Talk:@StrongBadActual

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Gallery

I see there is a twitpic gallery. Before I upload the latest one, do we want to upload all of them? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 21:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

• I think we should archive all the Twitter pictures. If there get to be too many here we can start a new page for them. — Bassbone (^{TALK CONT}) 23:32, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

There used to be a different cover photo. I don't know if anyone managed to get it. But it was a close-up of Puppet Strong Bad's eyes. Homfrog 01:33, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

3D Lappier model gif/gifs

Hey, I downloaded the looping Lappier images from the Twitter feed and converted them to GIFs, but I don't have the permissions to upload them.
The Twitter3DLappier.gif is here and the TwitterLappier.gif is here.
I also have the original .mp4s from the feed, which are located here for the TwitterLappier.gif and here for the 3D printed Lappier. UN TACO 20:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

You need special permissions to upload files? Catjaz63 20:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, you need to be an Autoconfirmed user, which I'm not, since I'm new. :P I get this error when trying to access the file. UN TACO 20:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll upload them for you. Catjaz63 20:36, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. :) UN TACO 20:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Numbering the Tweets

So, there are many tweets and possibly more to come. However, when a tweet references some running gag in the Homestar Runner Universe, it is added to the "appearances" section of that running gag's page, but just as @StrongBadActual. Should we have some kind of numbering system for the tweets, so if the tweets repeat a joke, you can identify which tweets and referencing what joke? I feel bunching all the tweets together instead of listing them seperately makes it a bit confusing. It's like if we just put "Videlectrix" whenever the website referenced a joke. - Catjaz63 00:38, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

It would be a great idea to use some form of identificaption for each tweet. But now comes the difficult part. Is numbering adequate? For example, if we number them based on the order they are added (eg, 001, 002, 003), but we forget to list one of them (so the fifth one is written as 004 instead of 005), do we change all of the surrounding numbers (008 becomes 009 and so on) or just tack it on as an afterthought (adding 004 as 004a, for example)?

Or, do we use the numerical identifier Twitter uses for each tweet (eg, Keyboard Strong Bad is "591293390140153856"), or the ASCII-based identifier for the shorter link to the page itself (Keyboard Strong Bad is "aRm7hX7iUC")? Should readability be important, or should it take a backseat to accuracy? And, if it should be readable, should it include the date and time, subject, accompanying toon, or any other relevant information to distinguish it from the other tweets?

*gasp* My vote is for the cells in the table to be identified by the numerical identifier, but not shown visibly and instead used to locate the cell itself in internal links. Then the textual references can be identified by date. So the link would say "Tweet from @StrongBadActual on April 23, 2015" and link to "@StrongBadActual#591293390140153856".-- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 01:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I think we should do the numerical identifier, but it should be listed on the @StrongBadActual page so it can easily be copy+pasted. Or, maybe a sub-page with all the identifiers. However, since the tweets are showcased in rows, how would it auto-scroll down to the correct tweet? -Catjaz63 01:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, I hate to say it, but we might have to make it into a vertical list (like the YouTube Thumbnails). That format seems to work better when linking to specific information, whereas a gallery is better when that is not necessary. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 01:50, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Would it be too much of a crime to give each tweet his own page? He doesn't update very often, soooooo.... yea or nay, juys? PsychicRadroach 05:08, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

One individual wiki page for each tweet? Yeah that sounds like a serious misdemeanor or maybe even an entry level felony. I think Purple Wrench's suggestion of numbering the tweet (001, 002, etc...) and displaying that numbering would suffice. It actually wouldn't be too difficult to modify the {{tweet}} template to support such a feature via an optional parameter. The template can also automatically build the anchor link so that a tweet can be linked like so: [[@StrongBadActual#tw005|some link]]. And if typing all that is too much, we can also create a template to automatically link to tweets! That said, it's too late for me to do such changes tonight. Feedback welcome. --Stux 05:35, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

