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[edit] Revamped For the '90s

Is it worth mentioning that a 90s-revamp of "Teen Girl Squad" was also proposed in "Pay Plus"? BBG 04:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I mentioned it. TheLupineOne 14:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

And I reworded it. They aren't the same types of revamps, but the exact quote was still used. BBG 15:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Transcript

Loud music + quiet singer = WIKI EDIT WAR HORROR SHOW.

I propose we do some discussion here of particulars, before we take our edits to the page. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Not revamped for the '90s

I don't hear "revamped" or anything even remotely like it. I hear a definite long A/short E sound, which fits with "Is there", as I originally transcribed it, and I don't hear the "Re" one used claimed they were sure of. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 04:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I also hear "is there" unfortunately, as revamped sort of fits better. — Defender1031*Talk 04:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I never said it didn't fit better. Just that I don't hear it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 04:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Revamped/Is there

I hear "revamped". It seems to me that there is a distinct "p" sound in there. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

As stated above, I don't hear anything that sounds even remotely similar to "revamped". I hear "Is there". --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 04:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I disagree; I think I here a long E/short A sound, the reverse of what Jay says. That would fit "revamped". --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Not only does the vowel as I hear it not agree with you, but I also hear a clear "Z" sound before it, and an "R" sound after, as in "Is there". (The "TH" sound being slurred in is normal for English.) --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 04:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I hear "revamped". Or at least, I hear that a lot more than I do "is there", for largely the same reasons as SMB. Heimstern Läufer 04:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I hear something in between the V and the Z sounds, X maybe? jk but i'm not sure whether i hear a Z or a V there. i'm leaning towards the Z. as for the vowels, long E as in "Cheat" first and then A as in "Bad", "Mad", or "Sad". if i try to hear "is there", it sounds wrong. i hear the "Re" at the beginning of the word that i mentioned earlier. no idea what comes after that. so putting all this together, let's see...re-zamped? that doesn't mean anything though. i don't think anything fits. that probably means i'm wrong. though if it is a V, revamped works just fine. The Knights Who Say Ni 04:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
After listening to it again about 5 times, i too heard "Revamped" Spongeboy541 04:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm listening and listening and listening. On two computers with different speakers. With my nice high-quality headphones. It simply does not sound like "revamped". It has none of the correct sounds. It's two syllables, and that's all the similarity I hear. "Is there", "is there", "is there". It's all I hear! --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 07:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
To me, it sounds like PREPARE for the nineties. Which is what I thought it was the first time I heard it this morning. To me, it's definitely not "revamped", and "is there" really makes no freakin' sense! kyojikasshu 01:12, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree with Kyojikasshu. There is a loud and clear syllable which I can hear and can clarify it sounds like "air". Which leads me to assume the word is Prepare. --Record307 Talk/Contribs 01:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
"Prepare" is definitely closer to what I hear, but this is why "is there" is what occurred to me: "Everybody is there for the nineties". Notice that I never put a punctuation mark on the last "Everybody" (and whoever changed it to "revamped" did not think to put it on.) I still hear "is there", but I'd be far more willing to compromise with "prepare". --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 01:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
And now that it's been pointed out to me, I can force myself to hear "prepare". I simply cannot force myself to hear "revamped". So, yeah, I'm not complaining if that's where the consensus goes. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 01:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
You're not alone, Jay. I hear "is there", as well. I suppose it could be "prepare", but I didn't hear any "P" sound. And in no way, shape, or form can I hear "revamped". -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 06:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I actually hear "Revamp" instead of Revamped. Not prepare, Revamp.--70.176.220.156 17:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I think everyone is getting confused because it basically says, "eez there for the 90's" which is why everyone hears re, although I have no clue where they get vamped from. That doesn't even make sense. Someone should run it through a language analyzer thingamajig.
This whole thread is moot now. See #Official word below. — It's dot com 05:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Edgy and angry ???

