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To keep the main page cleaner, how do people feel about reserving the majority of the talk section for moving each five week section over here once they've run their course? Does this violate any Wiki standards, or would it keep the main part of this page simpler? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 04:50, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Maybe we could make an Archive page. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 05:32, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Archives by groups of 5 weeks, perhaps. Don't want the archive to get too lengthy, either. —BazookaJoe 05:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I dunno, I think we could get away with at least 15 or 20 weeks at a time. Nobody really checkes archives all that often anyways. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 12:16, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Well I'm not really sure of the best way to go about archiving, so whenever we finish up with the first five week block, and move on, feel free to set up some kind of archive system, anyone. (And while you're at it, throw in the discussions at HRWiki:Da Basement if you want). ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 22:35, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Milestone emails.

This is just a list to keep track on what was featured and what should be.

You can add to the list emails you think should be featured as milestones. — Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I added montage. This may be considered a stretch by some, but I think the chances of us featuring it right around email #172 is a strong likelyhood... ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 15:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I've added army. Seems important to me as the origin of Cheat Commandos, if a bit less so for the introduction of the Homestarmy. Heimstern Läufer 11:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
As it turns out, perhaps as much so! Added a few timely additions. - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Updated japanese cartoon.Going senile. Apparently there have been no other nominations from this list fulfilled since then. --Stux 09:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I've corrected my mistaken japanese cartoon coverage. --Stux 18:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I added Email Thunder, it is important right? -Not Dennis 22:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Can we remove e-mails from the list? RickTommy 05:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Why? Heimstern Läufer 16:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Because I don't really consider I Rule to be that much of a milestone e-mail, due to its low page hits (it ranks #193 out of 200). And as for Different Town, how is the collabaration with TMBG a milestone? RickTommy 08:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, but clearly someone else thought these were. So please don't remove them. It's not like this list guarantees they'll be featured, anyway; it's just for reference if we're considering featuring an email. So let's just leave them be. 多謝。 Heimstern Läufer 08:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Alright, strike all that. My apologies if I was being a bit offensive. :-( RickTommy 09:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

vote

how do you vote? — Slipknot6477 (Talk | contribs) 02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

Log in, go to the project page (see the tab above) and add your opinion to the sections. It's less a vote than a discussion. - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Too early

Is it okay for me to leave my idea for the week of October 31, 2007 on this talk page until we reach the proper time to actually vote? Bad Bad Guy 22:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Can I add my idea to the project page now or should I wait til next week? Bad Bad Guy 19:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Considering lately we've been having more LATE votes... early is perfect. I'd go for yes. Bluebry 02:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

How to do the Lappynapping Saga?

A question was raised on the project page how to link to something that doesn't have (or even necessarily) need a page— in particular, how to feature the Lappynapping saga. Well, why not create a one off entry? The FA would be a summary of the saga, with links to cliffhangers, Lappynapped! and retirement. If DNA Evidence (running gag) didn't have it's own page, then something similar could be done for that. But, TBC have often mentioned that it's unusual for them to have any continuity or even story arcs, so this would only be used very occasionally. wbwolf (t | ed) 05:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Here's my question: Is it really a featured article, if it does not have a single mainspace article of which it is a writeup? of course, the idea behind a featured article traditionally has been that we take an article and put a bit of it on the main page, with a link leading to the complete article. Thus, it would be a substantial departure from our practices to make a feature that does not correspond to a specific article.
We could, of course, consider the possibility of actually having a mainspace article summarizing the entire saga. This would certainly solve the problem of how to feature. We'd have to decide if the idea of a summary article like this is something we like enough to have one. Heimstern Läufer 06:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay... how about we feature Lappynapped!? It makes the most sense because it's a hidden page, so may not be commonly known. Moreover, it can't stand on it's own, so the write up would have to refer to cliffhangers and retirement in order to adequately to explain. It would be a de facto summary of the saga, while answering your concern about featuring a single article. wbwolf (t | ed) 03:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
That's... That's a really great idea. I am impressed by your planning ability. And your remembering this conversation! --DorianGray 05:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Dailies - consensus?

We need consensus on when is too often for dailies - evidence here. How can we determine how often they are appropriate? I'd suggest no more than once every two months, i.e. 6 or less times annually.

Also, how do we determine the worthiness of dailies? Do we throw in crappy articles? Clearly not. Do we throw in short articles? That's be difficult to do well. Do we throw in our best pieces of work? Perhaps not, if they deserve a mention as a weekly, but perhaps so, as what else can be a daily? I think dalies are a great way to break things up and feature a lot at a time, a theme if you will.

That said, another thought: should we tell in the FA writeup this is a daily week, so look each day for a new FA? I think so, otherwise, it's a waste and we might as not even do it.

