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[edit] Discussions

[edit] Allrighty Then

My mistake. -- The Real Zajac 17:35, 3 May 2005 (PDT)

It ain't nothin' but a thang. :) →FireBird

[edit] Thanks for your help:)

thanks for the editing tips for Rock opra visials i was able to add a line! (i was new at the time) --djm1791 07:57, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Your welcome. →FireBird
  • dude you have been a load of help tanks --djm1791 06:20, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Just trying to help out. →FireBird

[edit] Sub-Pages

Hi Fire. I remember reading somewhere quite some time ago, (I think it was on your talk page), that Sub-Pages aren't allowed. Has this policy been changed, or did you get special permission? I'm just curious as to weather or no I too can create Sub-Pages. Thanks. Thunderbird 18:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Yessir, certain subpages are allowed, such as archiving your talk page. HRWiki:User space explains it all. →FireBird

[edit] Trogga

One more edit and it's blocking time? Heck, I'm ready right now. Let's face it, we have a Troll in our midst. A Troll in Gnome's clothing. So we're in agreement then? One more false move, and blockage? Thunderbird 01:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

I think s/he's just sick of everyone complaining about his/her crappy edits. So yeah, one more bad edit and we should pull 'em outta here. →FireBird
Well that was your decision to make. Personally, I think 48 hours was a bit harsh, since s/he seemed to be cooling off, and that s/he had already deleted the image. If s/he comes back after this, I would like to give him/her another *close watched* chance. I know s/he's done alot to wreck the wiki, but his/her large list of edits, many of them solid, does show that s/he cares about the wiki. S/he's just... a bit opinionated. In any case, I can't say for sure it was the wrong thing to do. It may be just what s/he needed. I guess time'll tell... Thunderbird 00:07, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
I know s/he cares about the wiki, but maybe just a tad to much (as in, so much as to get stubborn and insulting). Just wanted to show that we're serious when we're talking about blocking. I think this will show him/her that s/he needs to stop when someone asks, especially when it's Joey and other sysops. We're not in preschool. →FireBird
I'm kinda neutral on this whole thing. On the one hand, I do agree that Trogga's edits were getting a bit, shall we say, severe in some cases. But, given Trogga's useful edits, I was a little surprised to see that you'd actually banned him. --Jay (Talk) 00:53, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Again, we've threatened to ban him several times and he hasn't stopped. If you think it's too harsh, we could tone it down to 24 hours, but I feel that Trogga needs to know that if he doesn't stop he will get banned. →FireBird
I'm not saying that. I just sorta felt the need to add my two cents, as I've been merely sitting on the sidelines for this whole debacle. Ignore me. PS. Edit conflict redux.--Jay (Talk) 01:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Wow, edit conflicted twice in a row. Quite the hot topic. Anyways, I respect your decision. Plus I am kinda relieved, that you made the decision for me. Although I did ask Tom about the whole thing shortly before you blocked Trogga, and he suggested 24 hours next time anything went wrong, which is what I would have gone with. If you wanna shorten it, I'm behind you. Thunderbird 00:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Okay. If Tom says 24 hours, 24 hours it is. →FireBird

[edit] Army-Style Mayo

Sorry about that, I didn't notice that you had changed the page to a redirect and reverted the page from a trolling, undoing your edit as well. --Gafaddict 13:50, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

It's fine. I do that a lot, too. →FireBird

[edit] Siggie

Hey F-Bird. I just thought I'd pass a bit of Joey Day wisdom on to you about sigs. Have you tried the template meathod? Basically it lets you shorten your code left behind, and lets you change ALL your sigs at the same time. You just put your sig code on a subpage of your userpage, (e.g. 'User:FireBird/sig' or something). Then in your prefferances box, put —FireBird|Talk. And that's all there is to it. That way, you can keep your same sig, with your arrow not being linked and everything, and then be able to use the '~~~~' meathod, I think. You could even use the timestamp! And the whole code is in one, easily viewable, *protected* place. It sure changed my life man. Spread the word! Thunderbird 18:28, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

I already did, just haven't posted any comments. Thanks, though. —FireBird|Talk
By jove, you're right! A solid 18:28, 20 May 2005 - 05:22, 19 May 2005 ahead of me (Too lazy to do the math). So is that gonna be your new sig? I kinda liked your old one better. But that one's good too. Thunderbird 07:51, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
That's a pretty good trick. I've done it with mine! «Rob» 08:05, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm having a hard time deciding, Thunderbird. I know I'm keeping the Talk thing, but I can't decide between "→FireBird|(Talk)" and my current one. —FireBird|Talk
I dunno, I kinda miss the green. Makes it more distinguished from other sigs, easily noticible. Plus you've had it for so long, you'd loose all that history of it to change to something completely different suddenly. Thunderbird 06:11, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I just can't decide! I'll probably end of using this one, but I may switch back to my old one in time. Though I don't know if it makes it more distinguished from others, since a lot of people have green sigs now. =) —FireBird|Talk 12:04, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Comment from SBEMAILER113

what was wrong with my idea? It is true. (sarry for changing it back. I'm stubern.)