I hear "edgy and angry ? deadly and dangly," but that's a wild stab. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Upon listening again, I agree with this (er, "jangly", which is what was added to the page; I didn't notice you said "dangly"). --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 04:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I hear "Edgy and angry, so zesty and tangy". 96.227.116.129 03:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok. This is what I hear: Ev'rybody E-e-e-ev'rybody is there for the nineties, so much more exciting--Punching albums and lots of lighning (this one still doesn't make sense)--Edgy and angry, so zesty and tangy. There's new demographics when nobody asked for it.
That doesn't even make sense, let alone sound like what they're saying. — Defender1031*Talk 17:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] ? new demographics

I hear "with new demographics," but that sort of "oomph" the singer put in there kind of makes almost any word seem reasonable. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Remember, demographics are the WATCHERS, not the CONTENT... I think "There's" is the best option, but not sure. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 04:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Official word

Recently, we had a brief communication with the Chaps regarding the toon loading problems we're having. During the exchange they took the opportunity to help us out with this toon's lyrics. This edit is based on information provided directly from them. Tom can confirm. — It's dot com 02:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I confirm. -- Tom 02:59, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Oooooookay. That is the most long-A-short-E-sounding-est alleged short-A I have heard in my life. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 05:39, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Both of the things fixed above have been further confirmed with the release of Main Page 26. — It's dot com 17:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I was right! Huzzah!

[edit] Right Now?

I hear "E-e-e-everybody but you!", not E-e-e-everybody right now!" --SBE-mail Checker Dan 01:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

The lyrics have been officially confirmed as-is. --DorianGray 01:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
No, just the "So zesty and tangy" part. --SBE-mail Checker Dan 01:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
"As for Xeriously Forxe lyrics, the wiki is right about everything (it is revamped for the nineties) except the 'so deadly and jangly' should be 'so zesty and tangy.'" — It's dot com 01:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Care to explain the quote, Dot Com? Perhaps some REAL confirmation. It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that I'm the kind of guy that needs true proof before believes something. (On an unrelated note, I'm not completely convinced about the sbemail136 alternate version things, either) --SBE-mail Checker Dan 01:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Then you probably never will be. The previous thread, including Tom's reply, is all I have to say about that. — It's dot com 01:54, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
That only confirmed "zesty and tangy" and "revamped for the nineties". Nothing on "Everybody 'but you'/'right now'" --SBE-mail Checker Dan 01:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
He said "the wiki is right about everything" else. — It's dot com 02:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
In that case, I am convinced. --SBE-mail Checker Dan 02:07, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Invisicomments

Now that New Stuff and Main Page 26 have also confirmed the correct lyrics, can we remove the invisicomments from the transcript? RickTommy (edits) 02:00, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

They're not hurting anything, and they could yet be helpful. It's certainly not worth the edit it would take to remove them. — It's dot com 02:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

[edit] With and without "www"

Is it worth mentioning that for a while www.homestarrunner.com showed this whereas homestarrunner.com was still the Index Page?

It's possible that you were looking at a cached version of the sans-www page for a while. It's unlikely that the two pages would differ. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually, they're two different URIs, so they very well can differ, though usual practice is to have them both point to the same location. However, if maintenance is being done or something goes awry, they can point to different locations, including invalid ones.
No. Cause it shows it with and with www on my end. Spongeboy541 04:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, *now* it does. That's why I said "for a while".

[edit] Visuals

Are the visuals gonna be added? RickTommy talk 05:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Most likely, someone will eventually create a separate page, per our standards. Unrelatedly, do you have a colon before the template name of your signature in your preferences? Your entire signature is being copied into the talk page, instead of just the standard template. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 05:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] SWF (for mirror)

I xaved the XWF for when thix getx taken down bij the Brotherx Chapx. Dagoth 07:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Me too, but I bet they link to it somewhere. — It's dot com 07:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Not working

It's not playing for me. Flash file is, but when i go to www.homestarrunner.com, it doesn't work... Open Source Greg (Talk | contribs) 08:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC) (left unsigned)

[edit] Screengrabs

Can someone get screengrabs of the 12 HSR Xeriouxly Forxe characters (inc. Still Homsar) for a Xeriouxly Forxe Characters page?

