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Homestar Water Container

Does anyone want to have some fun and guess how Homestar got in there.I think... hmm what do I think umm I don't know what I think never mind. Austio talk 06:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Chuck Norris - Volbeat A The Cheat 06:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, he was in Barbados, hanging a picture on the wall... -YK 06:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Naturally he met a witch doctor who asked him where he spends most of his time, and he said in the water cooler...

Or even better, take this to the forum thread. Loafing 06:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyone have any idea what Barbados has to do with a water cooler? Very odd. I feel like there HAS to be a joke there that I'm not getting. I mean why does that one partial sentence tell SB all he needs to know?? Is this a movie reference maybe?

I think it's just completely random. SB knew that Homestar was about to tell him some completely untrue and nonsensical story, so he stopped him right there... Trey56 11:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok maybe it's really completely random, but just for the sake of it I'll try. Homestar was in Barbados, hanging a picture on the wall of a bathroom. Much like Doc in Back to the Future when he was hanging a clock on the wall, he was standing on the toilet while doing it, but since it's Homestar, he didn't think of closing the lid. He slipped, fell in the toilet, and flushed himself on the way. He then went through a maze of pipes and ended up in the water cooler in the office. It almost make sense, no?

Water coolers aren't connected by pipes. They're just jugs of water with levers to siphon it out.

But these jugs of water have to be filled with water at some point... usually using pipes!

Yeah, but those pipes aren't connected to them at all. Those jugs are delivered full of water. I also don't see the point in discussing how this whole thing is possible. It's obviously not. Loafing 04:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Or how about this one: Homestar was in Barbados, hanging a picture on a wall. He decides to stand in a toilet for no reason. Then he flushes the toilet, taking him through a green pipe. He ends up in a brick room, where he walks through a wall, taking him into the water cooler somehow. Neox ONION BUBS!

Old-Timey Nebulon?

Think this alien could be the Old-Timey Nebulon? Could be!-- »Bleed0range« 07:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, The Homestar Runner doesn't like his style...--Bobo the King 07:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

True, but i expected that 1936 Nebulon would be green (in the easter egg, he's gray) and to be shaped more like him. --Y. Roy 13:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, *all* the Old-Timey characters are in black and white, all the time. Even if they're outside of the Old-Timey dimension, such as 20X6 vs. 1936 and alternate universe. I'd say this is the Old-Timey equivilent of Nebulon. -YK 20:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's possible; I did kind of think about Nebulon (the whole "Because you're a communist fool!" thing seems a bit similar to the "Nobody likes your style!" thing), but I don't think there's quite enough resemblance other than that to say he's definitely supposed to be 1936'd Nebs. - Saturn 13:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not much of a stretch to see that as Neb. But "our" Neb has two eyes and doesn't talk... Not to mention no arms or discernible legs. I'm still going with that being Neb, however. —NFITC1^talk 14:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Strong Bad tells nebulon that noone likes his style. 1-Up tells 20X6 Nebulon that no one likes his style. So, it's be legit that The Homestar Runner would tell 1936 Nebulon that noone likes his style. Also, he has no similar shape to him, Homestar says he's RED, and whne homestar says "Because you're a communist fool!" to him, he doesn't make the noise. Or any noise. --Young Roy

"Red" is just a nickname because he's a Commie, though. Or something like that. --DorianGray

There are marked differences between pretty much ALL of the present-day characters and their Old-Timey counterparts. Examples: The Homestar Runner is more intelligent, Old-Timey Bubs is (or seems) really old, Sickly Sam (Strong Sad) is dead, and Fat Dudley (Pom Pom) sings instead of making bubbly noises. The Sneak (The Cheat) doesn't make any noise at all. So it stands to reason that Old-Timey Nebulon would be quite different than his "present-day" counterpart. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but take a look at Homestar Runner, then at The homestar Runner. They look almost exactly the same. Although Strong Bad and Sir Strong Bad look different, the genral shape is the same. Red (the alien) looks NOTHING like Nebulon. Unless I can get more legit proof than this, case closed. ---Y. Roy 17:40, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Stretch in Real World References

"The Homestar fireworks at the end of the cartoon is a direct sendup from Super Mario Brothers 1 for the Nintendo Entertainment System; you recieved fireworks when you did very well on a level."