My concern with that, like I said before, is that numbering like "tw005" doesn't allow for potential mistakes to be made. If tw005 should actually be tw006, then tw006, tw007, tw008 etc all have to be changed. If we use a numbering system that doesn't concern itself with order, then no matter what order the tweets are added to this page, they will all be linked correctly. Any mistake will only affect a single tweet, rather than all the tweets before or after it. However, if you think that's not enough of a concern, then it certainly is a viable option. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 16:47, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Ah! No, no, no. I wasn't suggesting automatic renumbering. I was suggesting full manual numbering. I briefly considered automatic renumbering but rejected the idea for the same reasons that you mention. Instead the template would be used like so: {{tweet|idx=001|...}} and then it would display "Tweet #001" in the text and create anchor link to #tw001 automagically. --Stux 21:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I liked the suggestion of using the tweet ids as our own internal ids as well, rather than us making our own numbering. — Defender1031*Talk 12:53, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Video gifs

So Strong Bad's most recent tweet features a gif video with audio. How will we transcript or list this without putting on a .gif without the necessary audio? - Catjaz63 22:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

This problem becomes even more priminent and it appears they're going to be doing this video gif stuff regularly on the Twitter page and stuffs. - Catjaz63 19:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it's actually a gif. The Edgarware animation was likely a gif that got converted to a "gifv" or an mp4 or something like that, so it wasn't terrible to convert it back. But this started out as a video, not a gif.

My suggestion is, leave a small screenshot of the video and add a description (or transcript, if possible) underneath it. That roughly equates what we do for YouTube videos. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 21:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Nah; Edgarware and this are all .mp4 but are labelled as .gif's by Twitter. How about making like, a "click here" to redirect to a transcript below? I'd like to see what you mean by this. - Catjaz63 22:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I meant something like this:

STRONG BAD: Hi, I'm Strong Bad, and this is MY talk and mouth move. 'Cause Homestar just doesn't bring the great times, am I right? ...Anyone?

Hey you juys, here's anudda update fo' ya!

3T Jul 2015

Except maybe with a hide/show button for the text. Just a quick sketch of an idea, there. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 00:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm a bit concerned how this would work with the template; all the boxes are normally the same size. However, this idea of yours makes it longer. — Catjaz63 (Talk | contribs) 00:22, 29 July 2015 (left unsigned)

Who are you? ...Oh, Catjaz, sorry, I couldn't tell. Yeah, you're right that it makes the boxes longer. If we put the transcript below, though, it might get unruly, and if we put it on separate pages they might be too short (I'm thinking long-term here). And the show/hide button could be positioned so that it's the same size as every other box until you click on it.

Or, we could switch to a one-column table format, with pictures on the left, the description in the center, and the date on the right. Then the description box could also have a show/hide button for the transcript to appear below the description inside the box, and all of the tweets would still be the same width. Height wouldn't matter anymore. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 01:13, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I think that's the best idea, honestly. Though, we might need to separate the pages if he begins tweeting a bunch. - Catjaz63 15:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Again, this is all long-term, but it would probably be sufficient to separate them by year. Maybe by season if the videos become involved. But this is Twitter we're talking about, so naturally it's likely going to be pretty concise all around. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 00:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Video mirror

I think we should make mirror links for the videos, if legal. --BroncoTroll^☺ 21:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

That could take up a lot of space depending on how frequently they add videos. At the least, though, having thumbnails for the videos might be a good idea. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 22:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm just concerned that he'll take down the account and we'll lose the content like with ronginald. --BroncoTroll^☺ 00:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

So the three videos he has now (I'm not counting the gif-videos) take up 5.7MB. That's less than Fish Eye Lens, but it's only about 30 seconds long. For a more drastic comparison, crying is roughly half the size of the video where he only quotes the intro from it! (that's 586KB for the sbemail and 1MB for the video)

For a user to download a bunch of these videos, all tee really needs is a moderately-sized hard drive and a fast Internet-style konnekshun. Hosting them on a mirror requires both server costs and the appropriate bandwidth. The wiki has been able to reduce its server costs considerably (and that's why there are no more fundraisers for it), but at the expense of both speed and bandwidth. That's why it practically went down after April Fool 2014 from all the hype.

