User talk:Sam the Man

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Contents 1 Leaving 2 Saved a copy 3 Subpages for deletion 4 Concerning Justin 5 New here 6 Hello! 7 Last warning? 8 Aren't you gone yet? 9 Weclome Back! 10 Reply to your deleted comments 11 Welcome Back 12 SBA 13 important! 14 SBA 15 Test notices 16 Policing 17 Peace Treaty thing 18 Hi 19 Talk Page Posts 20 Username 21 sorry, and thank you 22 Politeness 23 Pokemon 24 Careless reverting 25 "Nope, not at all" on Trogdor

Leaving

Are you okay Sam? --TheYellowDart—(t/c) 19:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Nobody is mad at you. Hey, we all have a past. Heck, look at mine. I got blocked before. But that's behind me now. It's alright. --TheYellowDart—(t/c) 20:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't leave! Mr. 567 20:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Sam, I don't know why you are leaving but you shouldn't go. If you could not help, just keep trying. If you did something bad, it's ok. We don't want you to leave. You welcomed me to the wiki. If you want to leave it's ok. We'll miss you.--ONESTOP 20:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Sam, I'm sorry to hear that you've chosen to leave. I think you've done a lot of good work on our articles during the time you spent here. I understand that you've chosen to leave because of a recent conflict regarding a post on a new user's talk page. Please don't feel bad about that; I think you have a lot of potential, and I've seen quite a bit of improvement in the quality of your talk page posts during your time on the wiki.

I understand your decision to leave, and if you're feeling strained by things in real life (your parents, etc.), as you mentioned, then taking a break might be a good thing. I just want to let you know that you're welcome to return at any time, and I'm free to discuss anything you want about the reason you left.

Take care, Trey56 20:13, 16 Dismember 2007 (UTC)

Wait a Sec, You ain't leaving the fanstuff are ya? Sephiroth 20:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I wonder how many times you'll say you are leaving this wiki! But, you misspelled "however" on your userpage, you're gonna have to be blocked for that :P Have a good rest of the year. See you when you get back,

Homestar-Winner (talk) 23:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Wait, BLOCKED? Sam the Man 23:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

That was a joke, as shown by me putting a :P after what I said. And if you already know that, never mind it. Homestar-Winner (talk) 23:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

If we blocked people for misspelling things on userpages, who would be left here? ;-) Anyway, Sam, have a good break, and I hope you'll come back refreshed. Heimstern Läufer 00:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna miss your butt dance sig!:p see ya when you come back!--Geoblu2 04:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, Sam the Man, I pine for you! We sure had some great times, bro. In memoriam. -DAGRON 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC). (Oh, wait, you're not dead. Good. I thought they got you with a stake through the heart. Have a good break.)

Saved a copy

Incase you don't want to leave, I saved a copy of your page when it was your birthday. I went into the history then edit and copied everything. We are going to miss you.--ONESTOP 20:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC) : (

That's ok, but the history will never go away, ever. ^{The Goblin!!} 21:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Subpages for deletion

Hey Sam. I noticed you left three pages marked for deletion when you decided to take a break. Did you really mean for those to be deleted, or did you just forget to untag them? If you'd still like them deleted, just say so here, otherwise just untag them. Thanks! — It's dot com 00:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Opps. That's just me in anger. Save them. I'm off to Burmuda now! (Not really. Enjoying my wikibreak). Sam the Man 01:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Don't forget that you need to take the deletion tags off in that case. — It's dot com 01:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Concerning Justin

Hi, Sam, there are still some things we need to work on when dealing with newer users. Here you are improving in writing your messages, but you still need to polish it up. For example, "you making way to many subpages" has two problems: first, it needs to be "you are making way too many". (There are also other parts that need proofreading that I won't discuss.) Second, the problem isn't really that he's making too many subpages; it's that the subpages do not comply with our policy. It would have been best to link to our policy, like this.

Also, when Justin became disruptive (and yes, he was disruptive, you are right about that), you began to use some alarmed-sounding language, like the edit summaries here and here. This is a bad idea because it tends to make the situation worse: it does the opposite of calming the person down. It also was a bad idea to edit war with OptimisticFool over his userpage. If you disagree with someone else about what's acceptable on a userpage, ask a sysop to intervene.