Highly unlikely. For one, you got that at the end if you finished at a certain time. Second, lots of things have fireworks at the end. I don't see how this is a referance to SMB more than, say, a political cartoon in which fireworks appear as a patriotical symbol.

I completely agree and removed the fact. Anyone who thinks differently may STUFF it. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 09:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree completely with the Super Mario Bros. reference. That was my take on it. (Sorry if I'm screwing this wiki format up, I'm a newbie)

Frankly, I think that the fireworks in this mail are closer to the fireworks found in either one of the Main Pages or Strong Bad E-Mail #100. But that's about the same kind of stretch, so... Hah hah! ~ Jessica Ingmann 13:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Coulomb's law

...and I thought that I was going to go the rest of my life without ever hearing Coulomb's law again. Oh well. I R F 11:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

That's makes two of us... — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 11:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

On my talk page we already talked about the horrors of Calc, now I have to relive physics again. I never really understood what a Gausian Surface was, but I got the problems correct on the test somehow. I R F 12:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey hey hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, now... physics is cool. Yes, I'm a physicist.--Bobo the King 23:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you teach physics or practice it? I R F 03:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, in a sense we all practice physics every day... - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

re-phrase... Teach? If so HS or college? Practice Research? If so, what's your field? I R F 04:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Still an undergraduate, but I'm hoping to teach it some day. I'm thinking about getting into solar cell design and that kind of stuff. But for now, I have enough to worry about with statistical mechanics.--Bobo the King 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Forgive me for indirectly insulting your passion/future profession; I've always found that while physics is fun to rattle off (and hear other people do this), this past time loses favor as my will to live dives.--The4sword 00:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm just impressed that they stated the law correctly. TBC are pretty smart. --75.194.212.178 04:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that's easy. Just look it up. :) —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

TTATOT Oprah

When homestar started talking about makeovers, did anyone else think that he sounded a little like Oprah? I'm enough people will shout TTATOT, so I'm not even going to bother putting it up. I R F 12:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there are tons of shows like that, once again it's a reference to the whole genre of talk shows, instead of a particular one. Although that chair-throwing is clearly a Jerry Springer, because he is known for his violence. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 12:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Not just the chair throwing but the whole, let's bring on the bad boyfriend thing, which was obviously JS. I R F 12:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The surprise guest is Springer, but the thrown chair if infamously Geraldo.

As is, the fun fact is horribly TTATOT. There's a certain reference to the Today Show logo as noted below, but listing specific programs the "makeover" and "reality talk show" segments refer to is a little much, in my opinion. This could be split into two facts, one a reference to the logo, another to the basic genres of shows being referenced (but not specifics). - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you may have gone a bit too far. The incident where a chair gets thrown at Homestar is almost definitely from Geraldo. It pretty much the single incident most people think of when you mention someone throwing a chair at a reality talk show. NOT mentioning Geraldo in reference to that scene would sound like you'd missed a reference. El Santo

Wasn't it Jenna Jones who had rhyming titles for her shows, like Homestar does when intoducing his guest? Lord-z 19:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

AM

When the show comes on, there is a semi circle. I am certain that it is very close to a 1980's logo for either Good Morning America or a similiar show. Can anyone find it? I R F 12:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found it, it was the old Today show logo. I R F 14:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Transcript

I'm pretty sure that Homestar says "sweet Jesus" after SB tries to get him out of the water cooler, not "sweet genius". Zero.exe 15:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I am certain he said genius. Living the Atlanta, TBC have (very wisely IMO), never overtly made light of religion, and I listened a second time, just to me sure.--Saxon the Deutschmaster 15:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It is "Sweet genius, that huht!!", babe. Though it probably is a take on "Sweet Jesus," which is part of an explitive some people say, blah blah blah. ~ Jessica Ingmann 13:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Old KOT?

The king of town's crown looked like it was in the King of town DVD.

