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[edit] Star

Does anyone think that homestar ripping off his star could be a reference to Marshmallow's Last stand, where Strong Bad steals it from him?

No. —BazookaJoe 03:00, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • I think it could be. That's what I thought when I first saw it. ——Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif

[edit] Jacket

Maybe it is just me, but where the transcript says "And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket." I keep hearing "And Coach Z would wear a schooljacket". Does anyone agree?

I do, and I don't think it's a matter of opinion as atleast the mp3 version of the song goes "would wear a schooljacket" - 212.94.80.106

Would a listen of the DVD version where John Linnell sings the song help any? -- Tom 06:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Probably, as I'll admit the distinction is (after listening to it about 20 times or so) small. - 212.94.80.106
I just listened to the John Linnell version and it's definitely "this cool jacket" — Exhibit A 19:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Acknowledged. - 212.94.80.106
The whole thing also comes down to: Coach Z is not wearing any sort of school jacket in that scene. --It's Jay Times! (tines) 05:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Over-linking

Every instance of a character’s name does not need a link. Linking the first mention of the name or place is sufficient. Drhaggis 16:15, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

Yes, I agree. This needs to be clear from the start. I think there's something about it in the Help section. -- Tom 16:30, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

[edit] First Shirt?

Strong Bad wears a shirt in stand-up.--Hysterical Woman 16:20, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

That was Lil' Strong Bad. Seek Bar

[edit] Over-sensitive referencing?

Is the "fourteenth song" really an explicit reference to a particular performance by a particular band? Doesn't every band introduce their songs that way upon ocassion? - ehsteveistaken

I deleted it at one point because I felt that it wasn't a reference, but hey, it's back now. Bye bye... - pacdude


"funny pronunciation", eh? Hah! Those funny Germans. They're so funny! And rubbish! God bless America. --195.92.67.75

[edit] Baal

Given the game is on a floppy and the propensity of TBC for vintage games Baal is more likely a ref to the 1989 Dos/Amiga/Commodore 64 game. See Floppy Disk Container for details. - Dr Haggis - Talk 17:39, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Closed STUFF

These were on the STUFF page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

[edit] Beastie Boys (Declined)

"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [1] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

  • Comment I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
  • Decline. Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --TheEggman 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • "Second." --Aussie Evil 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --AwesomeSauce 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --tomstiff 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
    • Second. --Joshua 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Secondinated!!! --blakyoshi7 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Two'd! Rudeboy87 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • 2nd. ("Two'd". Rudeboy is now my hero!) Kvb 06:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Actually the voice at the beginning of the Beastie Boys' Check Your Head belongs to Robin Zander of Cheap Trick; it's a sample from the band's live album At Budokan. (Zander was introducing the song "Surrender," the first track on Heaven Tonight.) — 71.136.230.120 (Talk | contribs) 03:52, 2 January 2007 (left unsigned)


[edit] Make a hole with a fun fact

The rhythm of Strong Bad's email song is taken from the They Might Be Giants song Ana Ng – the first time is the same as the rhythm part under the verse, and the second time is this and the vocal rhythm mixed together.

Posted on: 17:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 13:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly accepted, 17–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/different town.

[edit] First Song on Our STUFF'd Album

Strong Bad introduces his next song in the same manner that Cheap Trick frontman Robin Zander famously introduced "Surrender" on their landmark album Live at Budokan: "This is the first song off our new album!"

Posted on: 21:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 01:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined, 12–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/different town.

[edit] No Soup for You!!

The Cheat pouring hot soup on Homestar's eyes is a reference to the HBO Series OZ, Episode 305; U.S. Male, where this is done to inmates Poet and Pierce. This episode aired on 7/28/1999.

NOTE: This item applies to both New Boots and different town.

Posted on: 00:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Closed: 04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 17–2. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/New Boots.

[edit] That field...

Um, in the football fields page, it says that the football field is in this e-mail, but the field that Homestar calls it quits in is really not like the normal football field, what do you think? --Dinoshaur 15:38, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Real World References

The OZ reference that you all keep deleting is legitimate. Please see New Boots. Follow the links, Google it, or watch the show.

  • I'm also familiar with this show. Why is it that this reference was dis-allowed? -B 06:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Sounds like coincidence to me. STUFF it if you think otherwise. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 08:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pink spiky hair

Pink spiky hair?

I have loaded the SWF into a decompiler in an attempt to verify the "secret" fun fact currently listed in the article (which needs to be moved to a real category). I can't find the pink spiky hair anywhere, just Marzipan's big yellow mane. Can anyone verify that the pink hair really exists and that we're not actually seeing fanstuff here? — It's dot com 08:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Confirmed. It's there. --phlip TC 05:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Try double clicking the mane and delete part of it. You'll see the mohawk.-stuntman021

It doesn't work... :-(
If you aren't in a Flash decompiler, of course not. If you are using one, there's not reason why it shouldn't. — Lapper (talk) 20:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bust of or busted'?