Seems like a good Minor Character Variations. I'll get to work on it. StrongAwesome 14:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Or.....maybe i won't. For some reason, I can't create new pages, including uploading files. Though I have no idea why, it's probably because it's April Fools Day and they don't want people making nonsense pages. Just a guess. StrongAwesome 15:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Stylized Characters would be more appropriate (and just a single grab is necessary!) wbwolf (t | ed) 15:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] No one likes Still Homsar

At the end, when H. Star and S. Bad are talking, I don't see Still Homsar. Is that worth noting? Spongeboy541 14:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

He's right in the bottom-right corner, just slightly peeking out. StrongAwesome 14:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, hiding behind Pom. TheLupineOne 15:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i saw him after watching it again. Spongeboy541 16:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Ganon

S. Sad looks like Ganon. StarFox 15:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

No, not really. — Defender1031*Talk 15:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
This is Ganon.

Ganon_tp.jpg

StarFox 15:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, thank you. He doesn't look like that, just a stylized elephant. Further, this is making fun of the early 90s and that's beast ganon, from twilight princess, which came out around 16 years too late for that. — Defender1031*Talk 15:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I also think S. Sad resembles an A Link to the Past character, sorta kinda, although not Ganon. — It's dot com 16:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
May I ask which one? Closest I see is the Armos Knight. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking more this guy: Hylian2.gif But I admit the resemblance isn't as strong as it was in my memory before I looked it up. — It's dot com 19:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] 90s

How can it be "revamped for the 90s" when the animation used has only been popular since 2000? StarFox 15:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I think you're taking it a mite seriously. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Considering TBC's obsession with 80s references, what can we say? kyojikasshu 01:15, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Exactly; 2000-2009=1980-1989, so 2010=1990. ...But I still can't find x. Where did I put it...? --Raddaluigi 22:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Two references

Two things this April Fool's Prank lampoons are the mid-2000s cartoon Loonatics Unleashed, which took beloved Looney Toons characters and "edged them up" in a similar fashion. However these kind of "hardcore" re-imaginings can lay the blame at mid-90s cartoons and comic books, which is why there's so many X's in the title. (X-men, X-Force, Weapon X, Megaman X, etc.) (New Guy)

Exactly why I keep shooting down all the Loonatics references. While, yes, they did do this, they were neither the only nor the first, and given the nineties references and all the X's, it's not even the best fit. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I did have a general explanation of the parody, but it was removed by IDC because it "explained the joke". wbwolf (t | ed) 20:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
"Revamped for the nineties! So much more exciting! New demographics when nobody asked for it!" What do we need to explain? It's all there in the lyrics. — It's dot com 21:04, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I think you should at least make reference to it in the Fun Facts... at least? -Mitchell00 01:41, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I still don't think this needs explaining, although I admit it's a little better with the addition of the link to TV Tropes. — It's dot com 12:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
If there's somewhere else to hang the link, I wouldn't mind it being removed. --DorianGray 12:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I also think it's more of a direct reference to Loonatics myself. The finalized artwork for the series has the "pointy elbows" that the song references. It's also, I think, the only time a regular funnyman-type cartoon got such a drastic "superhero" revamp. (New Guy)

[edit] Always goes to Main Page 21

Every time I've watched this toon, it's gone to Main Page 21: Many Green Lines! Is this worth mentioning? Other toons have done this too, like the halloween toons that link to Main Page 7: Dead as a doornail! [[1]]

It's already mentioned in the transript. — Defender1031*Talk 04:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Is this Main Page of any signifigance to April Fools' Day? It seems odd that they'd do this without a reason.--Jellote wuz here 20:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
It's because of the 90s... I guess.

[edit] the homestarrunner.com homepage no longer shows this.