Match Game PM

Could The Show AM be a reference to Match Game PM? Retromaniac 17:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I was thinkin' it was more along the lines of early morning talk shows such as Good Morning America and Today. As IRF said about three subjects ago, the AM logo is the old Today show logo. Also, many things were based on The Jerry Springer Show. -Brightstar Shiner 20:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

When I saw the AM, that was actually the first thing I thought of. (Maybe The Show AM is in syndication :P) --Libertyernie 21:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Just like Limozeen: But They're in Space!! -Brightstar Shiner 01:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Mongolian

This is another reference to a Mongolian Product, such as the Finest Mongolian Aftershave Lotion.--Zonis 17:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Mid-term Election Time??

Does anybody else think it was not just a coincidence that this came out fairly soon after the mid-term elections in the USA? I mean it even has Homestar as the Capitol building. Just putting it out there... Raptor5ix- 00:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think coincidence. I R F 03:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's not just a coincidence; it's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw they were going governmental. Trelawney 05:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The elections are exactly what I thought of. Why else would they make the governmental analogy in this e-mail? It seems out of place otherwise. (Another thought -- are TBC comparing our government to Homestar? Um ... never mind. Let's not go there ...) --Bobsmith84 16:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's obviously about the election. I don't think it is for or against anything, it's just about the government generally, and it was done at this paticular time because of the recent election.

Therefore, I think the page should mention that this was done shortly after the election and link to Wikipedia's article about the election. --_{NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc}  20:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't notice it, and even now that it's mentioned, it seems pretty irrelevant. It boils down to "there was a government in a cartoon around election time, but the cartoon stated nothing/insinuated nothing about the actual government" - I mean, I'm not sure if it's even intentional. Even so, it couldn't hurt to put a link in or at least acknowledge the fact. Anyway, I'm not from the US so maybe it just didn't jump out at me -- Michelle Mabelle 21:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think we should put it here. I am from the US, and I think they did it on purpose. Something like: This toon was released shortly after the mid-term elections in the United States, which might be why TBC chose to mention government. Mine sounded TTATOT, but I just did it off the top of my head. -Brightstar Shiner 22:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Collecting the correct line

Yeah, uh oh, it's me questioning a line in the transcript. Again. Sorry. Okay, anyway, the word "collect"/"correct" may never be fully distinguishable thanks to it being Homestar, but I do not and cannot hear "calls". I hear a distinct M, especially with my good headphones. Sure, maybe "calls collect" makes the most sense, but... this is Homestar. Doing stupid things. --Jay (Gobble) 06:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I also clearly hear an "M". Exhibit A (talk · edits) 16:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

So what are you suggesting, then? "Comes Correct"? --Bobsmith84 18:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I hear "calls collect". — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 18:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Bobsmith: pretty much. As I said, I recognize that it's nonsense, but that's what I hear. And would Homestar saying nonsense really be that unexpected? --Jay (Gobble) 19:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I hear "Comes correct". — ^Sam_{Fisher (Come in, Lambert.)} 15:34, 15 November 2006

For once, I agree with Jay against all reason. It sounds more like "comes correct", even though I want to hear "calls collect".--Bobo the King 00:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I also hear "Comes correct". The phrase is not nonsense, (it sounds odd to me too, but I have heard it used before). A few google queries for reference: [1][2]Bryanc 00:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Bryanc. I definitely hear "comes correct", and since it is rap vocabulary, it also makes perfect sense in the sentence Homestar uses it in. He's also half-rapping, IMHO. Loafing 00:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Communists.....

Is "War of the Worlds" really an example of aliens representing communists? It's about the right time period, but that's the only reason for this as far as I can see, and there's nothing about it on the Wikipedia article, or any of the references to that. If anything it seems to carry the same message as the original book (that however great man's power is we are still dependent on nature). Plus it was hardly likely that the communists were going to all die of a cold..... DumbMuscle 20:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Jolly Dumple = Cast?

Is the Jolly Dumple a cast member? Homestar is not actively portraying this mascot. The costume is being used as a kind of house. I simply don't see how this character is a real cast member. He appears, sure, but the appearance of a costume does not, in my mind, constitute an appearance by the character the costume represents. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  22:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Mascot's cast list says "Homestar Runner as The Jolly Dumple", so since Homestar isn't playing ol' Jolly, it shouldn't be in the cast list. —BazookaJoe 01:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

"Correct" Spanish Form

I am under the impression there technically is no "'correct' Spanish form" for New York, as you are not supposed to translate proper nouns. Shouldn't this be noted in the remark in question, or am I just being an English major again?