I hear busted Bubo, not bust of bubo-- Benol, aka Coach B 21:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I distinctly hear the "uh" sound in "of". Strong Sad's mouth moves more in the way of "of" rather than "ed". --SaltyTalk! 21:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The Bubo item in the "fast forward" for the DVD - should it be moved to the "fast forward" for the email itself? Qermaq 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linnell version

I have an mp3 of the Linnell version that I bought off a seedy looking guy in the alley behind Kroger late at night that I'm willing to send to anybody who wants it for $5. (In reality, I sent a guy I met on a message board I found searching Google for the mp3 a Gmail invite for it, and I'm willing to send it to anybody who wants it for free.) — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 07:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Entering email song "Check your Email and Check your Email"

This is actualy an vesion of They Might be Giants song "Ana Ang" off of the Lincoln CD. No one ever realized it yet. - Sirbob

Really? How does the Ana Ang song go? Bluebry 02:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
There's a brief clip at Amazon. Listen in a bit, to the rhythm section parts. There's a definite similarity. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 05:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
They're similar only in that they are heavily syncopated. The rhythms are actually quite different if you compare them in detail (unless I'm comparing it with the wrong part... from that clip Qermaq posted, would the line "All alone at the '64 world's fair" be the rhythm you're talking about?) --phlip TC 12:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't hear any lyrical comparison at all, but listen to the rhythm section parts under the vocals "All alone at the '64 World's Fair/Eighty dolls yelling "Small girl after all"". The chunk-y rhythm they're playing is identical to the "check--your e--mail--and check--your--e--mail" pattern - the inspiration for the email song? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 16:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how familiar you are with musical notiation, and I'm too lazy to make some, so here's some timeline ASCII art:

 -   *   *   *   -   *   *   * | -   *   -   *   -   *   -   *
    All  a-lone     at  the six  -   ty  -  four  World's  fair
 -   *   *   *   -   *   *   * | -   *   -   *   -   -   *   *
   Eigh-ty dolls   yel-ling "Small  girl    af     -    ter all."

 *   -   *   *   -   *   -   * | *   -   *   -   *   -   *   -
Check   your e   -  mail    and check   your     e   -  mail.
 *   -   *   *   -   *   -   * | *   -   *   -   *   -   *   -
Check   your e   -  mail    and check   your     e   -  mail.
   (Check   your e   -  mail    and check   your     e   -  mail.)

(stars indicate eighth-notes with notes on them, hyphens indicate eighth-note rests). The rhythms are rather different - in particular, the "'64 World's fair" bit is off the beat, whereas the second "check your email" bit is on the beat. Interspersing regular rhythms in a syncopated piece is reasonably common (it's a little thing called contrast), Ana Ng is hardly the only song to do it... --phlip TC 16:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

No, no, no. Read my post. The word rhythm is very different. I'm comparing the rhythm of the "check your email" to the RHYTHM SECTION PART under the vocals in that spot. Not the lyrics. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 17:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Let me demonstrate.
 -   *   *   *   -   *   *   * | -   *   -   *   -   *   -   *  (lyrics rhythm)
    All  a-lone     at  the six  -   ty  -  four  World's  fair (lyrics)
 *   -   *   *   -   *   -   * | *   -   *   -   *   -   *   -  (rhythm section rhythm)
Check   your e-     mail    and  check  your     e-     mail    (let's all sing along!)

See? I'm not saying this is necessarily notable enough to go over there on the page, but it's certainly a striking... striking thing. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 17:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, you're right! Wow, I didn't notice that... Ordinarily I'd chalk it up to coincidence, but there is already a heavy TMBG influence in this email... Hmm... I'm gonna take it to STUFF. --phlip TC 17:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3 (thousand) is clearly a smaller number than a million

Depending on just how narrow the box filled with peas is, and based on the diameter of a pea compared to the width of the box, it would only hold around 3000 to 8000 peas. (Props to Phlip for most of the math on this one.) — It's dot com 05:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: The following post contains large amounts of mathematics and geometry, which may be dangerous to your health. Persons who are of the faint-of-heart are advised not to read further. Side-effects include confusion, nausea, and disorientation.

