Talk:Coach Z Ale

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Doe not delete this! --Technochocolate 03:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Why not? what purpose could this possibly serve? -- Tony Stony 03:31, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)'s a drink! --04:19, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)04:19, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

We could merge this info into Cold One - Dr Haggis - Talk 15:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

But this isn't a type of Cold One- it's just another type of beer. If we merge it with anything it should be Coach Z, methinks. —FireBird|Talk 15:49, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I second that. Coach Z does seem to be the most logical place for it.--Shippinator Mandy
Shouldn't it really be merged into time capsule? Aurora the Homestar Coder 16:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I personally don't think this needs to exist at all. All info found on this page can be found in the email, except for the image, which is useless. -- Tony Stony 22:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm with Tony on this one, although if enough people think it's worth merging into something, Time Capsule makes sense to me. -- Eric 03:03, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Nah, merge it with coach Z. In fact, dont even merge it, just put a tiny footnote about it in coach Z and time capsule--Mikelx215 00:41, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I Don't think this needs deleting.--Clash
On second thought, merging with time capsule sounds good. —FireBird|Talk 21:43, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree w/Mikelx215 -User: Tapd260

the question is, in fact, why SHOULD it be deleted?

There is no reson for it to be deleted. Please keep it.User:Undabite

I say delete. It's ridiculously small, and there's nothing to be added to it, since it only appeared once. It's just a small Easter Egg, and barely significant. If there were even three sentences to be said about this topic, I would be for keeping it, but as it is, it is pretty useless. Trelawney

I've seen smaller and less notable pages then this. And small pages are not inherently bad. Keep. Has Matt? (talk) 23:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I've made many pages like this, and most are around the same size and appear once. See Puke Pail, for instance. If I had seen it first I would have made this page. I say keep. --The_homestrongzipansadcheatsmith2.PNG Tlk/Cnt 23:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Merge

I still say Merge any info onto the Cold One article, as that is where we keep all the info about different kinds of beer. - Dr Haggis - Talk 21:48, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I was the person who actually created this page. Several other pages exist for products that are easter eggs, and only referenced once. If people are deadset on having this deleted or moved, then I would suggest merging into the cold one article, but I'm not sure why this one has been singled out for merging or deletion. --Duke33 17:37, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I don't get it either, Duke33. I think that, maybe, merging w/ Cold One might be good, but I seriously don't think it should. User:Undabite

There are other "easter egg product" pages, but since we have a suitable place to put Beer/Cold one info we should keep it all together. If we had tons of short "pizza" articles we could merge an article like Bubs' Old Pizza together onto the broader topic, until any singular item became significant enough to stand on its own. Coach Z ale has not gone anywhere since its inception. Should it garner a few more appearances we will have enough information to justify a stand-alone article. - Dr Haggis - Talk 16:18, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

"This product was the first of only three foodstuff items in the Homestar Runner Universe to feature a main character's name on the packaging (the other products being Cheatcakes and Coach Z Ale)." That's off of the Strong Bad's Eggs food and drink page. It has importance! If it isn't good enough for a stand-alone, it should be merged, but i think it has enough weight to stay. :Best5bucksever 00:12, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Everyone aggreed on merging, say I.User:Undabite

I say they should merge all mentioned drinks together onto one page. With Cold Ones maybe?


There's no need to delete it! If you call this useless, you're calling every other page on this site useless!

Wow. Your logic is truly impressive. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 19:33, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Naw, just keep it. I don't really see a need for deletion. --SaikoRoxi 10:17, July 22, 2005

lol, good one HC. But I don't think it's worth a page. Just like Coach Z's Z wasn't. Besides, this only appears once on the entire site, and only in an easter egg. Baleet. ——Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 04:24, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

y should it be deleted? thats the thing about homestar wiki. everything about homestar. EVERYTHING. i can see y we can keep it, but not y we should delete it. its not like it takes up space. Besides, theres another article about Jobar's Big Ol' Headache Medicine, which is also from an easter egg in time capsule, and its also for a product. that article is pretty much the same size as well, and it is'nt pending deletation, so y should this one? I say, just keep the "stub" thingy on 'em and leave 'em alone!--Bubsty.