I say this not to be overly critical, but because we do still need to present a professional, tactful and calm voice to our new users, even if they're disruptive. Therefore, please read the messages you write to users carefully and make sure they're clear and grammatically correct. And if they become disruptive, be calm in return (if you have a hard time with this, consider just waiting it out until someone else deals with the situation). Keep these in mind, and you should be on the road to doing better. Deal? Deal. OK, keep on tranglin'! Heimstern Läufer 03:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Also very important: if you suspect that a user is a sock, please do not ever post that suspicion on the user's talk page. If turns out that you're wrong and it's just a new user, one of the first things that new user will see is that accusation. Instead, ask a sysop to deal with it. My talk page is always open for this. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer 20:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

New here

Hi,Sam.This is Katonator.Katonator ;">3000 15:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Ummm, hi. What's up? Sam the Man 18:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I like Strong Bad.I was wondering if I could check the SBA.Katonator3000 05:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

This is also a new user...sorta it is Coach B and I want to be part of the Strong Bad Alleigence too! Coach B| PRANK CALL!|17:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello, Sam. I am the same age as you! Plus, I love sports, video games, and Homestar Runner.com! I was wondering... can I join your SBA club? Please? Thanks! User:Hooray4homestar

That's great. But about the SBA, are you a total Strong Bad? No you has what it takes? Sam the Man 16:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I has what it takes. I think Strong Bad rocks! He has the ladies all up ons. User:Hooray4homestar

Okay, now I'm wondering if my friend, User:Hooray4Trogdor95 and I can both join the club. We're both HUGE Strong Bad fans. We are loyal to Strong Bad! Hooray4homestar 20:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Last warning?

I'm kind of curious how you're going to back up the "last warning" you gave Justin. Last I checked you don't have access to the block feature. In other words, leave messages if you have to, but leave "last" warnings to the sysops. — It's dot com 23:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Aren't you gone yet?

I thought like 2 weeks ago you were leaving.

Apparently, he decided not to, which is good. Heimstern Läufer 23:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Weclome Back!

Hi, you were gone briefly in 2007, so it's good to see you back! HaldoHelscome!

I don't think he was ever gone, even though he did once say that he was going. Still, it's good to see that you're still here, Sam. Homestar-Winner (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Reply to your deleted comments

I'm sorry, Sam, we know you are trying to helpful. But unfortunately, you aren't succeeding. You say you're not trying to start fights, and I believe you. Nonetheless, fights do start when you talk to new users often enough that we have no choice but to restrict you on this. We've tried to give you advice several times, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in.

I know you are trying to be helpful, and I would encourage you to be helpful in some other way, as It's dot com has said above. You could also take advantage of his offer of help on IRC (I can probably help out with this, too, if you'd like.)

We don't want to discourage you from contributing, but we can't have the disruption that results from your interaction with new users any longer, even if it's not intentional. I'm sorry. Heimstern Läufer 20:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sam, I really don't understand what you are doing, recently. You have been asked several times not to do this anymore. Can it really be so hard to stay away from edits of this kind and simply contribute to the wiki? Also, that edit summary was way out of order after what It's dot com and Heimstern asked you. As Heimstern said, this behaviour is disruptive to the wiki, and you're not helping anybody. Please stop it right now. In addition to this, threatening to vandalize is not acceptable, and you know it. Maybe it really is a good idea for you to take a break and cool down a little. When you come back, please have another read of our comments on your talk page, and check out your old edits. Maybe with a clear head, you'll see what went wrong. See you then, Loafing 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome Back

Yo, welcome back to the wiki. The-homsarrunner 6:34 Jan,13,2008

Hey, I'm glad that you're back, Sam. Hooray4homestar 22:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

SBA

Sam the Man, are you sure that I don't has what it takes to join the SBA? I'd really like to join... Hooray4homestar 23:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

All right, never mind. I don't want to join anymore. I gots my own club! Hooray4homestar 21:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

important!

dude, i dont contact you much, but big chaos on simpedia! come quick! Slipknot6477 01:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

SBA

Let me join >:-( Coach B| PRANK CALL!|23:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry. The SBA is retired. Sam the Man 00:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Test notices

Just for the future, there is a template you can use when giving someone a test notice, Template:Test. This will make it a bit easer since you won't have to type that stuff up all by yourself. Homestar-Winner (talk) 23:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's the link to the wiki's carefully worded template: {{test}}. It has simple instructions for use (don't forget to use subst:) and I've used it myself several times. Enjoy! --Stux 00:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I know. I was in a rush to my school bus and I had to make one really quickly. But, I knew that template existed. Sam the Man 00:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

OK. Now that I think about it, I probably have seen you use it before. Over and out, Homestar-Winner (talk) 00:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Well for important notices like these it's always good to err on the side of caution. See ya later. --Stux 00:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

If you're in a rush, then don't put up notices on users' talk pages. Simple as that. What's the harm in letting another user do that? It's certainly better than leaving messages that are not up to standard - especially when you know that you're not doing it properly. You have been asked before not to police other users for a while, and my advice for you is to always make sure you're doing it absolutely correct when you're about to post something on a talk page. If you're unsure whether you follow our policies and guidelines, don't post. If you know you're not doing it properly, don't post. There's always next time. And it's a wiki, so don't stress, someone else will do the job if you don't. Loafing 00:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Policing

