct process for main articles though is to use the "To Be Discussed" template (and "Talk To Be Discussed" for talk pages). Even if it's a slow process due to lack of overall wiki activity, it's supposed to give people time to talk and discuss an article's quality and only when most people agree that an article can't be saved, then an admin or a user with mod privileges can delete the article and slap "Deleted Talk" on the talk page.
Remember {{tbd}} for articles and {{ttbd}} for article talk pages that should have a discussion about article quality. I hope this helps. — Ngamer01 16:19, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Every article I've deleted is already up for discussion, and my deletions are all vetted usually before if not after I add the delete template. You're not giving me enough credit. --BroncoTroll☺ 17:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, the only real mark for deletion that I think was premature was Sam and Max. The only person who was for the deletion was Broncotroll herself. Most of her other markings were done with other people agreeing on the talk page. There's such a small amount of active editors here that I don't think we should be expecting any more than three people to comment on a deletion. - Catjaz63 20:22, 6 September 2015 (UTC)- I put Sam and Max up for deletion? I didn't mean to. It's the only one with legitimate references. --BroncoTroll☺ 04:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- I just looked, never put it up for deletion. --BroncoTroll☺ 04:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- I know Catjaz striked this out, but unlike other H*R Wiki projects like the former Featured Articles project that went by a time limit and thus was fine with minimal consensus, article deletions don't have a time limit. Sure for matters where articles are voted to be moved to a new name or merged into similar articles, users can handle that themselves by redirecting/merging + deleted talk after a sufficient period of time, but there is no hurry to nuke an article voted to be deleted outright (unless it's obvious spam/vandalism).
- I just looked, never put it up for deletion. --BroncoTroll☺ 04:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- I put Sam and Max up for deletion? I didn't mean to. It's the only one with legitimate references. --BroncoTroll☺ 04:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- You can leave the To Be Discussed templates up and an admin will deal with discussed articles when one of them feels like doing some work in the Articles for Discussion category. Sure wiki activity will be slow, discussions might be slow to happen if at all, but it's fair to give at least some time for discussions to take place. Bronco, you do good work here, but I figured I could offer advice on the process of Articles of Discussion (and to help make the admins' jobs easier in logging what happened with each discussed article). — Ngamer01 14:56, 7 September 2015 (UTC)