Proper nouns get translated all the time. It's true that some words are not translatable, but those that can be tranlated, are translated. Most of the words we use for foreign cities and countries differ (at least slightly) from the local spelling and pronunciation, and in some cases it differs drastically (what we call Germany the Germans call Deutschland). Likewise, English proper nouns are translated into other languages. The United States of America is les États-Unis d'Amérique in French and los Estados Unidos de América in Spanish. — It's dot com 22:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

yes BABY, the whole password

frame 1376 or so, he says baby, im pretty sure. at any rate, it sound more like baby than lady to me, and it would fit the changing pronouns that he uses, ie, maam, sir, baby, etc.

also, could we note somehow in inside references that the work they do at the office consists of trying to get ppl's passwords? csours 04:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I also think he says "baby" and I was just about to make a post on it here. It is rather difficult to tell for sure, but I've watched the toon several times (I just can't get enough of Homestar stuffed into a water cooler!) and each time I listen close to that part. I give it about 70 - 30 in favor of "baby".

Completely agree with "baby". I'm gonna go ahead and change that if it's not reverted immediately.--Bobo the King 15:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm a little surprised, but yes, I hear baby now too. —BazookaJoe 21:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I definitely hear baby. Trey56 21:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Super quick geddup noise

If you have a flash seek bar and 'fast forward' through the email you can hear the super quick geddup noise! Weird...

Yeah, I hear seek bars do all kinds of wierdness... --DorianGray

There's a record scratch in there too. Most toons have at least one sound effect that isn't embedded into the Flash, but is triggered by it. Take virus: Strong Bad crying as he runs back to his Compy. I dunno why they do that though. It must be easier in some way. —BazookaJoe 21:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

theres another one too, around the mascot part of the email...

The record scratch. —BazookaJoe 00:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing that TBC add all the sounds as individual sound bites, and Flash mixes them all together when the .swf file is saved... and every now and again they forget to change one of the clips from "Event" to "Stream"... so it just plays when that frame is reached, rather than being tied directly to the video... something like that, anyways. It'd probably be easier to do this way... they could add or remove parts of the toon without having to remix all of the audio again... Flash would do it all for them. --phlip ^T_C 00:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking too, but I didn't know a whole lot about the technicalities to be confident. —BazookaJoe 00:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Fro-tardent?

Am I the only one who hears "flame fro-tardent" even though pro-tardent makes more sense and is funnier? Yes? I am? Oh, okay then...--Bobo the King 23:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay then. ^_^ —BazookaJoe 23:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

yea i actually do hear fro-tardent but that may be the compression doing that. i think flame thro-tardent would be funnier. csours 00:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thro-tardant? What does that even mean? Protardant is hilarious because it's meant to be the opposite retardant. —BazookaJoe 00:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Communist

Took out remark about how "communist" would not be perceived as an insult before WWII, because that statement is simply untrue.

Why is it untrue? Please give a more detailed reason than this. Heimstern Läufer 06:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I assume the line of thinking is about U.S. relations with the Soviet Union, which were pretty good until the Allies had to divide up the conquered Axis territory. That all fell apart and basically caused the Cold War. That, however, resulted in the second "Red Scare". The first one began shortly after the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in response to fears that a Communist revolution would destroy the American way of life. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 07:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

According to that 'Kipedia article, the "first red scare" ended 1920, about 15 years before the Old-Timey time. Loafing 08:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

That does not suddenly make it not an insult. According to Wikipedia, "As a result of the fear and oppression around the First Red Scare, membership in the Communist Party of the United States and similar Marxist/Communist groups was reduced by some 80 percent." If there was not some negative stigma connected to being labeled a Communist, why would this have happened post-1920? It's a mistake to read the article and assume that everything was all nicey-nicey for 25 years. From Anti-communism:

The 1920s and 30s saw the fading of traditional conservatism. The mantle of conservative anti-communism was taken up by the rising fascist movements on the one hand, and by American-inspired liberal conservatives on the other. Communism remained largely a European phenomenon, so anti-communism was also concentrated in Europe. When communist groups and political parties began appearing elsewhere in the world, such as in China in the late 1920s, their opponents were usually colonial authorities and/or local nationalist movements.