[edit] More is Better

Doesn't really seem logical to modify or remove a page that seems to work fine as a standalone. If it's going to be changed at all, then I agree with an appropriate merge, but not a full deletion. That's pointless. (Edit: Adding who I am.) Gingercat 01:58, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

KEEP or MERGE My only question is, where can I get some differently lame ale? THE SMOKING MONKEY 11:57, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I second the person who said it was worth keeping due to its mention on the Strong Bad Eggs food and drink page. Plus, I really like Coach Z, lame or not. Thexder 23 August 2005

Why has this not been deleted yet?!?!?!?!?!? It's been pending deletion for like, 3 months do what you wanna do with it now! I think we should:

did I mention DELETE? '
--—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 01:31, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There's no way it's been pending baleetion for that long. I created it a few minutes ago. · · T2|Things 21:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
See notice two comments below. Thunderbird 21:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Y delete? Is it hurting anything? Didn't one of the chapman's say they thought it was cool how the wiki had so much covererd? Specifically at that flash conference thingy, they said it was cool how u could type something as abstract at "the orange couch" and something would come up.

I am going to assume this is a good place to vote. I am going to go with delete. This was a one time easter egg in a SBEmail, and is unlikely to appear again. However, if we do keep this, we should clean this up a wee bit. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 22:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

If we aint gonna baleet this, then someone should get an image. My decompiler and image editor are both very fickle and will not let me save the screenshot of the logo as a .png since it comes from a sprite and not a regular frame. · · T2|Things 21:23, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notice

This article was originally created on December 3rd 2004. On June 10th 2005 it was marked for deletion. After a lengthy debate, the decision to delete was made on August 27th, 2005. It was recreated over eight months later, on April 28th, 2006, for a second shot at life. The deleted revisions have been restored for the time being, for a reconsideration of either deletion, or to be kept permanently as an article. Thunderbird 21:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
A good point was raised earlier: what is the rationale behing wanting to delete this and to keep, say, Jobar's Big Ol' Headache Medicine? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree delete Jobar's Big Ol' Headache Medicine as well> 19:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Delete it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 23:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I feel that there're *way* too many pages like this devoted to a minor, one-shot joke. And even a few devoted to *background objects*. I think a general concensus is gonna need to be reached on what to do with these pages. Like Qermaq said, why delete this one and keep so many other near identical pages? I know some people here are against "merging", but there probably *should* be table pages for minor items like this. It just seems more practical than having a whole page with only two lines of text for an item only seen once or twice. Just my two cents worth. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 00:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I say anything that has only one occurrence can be placed on a table page until it makes a second appearance, so in this case the minor foods page should include all pertinent information. Same with a lot of other things (Decemberween gifts, generic backgrounds, etc.) If these things reappear then there is a solid argument for giving them a page. (Although I also think that we do need to make sure that all items in the HR Universe are here for "search and seizure" by those of us who think the idea of Coach Z Ale (and the ilk) is cool.) - Ilko Skevüld's Teh C
This page should be either merged into Cold One or the main food and drink page. Though I am a fan of ales myself I agree that there are too many articles about one-shot gags.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 02:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
But articles about one-shot gags are what we do best. --DorianGray
True enough. I've even done one myself, but that one had a little more content than this. That being said, I honestly don't mind short articles like this all that much. Should be a category for 'em: One-Shot Gags.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 02:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with DorianGray that one-shot gag articles are part of this wiki, and I don't know why anybody decided to target this one... and a big One-Shot Gags page would be crap. mind flux 03:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge to table along with Jobar's Big Ol' Headache Medicine and similar one-shot product gags. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Delete. It's already listed in a table in Minor Foods. Trey56 02:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why has this not come up yet?

A good 60% of this article is simply describing the picture...which is ALREADY to the right...Throw the footnotes in with Coach-Z and Time's chuckleworthy enough to be mentioned, but not enough of a gag to need it's own page...

Describing a picture is a good thing, BTW - users who cannot load images or are sight-impaired need this. Still, this would be beter mentioned in combination with other similar items, as I have noted above. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
If it's already in Minor Foods I see no reason not to leave it as a redirect to that page and leaving this talk page. Any objections? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 09:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that's a perfect solution: I'll go ahead and take a few tidbits from this page and put them on the Minor Foods page, and then I think we can turn this into a redirect. Trey56 19:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Done. The only thing I'm not entirely happy about is that the redirect takes you to the top of Minor Foods, instead of the part of the page about Coach Z Ale, but this might just be the way that redirects work. Trey56 20:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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