It changed back to normal around 4:30 PM AEDST.

i've still got it -TKWSN 05:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
It just went away a second ago for me. Shine Sprite (complain) 05:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
okay, i just lost it. when i hit the refresh button. -TKWSN 05:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Watch link

The "watch" link above the screenshot currently goes to homestarrunner.com, but the toon has been moved to http://www.homestarrunner.com/aprilfool10.html 66.51.249.18 17:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

That's already been fixed. Just before you posted, actually. — It's dot com 17:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] 666

I can't see any relation between the framerate and the Number of the Beast. StarFox 18:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Not framerate. Number of frames. The toon has exactly 666 frames in it, extended from 645 for apparently no reason. — Defender1031*Talk 18:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
My mistake. I'm just wondering why the number of frames has to do with Satan. StarFox 03:26, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
The toon appears to have been intentionally lengthened to have that many frames. The viewer is redirected to main page 21 around frame 649, if I remember correctly. 66.51.249.18 04:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
In the Book of Revelation in the Bible, the devil's number (or rather, the beast's number) is said to be 666. No one is sure what this means, though. Shine Sprite (complain) 04:26, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Hm. That number of frames (especially for no reason) is pretty edgy, don't you think? Come to think of it, it's literally unnecessarily edgy.

[edit] Widescreen

Is it worth mentioning that when the screen changes to the new 90s thing, it goes into widescreen? Answer in full and complete answernteces...-ers.

Yes. In the transcript if not elsewhere. — It's dot com 04:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Variations?

Should we have a page for the variations that appear in this toon, like for Halloween Toons or different town. Seeing how everyone has a variation, the page could work. --Jellote wuz here 01:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

We have one in the process of being created. I don't know how anyone would be able to find it, however, seeing as there is no link to that article from Xeriouxly Forxe's article. I had better find a good place to put a link. Shine Sprite (complain) 01:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Loonatics Unleashed

This toon reminds me of the revamp Warner Bros tried to give to the Looney Toons with Loonatics Unleashed in 2005. The main characters were re-imagined in a futurist, anime style. The lines in the Xeriouxly song that remind me of the Loonatics are "Pointy elbows and lots of lightning! Edgy and angry, so deadly and jangly!There's new demographics When nobody asked for it!"

(Sorry, didn't see this discussed above already)

That was my first thought as well, but it's not the only example. The current compromise of linking to the TVTropes page works well. wbwolf (t | ed) 05:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Verb vs noun

Read these and tell me which is correct:

The visor robot malfunctions and explodes.
The visor robot malfunction and explodes.

The verb form has an s at the end. Think verb vs. noun, not singular vs. plural. You would be correct if, say, the visor robot had a malfunction, since in that case it's a noun, and an -s suffix would indicate plurality (though would also require additional grammatical alterations, since "a" indicates singularity.)

So you can stop reverting this one, DeFender1031.

I reverted once, saw the message when i was unreverted, and haven't touched it since. I don't know why you feel the need to throw this in my face. I had no intention of touching it again. For the record, when I read it before reverting, the word "when" registered as "for" in my mind for some reason. — Defender1031*Talk 22:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
You reverted it twice, after I changed it the first time, then again when I undid it. No offense was intended and I apologize if any was taken, I just wanted to bring it up just in case. You can feel free to remove this entire section if you wish. -Payphone Ed [NSI]
Um, no. the history shows that you fixed it then I reverted it then StrongAwesome undid my revert explaining why it was right, and nothing since then. — Defender1031*Talk 23:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm guessing that what happened was that NSI misinterpreted an edit conflict or something. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 23:45, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Songs Category ?

I think that this should be under the "Songs" category.Anybody?