While this paragraph is speaking specifically about European sentiment, note how the anti-communist attitude was inspired by American ideals, which at this point were partly instrumental in transforming the largely monarchial European governments into the democracies we see today. Later in this article, we read how public opposition, even fear, of communism started to occur in the 40's. What history teaches us is that these public hostilities are always preceded by more private beliefs. To state, as this fact does, that the 30's were a "golden window" when there was no negative attitudes toward Communists in the US is simply misguided. That's why I believe the fact should be removed. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  10:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

It's now STUFF'd I R F 15:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Chair Throwing

Shouldn't there be an explanation for when Bad Boyfriend Homestar gets hit by a chair, because I believe it happened on the Jerry Springer Show, that The Show Am parodies. --71.70.221.221 03:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, there was a whole debate about this somewheres... --DorianGray

No, no, no. (Well, yes, that happens on Jerry Springer, but...) I think that was actually a reference to (Thank you, Al!) the old Geraldo Rivera Show, where Mr. Rivera was speaking perfectly normally when someone threw a chair at him and knocked him out. (Al told us that in his commentary for his movie UHF, where a similar thing happened to his character. -WeirdAl (talk · 19:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Nuevo???

I heard it as "Nueva York" just like it's supposed to be. I keep listening and keep hearing it that way. Can I get a witness? Octan 07:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I listened to it several times, and I can't really tell one way or the other since Strong Bad's mumbling. Is it true that "Nueva" York is more correct from a Spanish point of view? Trey56 07:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, "Nueva York" would be more correct than "Nuevo York". —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Soapbox goof

Goof

If you view the .swf file either zoomed in or at a high resolution, you can see that the diagonal lines continue beyond the box, as shown in this picture. Can someone figure out how to incorporate this into the page? Uh...Cwapface 21:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Well spotted, but it's not visible at the intended resolution. So we wouldn't count it as an actual goof that wouldbe mentioned in the article. Loafing 21:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Closed STUFF

Cheese?

I think Larry says "polyhairsprayteasealate". This would make sense, as styling hair is occasionally referred to as teasing it. Since not many are probably watching this discussion to give me the go-ahead, I'll be bold. -- 4.244.36.106 00:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes. It should be tease. It keeps getting changed to cheese for some reason. --DorianGray

I'm sorry, but no matter how many times I listen to it, I can't hear anything other than "cheese". ~ Bruce 04:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I also hear "cheese." It may make sense to be tease, but it also makes sense to be cheese because it's a made up substance and it is on a humorous website. I've been listening to it over and over again for over an hour, and I tried to hear tease then tried to hear cheese. I hear cheese. I heard cheese every time, and the only possible way I could hear tease is to blame the "ch" sound on bad quality sound. 68.183.16.68 12:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I also hear "cheese". Even though "tease" makes more sense, try as I might, I can't make it sound like "tease", there's too much of a hard ch- sound there and not enough t-. I think we might need to ask TBC on this one, uh-rumble? DeFender1031 11:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I very hear "tease"... Tease makes sense since teasing is a method for hairstyling that Limozeen may well use (they are, after all, a hair metal band, the Wikipedia page for that genre mentions teased hair... it's hard to tell from the cartoons). "Cheese" makes no sense in context, other than the stock "it's a non sequitur, so it's funny" explanation, which doesn't really help for "which makes more sense". --phlip ^T_C 11:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Phlip, I agree with you that "tease" definately makes more sense, I just don't hear it. DeFender1031 11:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

The other "t" sounds said by Larry are very distinct. Also, teasing is used to create big hair styles. In the real appearance of Limozeen, they all have long fine hair, and none are very big. In the cartoon, it's half and half. I consistently hear cheese, and while tease may make sense, not everything has to make sense. The fact that is is a non sequitur may very well be the definition. I agree that we may have to ask TBC about it, and in the mean time, why don't we list both on the page as possible choices? 24.136.72.17 1:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

After the Drive-Thru video, it should be clear that just because it makes sense doesn't make it right. Somebody heard "Serve to your right" coming from the whale. It is "sever your leg," but serve to your right makes a million times more sense. The same thing here. It's definately cheese, I'd wager my life on that. 68.183.16.161 2:28, 13 March, 2007 (UTC)

No, "sever your leg" makes more sense, as strong bad quotes it in the next line. You don't have anyone asking about cheesealate here, just a vague reference.