He was just singing a song. He doesn't really have a car. —FireBird|Talk

thanks for to help. --SBEMAILER113 21:12, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to refras my coment and try agin.(sary for my bad spelling as you have noted.)

Huh? —FireBird|Talk 21:18, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

let me try again. I'm going to rephrase my comment and try again.(sorry for my bad spelling as you have noted.)Thanks again for all the help. I hope we can be frinds :^). --SBEMAILER113 21:31, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, don't take this the wrong way- we're still friends. But I don't think the fun fact needs to be put there at all. Just because he mentions a car doesn't mean he has one or has anything to do with this email. —FireBird|Talk 21:32, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I get your point. Thanks,:^)--SBEMAILER113 21:38, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Any time. —FireBird|Talk 21:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] H.Fairstival left/right "goof"

Just clear me up on the definition of a goof here. Do we define a goof as "a mistake a character made" or as "a mistake TBC made", or both? In which ca...I think I just nullified my own edit of the Hallowe'en Fairstival page with that arguement!

Either way, the original question still stands.

Cheers, - Tweek

Well, any goof a character made, TBC made. I say keep it, because it is definately a goof. He points to his right when he says left, and points to the left when he says right. —FireBird|Talk
"Well, any goof a character made, TBC made"...I'm not sure I agree with that. TBC could well have intentionally made Bubs mix up his left/right to show that he, like most H*R characters, isn't the smartest of souls. Heck, Bubs might have even intended to do that anyway, in that he thought the audience would find it funny. I'm thinking waaay too much in to this now. I'll go and edit things that don't require so much concentration - Tweek
TBC make the characters move and animate them. So, basicly, yes, any goof the character makes, TBC makes. But if you care this strongly about it you can add it to STUFF. —FireBird|Talk

[edit] time capsule


Because they are not. —FireBird|Talk 12:26, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
but they are, though.
No, they aren't. If I'm not mistaking, TBC use a saved design of Homestar to use over and over. Why would he have different eyes now? —FireBird|Talk 16:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
I would have thought so to but look and you'll see that they are clearly different.
I still don't see it. Add it to STUFF and see what others think about it. —FireBird|Talk 18:17, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Does this make it more obvious? Homestar's eyes, screencapped from time capsule and flipped, and placed next to the "come on in" Homestar: obviouslydifferent3mu.jpg
Not really. Just add it to STUFF, like I said. That was several people can vote on it, not just me. :) —FireBird|Talk 18:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Firebird, I was about ready to decline it off of STUFF, but I looked at it. Compare it to flashback. Sorry, but he's right. Homestar's left eye (that is, the one on your right) is much further to the left than usual (compare it with the line of his mouth.) It's winning on STUFF anyway. However, since the eyes are different scales there, you're right that the picture is totally unconvincing. --Jay (Talk) 18:11, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I still think they look the same. Oh well. —FireBird|Talk 21:31, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be easier to tell if we pasted the "time capsule" eyes on Homestar's head next to his "normal" eyes, using a picture that renders the size of Homestar's head and eyes to be the same to that in time capsule. Another words, take a screenshot of Homestar's head in a Strong Bad email other than time capsule, then compare the eyes. --BazookaJoe 04:01, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gross Old Wig rewrite

Hey FireBird. I did have a reason for formatting the Gross Old Wig article with bullet points. I wanted to avoid directly quoting Homestar giving his reasons for putting the GOW in the time machine. You see, when we quote Homestar saying "gross and nasty and old and he didn't want it", it isn't technically correct, because Homestar says "I" instead of "he."

I have a couple options open in order to avoid this:

  • Put it back in bullets without the quotations.
  • Show that "he" was not spoken by homestar. i.e., "gross and nasty and old and [he] didn't want it." (I do not like the look of the [he]).
  • leave it in the paragraph, but take the quotes out. (This my least favored option, because this is too close to being a direct quote to be meshed into the sentence).

I would just like to hear what you think. Thanks. --BazookaJoe 03:52, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Another thing. I wrote the article in past tense because (in my opinion) that sounds better. Homestar says, " is gross and nasty and old and I don't want it" in the present tense. That's another thing we need to consider. Do you have any other ideas besides my three? Like, revise it to present tense, or not? --BazookaJoe 13:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I wasn't considering anything any of this in my rewrite. I didn't think the bullets looked too good, so I just put them into a paragraph, which I see now was a bad idea. I say we go back to your idea with bullets. —FireBird|Talk 15:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Sounds good, but when I read my version with the bullets over, I think the sentence leading up to the bullets sounds kind of stupid. It may just be me, the artist, thinking his work is not good enough. It's not really that important, but I'll try to think of a way to revise that. Cool cool. --BazookaJoe 16:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
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