In short, any user who wants to see it saved can take action temmself. I might consider making a Homestar Offsite page that links to all the videos directly for that purpose. But only if they put up enough videos for it to really make a difference. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 00:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Ugh I remember that. It was frikken slow. And only a few days ago with Flash is dead! the same thing happened. It's like a datum center bank run. --BroncoTroll^☺ 21:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Do we need the Identity section still?

The main reason the Identity section was created in this page was because the legitimacy of the account was still under debate at the time. However, now that we know it's completely official, do we really need it? We could easily super-hyper-condense it into a Fun Fact if we really needed to or just remove it all-together. - Catjaz63 11:38, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

But we don't know who exactly operates the account. It could be either Matt or Mike (or both) - heck, it could even be Jonathan Howe. RickTommy (edits) 12:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Cat. It seems kind of weird now that we know it's official. --BroncoTroll^☺ 21:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

It certainly isn't relevant anymore... but it was relevant at one time. That seems like reason enough to keep it. After all, no one is getting rid of HRWiki:A History even though most of it doesn't have any urgent repercussions now. But maybe it should be modified to reflect that there was a time people were concerned about who was behind this Twitter account, and we documented the proverbial snot out of it, which you can see here, and now we can all look back and laugh at how obviously it was TBC all along. That's the attitude a good knowledgebase should have towards keeping information.

Except for that one time when *bzzzzzzzzzzt* CONNECTION TERMINATED -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 01:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Retweets

How are we going to treat retweets by Strong Bad? Are we going to treat them similarly to replies? - Catjaz63 11:47, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I'd say we list them in a different section. --BroncoTroll^☺ 04:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Given from what I've seen so far, it seems like the retweets are recognized fanstuff. The wiki policy on fanstuff is that it isn't allowed unless recognized on the H*R website (this is before Twitter was a thing though). There might be a need for a new wiki policy discussion regarding SB retweets. — Ngamer01 16:01, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Identity Crisis

So there's a bit of a problem currently. Both the Instagram and Twitter run off the handle @strongbadactual due to the way that Instagram and Twitter allow for targeting of other users or mentions. So, I think we should do "@StrongBadActual (Twitter)" and "@strongbadactual (Instagram)" in order to separate the accounts and keep the names consistent. - Catjaz63 21:10, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Why not just Twitter and Instagram and we have something like "for the deactivated account used previously, see @ronginald" at the top of Twitter instead of the disambig page that it is now? — Defender1031*Talk 21:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

We can do that. - Catjaz63 21:38, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

But what if they make more accounts related to H*R? I feel like adding the website in brackets would be better. - Catjaz63 21:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

If all of the posts are similar in content/length to what has been posted so far, we could merge all of the sites together under one page and just specify which social media site corresponds to each post. See also: the table on my sandbox page, which I've updated to seamlessly include the Instagram posts. -- ■■   POPLE  STENCH?   ■■ 01:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

That seems like a cool idea on paper, but in execution that would be a hassle to sort through and/or really messy and non-organized. I say we just keep them separate. - Catjaz63 03:11, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Click here to E-mail Strong Bad?

Since Strong Bad is officially all up ons these social networking sites, does that mean he no longer checks e-mails, or that there's no other way to contact him? I'm concerned because I don't use social networking sites and would prefer not to in the event I may want to contact Strong Bad in the future. 99.48.86.26 02:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Nobody knows. They probably do check their email from time to time though. - Catjaz63 02:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, considering that one of the earliest tweets in this HRWiki archive says "The combo of spam and neglect have made me self-aware. Goodbye forever, Strong Bad. :-(", I'd say that seems fairly final, even if it is a joke. So I probably won't get my hopes up. But it won't stop me from trying anyway. 99.48.86.26

Send in more wiki!

Isn't it at least disturbing to you that the Gallery has these patches?
Can't we just add more information about them? Ooh ooh! I know! I know!
How about we create a transcript article for all the videos Strong Bad
has tweeted? And when you click on the newly added photos for the
posts, they link to the article. You never know when the account could
be deleted like @ronginald was...

XY 71.122.225.64 9:13 PM, March 8th, 2016 (EST)