Sam, please remember that you aren't supposed to be policing the wiki. Something like this counts as policing. If you see something like this that needs attention, let a sysop know rather than handling it yourself. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer 21:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Peace Treaty thing

Did I hear something about a treaty thing between you and Ducky? When did that happen? - ‪‪‪Znex 23:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

When I welcomed him back. I expected a treaty. Sam the Man 23:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Obviously, he didn't take it in that way. - ‪‪‪Znex 23:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi can you become a Delete Head go to my page. Coach B| PRANK CALL!|01:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk Page Posts

See HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#General - while it's not best practice, one is well in their rights to remove posts from their talk page. The only possible exception to this would be an official message on behalf of admins, and even there it's a grey area. Reverting that with impunity would just result in a quickening of the eventual consequence (likely a ban) anyway. As much as I agree with your post and the sentiment behind it, and as much as I agree that he should let it stand, he's entitled to not have it there if he chooses. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  16:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Sam, you're once again policing the wiki by trying to make Coach B keep that message on his page. And once again, your policing proved disruptive. Please stop. Heimstern Läufer 17:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Username

Can i use your buttdance? Ok, all wrong-sounding trhings aside, I mean the one in your username. i want 2 use it in mine. Plz? -- Lazylaces Talk 15:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

sorry, and thank you

i realized there was probably not enough of them to have a page, but i wanted to do SOMETHING for hrwiki.org. and for you to be able to find my paghe while i'm still working! amazing!!! so thank you for helping me realize that it wasn't a good idea and for being the first person on my talk page. yes, i'm that new. 12/24/07 as stated in my user page. but i'll keep trying to do something other than fix a gramatical error. i realize also that i probably won't be able to get to alot of pages/ideals before anyone else. to be honest, i thought there already was a page on the stuffed animals. i've seen your name all over the wiki, and i told you, i haven't been a member for long, but i've known about the site for about a year.

thanks, and again sorry about the page, Homsarstrongbad150

i got your reply, and i need to know, how to set up the signature Homsarstrongbad150

Homsarstrongbad150 23:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

the tildes do nothing yet if you haven't set up a signature, right

oh, they do, but how do you get pictures like on yours?

thanks, Homsarstrongbad150 23:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Politeness

Hello again, Sam. This edit summary was rather disrespectful. That's not OK, Homsarstrongbad150 was only trying to help. Now, please apologize to him and remember to treat other users with the politeness and respect that you expect from them. Thanks. Loafing 23:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

it's ok. we talked about it and i realized it wasn't such a good idea. but my question is how did the space lobster get a page?

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Europa-pean_Lobster

and we can't have one for stuffed animals?

Homsarstrongbad150 00:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, Homsarstrongbad150, it's not been decided what to do with the article, yet! Check out the talk page for the ongoing discussion. Loafing 00:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon

Hey, I noticed on your talk page that you said Pokemon sucks. Do you mean the anime or everything about it? Because I've been a Pokemon fan forever, and I just wanted to check. If you're talking about the newer TV episodes, I'd have to agree with you... Hooray4Homestar 18:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey! You said that Pokemon was for 7 year olds, and I'm 14! I love Pokemon. I am insulted! Lasor Lime 19:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's my opinion, not yours. I can think what I want to. And say what I want to (at least if it's not swears (^_^) If you know what I mean) Sam the Man 19:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah... I know... but you still didn't answer my question. Hooray4Homestar 19:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Yeah, they both suck. Period. Sam the Man 19:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, Sam, we could probably think of a nicer, less harsh way to put it. At any rate, let's all agree to disagree on this one, shall we? Great. Heimstern Läufer 19:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

??? Yeah, what you said. Sam the Man 19:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

By the way, my friend who is 18 (the guy who got me interested in Homestar Runner) still likes the Pokemon games, and he got the 1st season of it for Christmas last year. Homestar-Winner (talk) 12:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Careless reverting

Sam the Man: This is ridiculous. (I am also leaving the same message to SamFisher1022 and DeFender1031.) As established editors I believe you handled poorly the welcoming of this user. Instead of providing a more welcoming and inviting message, you have a quick edit war of sorts in someone else's user talk page. Imagine how a new user would feel seeing this kind of mysterious edit summary arguments going on. This sort of behavior could easily turn away prospective editors (good or not so much). I think in general we've established a bad habit of quick reverts with a simple edit summary and no explanation. Friendly but informative notices to less established users should be the norm, not the exception. --Stux 20:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

"Nope, not at all" on Trogdor

Really? Why not?