Legalization?

Panama City Beach

I removed the following remark from the article:

The green handprint could also be a reference to "Legalize Marijuana" t-shirts.

After removing it, I did some searching for the image, and I think I found the shirt the contributor was referring to (see right). There definitely is a resemblance, although I don't think it's obvious that it's intentional. Feel free to discuss, if anyone has any input. Trey56 23:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I would be surprised if TBC weren't designing Homestar's shirt based on the Legalize T-shirt. Consider Homestar's deadbeat boyfriend character: he's a pot smoker type. I think this will make a good Fun Fact if worded properly. —BazookaJoe 23:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I can see both ways. I mean, the green hand with the white text is very similar, but where does the "Panama City Beach" come from? Very possibly a reference, also possible it isn't. I will say this; if it is decided to be a reference, put that pic next to it. DeFender1031 23:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Although they are pretty similar, I just can't see TBC putting in a random (even for TBC) reference to marijuana that no one else will get unless they have seen this particular T-shirt. If they wanted to reference marijauna, they probably would have made it more obvious. It just seems too weird to be intentional. — Has Matt? (talk) 00:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why you think it's random. Homestar's character is the type that would wear a shirt like that. And I don't know why you think that any reference has to be obvious. It doesn't. TBC enjoy the subculture they have where not everybody is able to pick out the references they put in. Why make the hand green, then? Who would make a hand green unless they had something in mind? No, this just seems too weird to be unintentional. —BazookaJoe 00:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

If I were TBC, I would want to make the reference somewhat obvious. You say that the Homestar "Bad Boyfriend" character is the kind of guy that would smoke pot. Let's say that TBC decided to make the character someone who actually does smoke pot. If I were TBC, I'd want to make this fact obvious to the viewer, simply because it's character development. If I want to develop a character, I'm not gonna do it with some obscure T-shirt that I saw one time; if I do that, not enough people will understand that Homestar is a pot smoker, and the whole point of character development is lost. — Has Matt? (talk) 01:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd be very surprised if TBC would depict Homestar actually smoking pot or wearing a t-shirt explicitly advocating marijuana. On the other hand, it's reasonable that they would include a subtle joke that some adult viewers would catch but would fly over the head of most of the younger ones (they do this from time to time).

I'm not sure it's intentional yet, but here are some things it has going in it's favor:

• Homestar is playing a deadbeat boyfriend, the kind who could conceivably be a pot-smoker.
• Panama City Beach is well-known for its partying atmosphere, especially during Spring Break.
• This email contains a lot of legal imagery (e.g., the Capitol building, etc.), so there is a loose connection to "legalization".

That said, I'm not convinced yet... Trey56 01:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

As there's no clear consensus, I'll reopen by saying it's quite probable TBC designed the shirt for the visceral effect of the similarity to the well-known "legalize" shirt. I don't think they'd want to blatantly reference it, but this is subtle yet so clearly similar. I'm opting for it being a reference. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Image

This fact has been accepted in STUFF and added to the article. Optimally, we would include this image to supplement the article. However, I'm not sure that we can display that t-shirt in the mainspace without first obtaining permission. Does anyone know if this is correct? Trey56 04:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Polymascotfoamalate = foam??

Is it weird to anyone else that the polymascotFOAMalate, after it burns up, it *shatters*? Does foam usually do that? --Abelhawk 20:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it's just a cartoon and you shouldn't worry about it. ¤ The Mü _{Talk to me.} 01:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Geraldo?

• Homestar having a chair thrown at his face on his talk show is a reference to Geraldo Rivera on national TV in the 1980s.

I'm sorry, I guess I missed the STUFF on this one, but to me, this fun fact makes no sense. Can someone in the know, in the now, in the house or in the place to be please explainorate? VolatileChemical 19:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)