It's a toon, not a song, no-name. --Essence of Ghost Water 23:40, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Well,is a Toon with a song during the whole thing,except for the dialogue in the end,so I'm still thinking that should be in songs category.--No hay nick libre 21:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Like he said, it's a toon, not a song. --209.148.176.136 20:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
A number of toons are also songs. When a song makes up the majority of the toon, it gets put in Category:Songs irredisregardless. --DorianGray 13:27, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I think of those videos as "music videos", because that's what they are. Does Xeriously Forxe look like a music video? No. --209.148.176.136 13:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
What is a theme song but just another kind of music video? --DorianGray 13:43, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
As Dorian pointed out it is indeed a song and there is much precedence for tagging this video as such. (Note how the transcript even mentions "SINGERS".) There is no reason to remove that tag from this article. --Stux 14:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree we should put it under songs. its kinda like a music video. SteakStyles

[edit] 12 Main Characters

If i'm not wrong,this is the first time when all the 12 main characters get variations.Maybe it's worthy for the article--No hay nick libre 13:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Except that Homsar doesn't actually get a variation. Heimstern Läufer 13:54, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I think that the joke is that Homsar does get a variation,only that looks just like the original one.Besides,it's listed in the Xeriouxly Forxe Characters Variations page--No hay nick libre 17:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Still Homsar is a variation, in that the change is not changing. If he's listed there, he's got to be listed here as well.--Jellote wuz here 19:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
"Variation" requires that something varies, i.e., differs. No difference = no variation. There's no variation here. It's listed on the variations page because it's a notable exception. Heimstern Läufer 23:28, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Still Homsar is Still just Homsar. It's just saying his name in a different way. --Still Homsar 13:39, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
How about this?
  • If we can count Still Homsar as a variation,this is the first time all 12 main characters are variated--No hay nick libre 16:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Armless ch8t

Re: this removal and edit summary: So, why is this irrelevant? The pattern is indeed of armless characters getting visible arms, and in one place, that pattern is reversed. That seems highly relevant and interesting to me. Someone care to explain the irrelevance? Heimstern Läufer 00:33, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, as I said in the summary, it doesn't fit the pattern. The Cheat is the only character that loses his arms (or seems to; I'm not completely convinced that he actually does). Why is this fact even notable when there is no reverse pattern? — It's dot com 00:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
If there is a pattern of X to Y going on, then in one and only one case, there is a Y to X pattern, it's a notable difference from the general pattern. It's notable not as a member of a pattern, but as a contrast to a pattern. The one point I will grant you is that I've wondered if ch8t actually does have no visible arms; those, umm, points? make it possible he still has them. Heimstern Läufer 00:55, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
The original fact was added by me, including Ch8t's lack of limbs, so of course I'm perfectly fine with it being listed. I really have nothing more to add beyond what Heimi said, though. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 02:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Heimstern: I see your point, and while in general I agree with it, I think I'd agree with it more in this case if we were sure he'd lost his arms. Since we're not sure, including the extra bit kinda muddies the waters of the fact (more than we already do with the "except for Homsar" bit). In addition, because Ch8t resembles the Cheatball, an armless form just seems "right" and isn't notable to me as part of the other pattern. — It's dot com 04:02, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I can see your points, but they seem a bit subjective, particularly the Cheatball part. Could we get some other opinions here? I don't think a consensus is going to emerge with the existing parties. Heimstern Läufer 13:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with both of you: I do see a Y to X pattern, but I'm not sure if ch8t even lost his arms. --209.148.176.136 13:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


[edit] Possibly not just a refrence to all these cartoon revamps

It could also be a refrence to how Youtube is changing everything, and ruining it. This came out the same day as Youtube's permanent switch to the new layout, and a few months before there was a preview of the new layout.

Except that this has nothing to do with layout, and everything to do with animation and plot style, and it makes explicit reference to the phenomenon of the 90s. In other words, no, it's not all that possible that it refers to youtube. — Defender1031*Talk 14:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't see anything in the lyrics that points to YouTube specifically, although I get how it could apply to anything getting an "edgy" revamp. I don't see YouTube's changes as particularly edgy, though. --Garfunkel 14:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Bushes

I noticed the bushes look alot more bush-like in the beginning while usually I see then as giant green balls.

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