On the blown-up full-screen version I have on my screen, a pea is 28 pixels in diameter, and the front of the box is 515 pixels wide and 484 pixels tall, or 18.4x17.3 pea-diameters (henceforth abbreviated as "pd"). I see the box as about cuboid, with a depth of about 18pd, It's dot com sees it as significantly shorter (because there's fewer planks and based on the width of the box's frame), about 6pd (hence the 3000-8000 range in It's dot com's post). An individual pea has a radius of ½pd (of course), so its volume is (4/3)πr³ = 0.52pd³. The size of the box if it's near-cube is 18.4x17.3x18 = 5667pd³. The packing efficiency of spheres is about 75% (meaning that when you fill a box with spheres, about 25% is empty space) so only about 4258pd³ actually contains peas. Divide that by 0.52pd³, getting a bit over 8000 peas. If you say the box is 6pd deep, then you get closer to 3000 peas. However, this is taking into account the rather large size of the peas in the box... given a much smaller pea, a more realistic 7mm-diameter pea (or ¼") has a volume of 180mm³, a million taking 180,000,000mm³, or 240,000,000mm³ after the packing efficiency. This is the volume of a cube 620mm along each side, or about 24 inches – quite a bit smaller than the KoT's box (so a box that you could fit the KoT in could easily hold many more than a million peas). NB: All of this is not counting the space taken up by the King of Town himself, but as Tom pointed out, the label on the box just says that at one time it held a million peas. It doesn't have to have that amount in there now that the KoT is in there. Also, this uses the 75% packing efficiency of spheres, which is for a regular close-packing arrangement, for a more reasonable random arrangement you'd get for just pouring peas into a box, it'd be significantly less. --phlip TC 06:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 :D —FireBird|Talk 11:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is it...

This song was available for download but the songs from montage weren't? Do they just pick them at random? --Gerkuman 18:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it's coz this one was a collab with They Might Be Giants. --DorianGray

[edit] Song lyrics

Are you sure Strong Bad doesn't say "his cool jacket" instead of "this cool jacket"? -Jimmy91 18:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Very sorry for bringing up this post that was over a year old, but I was just going to ask the same question before I saw that it has already been asked, but not answered. I personally hear "his cool jacket" not "this cool jacket." (Even when I listen to the DVD version of it). —Guard Duck talk 05:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh. I always thought that he said "The school jacket" I think "His cool jacket" makes more sence than "This cool jacket", but that is just my opinion. --Philip8o

[edit] Place

I don't know which side of the argument I agree with regarding if the proper grammer for stongbad's quote at the end is correct or not. I can see the argument that it is incorrect because the easter egg makes it seem like it refers to a location (such as a city/state) called place. Thus it should be "I gotta go to Place." While it can also be argued that it could be like "home" where the "to" is not needed. . .I though would tend to say that the grammer is incorrect. Either way though. . . - Ilko Skevüld's Teh C 01:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I tend to think of it as forgetting or deliberately leaving off the "s" at the end of "places," if, of course, he wasn't trying to be vague, as he usually is when it comes to getting out of embarrassing or otherwise awkward situations.

[edit] Glitch?

I dunno if it's just me and my speakers, but there appears to be a cut betewn "he'd look like a idiot basketball" and "one, two, one two (part with hot homsar)". Does anyone else notice this? -EMOBUBS 21:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Let there be recessed lighting

This is actually half true. Based on the light on the wall and floor, and the shadow of the chair, the light is more or less directly above SB. SB is shaded as if the light is coming from the top right, and SS is shaded as if the light is coming from the top left. Kind of in-between them. From the top. If we forget about SB's shading and assume that it always looks as if the light is coming from the top right... then we should look at the shadows on the wall and the floor, which show that the light is right above SB. All in all, I don't think it's notable enough to be mentioned in the article. Loafing 23:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My?

I could've sworn I heard "stupid baby brother" not "my stupid baby brother." Can any one shed some light on this mystery? --Platinum789hi 01:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Nah, it's definitely "my". It's overlapping bubs's line, but it's there. — Defender1031*Talk 01:45, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'll Check to make sure. --Platinum789hi 22:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it's there. Although, it's kinda faint because of the overlapping sound. Thanks much! --Platinum789hi 22:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] DWAYNE!

Is it me or does Strong Bad look smaller than usual when standing next to Strong Sad? Geonightman 01:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Check your Email With Two E's

So it's been confirmed that the intro song is based on Ana Ng. Now here's something else to consider. Strong Bad has two rhythms going at once. If you listen closely, the first one is

Check your email and check your email

but the second one is

Check your email and check your e-email

And this actually makes perfect sense, compared to Ana Ng.

"Check your email and check your email" has nine syllables. "All alone at the Sixty-Four World's Fair" has ten syllables, making the second "e" necessary to match the rhythm of the lyrics.

- all    a     lone  - at    the  six    - ty   - four - world's - fair
- check  your  e     - mail  and  check  - your - e    - e       - mail

If you listen to the intro without trying to separate the two tracks, you'll hear three consecutive "e"s towards the end. The first and last "e" are from the second track ("all alone"), while the middle "e" is from the first track (the guitar riff).

Slow down the email, mash the audio up with Ana Ng, whatever you choose - you'll hear an extra "e". -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 15:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Modestly hot my eye

Odd title, thanks to Google:

[2]

The actual page doesn't have that title, as it just has the typical "Compy 386!!". Is this typical? I tried with another one (lunch special) and just got the name of the sbemail.

Atari 05:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

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