All thoughts welcome. - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think dailies should be done as infrequently as possibly; probably no more than twice a year. Dailies work best when they are thematically related, but honestly, how many groups of seven items of middle importance are there left? The Tandy 400 emails or food related dailies have already been done. As you note, either the remaining articles are either don't warrant featuring on the front page in the first place or are too important to left be left to a daily, and should be up for an entire week. This would be true most of the landmark emails from the Compy 386 era forward, imho, for example. I think it's something we have perhaps already exhausted the plausible supply of, and any future instances should be done rarely. wbwolf (t | ed) 03:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
If that becomes consensus, I propose couching language on the main page to reflect that. - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Two to three times a year if we think of something what I've always planned on, assuming, that is, that we think of that many sevens, which we may not. Heimstern Läufer 04:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Other Possible Articles

A thought occurred to me that I thought would be a good discussion on the talk page: Are we limited to only the main namespace? I'm not suggesting we feature users or anything, but I have occasionally given thought to featuring HRWiki:A History someday (maybe if we can find what week the wiki was created on, and do an anniversary special). Naturally, we should stick to main namespace articles, but I don't think it would hurt to do our own history once. After all, we're also an important part of the H*R universe, and the Chaps rely on us all the time. Other people's thoughts? --DorianGray 20:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Holiday articles

When Halloween times roll around, can I be the first to suggest the ideas for those two weeks (that's when we usually do them)? And since we've done Summer Short Shorts at one time, can we do Decemberween Short Shorts when it's time for that? MHarrington 19:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we really take reservations for first suggestion. From my perspective, I think it might be polite to only make Halloween suggestion and let someone else have a chance to make a suggestion for the other week. A thought. Heimstern Läufer 02:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Like you mentioned in your own post, let's slow down a bit. There's no need to go so far ahead or make reservations, when the time comes around we'll decide what's best. Who knows, maybe TBC might make a new SBemail or Short that would be more appropriate for the occasion. --Stux 02:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. Except I can't stop thinking about those ideas ahead of time. I had to explain myself somewhere. MHarrington 19:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
In 2010, for the week that April 30th is in, can I have dibs on picking the article of the week for that week? April 30th is my birthday and 2010 is my golden year. That'd be great, thanks. Okay, I'll go read this article now. =] OptimisticFool 03:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, boy. That's a good article Homestar-Winner (talk) 02:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

tis true?

I think the next should be Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True.

NinjaPmPom 21:36, 10 December 2008

Yes! I agree. --Marzie500 22:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Future Writeup

Just so everyone's aware of its existance, I took the liberty of doing a writeup for Gavin, an article not yet selected, but one I would like to see one day. I've never gotten to suggest an article, but if you guys ever get stuck for time or something, here's one that's already mostly complete. --DorianGray 04:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Week 16, 2009?

How come nothing for Week 16 has been put up yet? The article has been written and ready to go. MHarrington 06:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Where is everybody?

Am I the only one who puts up anything here on the Featured Articles section anymore? MHarrington 15:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Where do these summaries go, anyhow?

These main page feature articles often summarise the content they feature nicelessly, yet they don't appear in the body of the article. Maybe keep 'em around as a review or summmary of the article?

We do keep them around. --DorianGray 04:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Queue

What if we had a queue for upcoming featured articles, so that a good article doesn't have to keep being nominated each week until it finds a home. I envision a list that is always about 10 to 20 entries long. Anyone can add something to the bottom of the list (but they should refrain if doing so if it means letting the list get too long). Things can be moved up or down, or even removed entirely, by consensus. A really great article can get moved to the head of the list, or one that's not quite ready could get pushed back a couple of weeks. I'm not sure how all the details would work. I also know that some of our featured articles are time-sensitive, so my suggestion here would need to incorporate them separately somehow. — It's dot com 01:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think this idea could make FAS a lot smoother. I'm not really sure how it would work, but I was playing with how it might look. Here is one thing I imagined: 1. The markup for that may look kind of hairy, but with some convenient row templates, it could be made very simple to edit. I was going for something that would let people at a glance see what (if anything) had been agreed on for the next month or so, and then a list of a further 10 or so articles that were generally agreed FA-worthy but hadn't been scheduled yet. And a prominent place to mark weeks that had a special timely consideration. I imagined that the list could go at the top of the page, and detailed discussion for reaching consensus would be below it.
Another idea I was toying with, was to have some "tags" to stick in the list that classified the article. See 2. I abused the {{u}} template just as an example, but those aren't really the right kind of icons. What I had in mind would be a different set of icons representing the "type" of article being featured. Like "character", "toon", "tgs", "ccdos", and so on. I'd guess any article could have more than one of these tags. The only real reason would be to visually see what sort of things were planned to be featured in relation to when similar things are. It's sort of superfluous and maybe just mucks up the list... I'm not sure I really like the tags idea after all.  Green Helmet 14:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: HRWiki:Featured article for 2009, week 53 (Dec 28-Jan 3)

Are we absolutely sure we should show the date like that? We've never had a "week 53" situation before (I suspect that this situation will cause date problems). Jc iindyysgvxc 11:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Week 53 is based upon the ISO week date, which MediaWiki uses to keep track of weeks. A "week 53" is not common— it happens 71 times every 400 years— but this year just happens to be one of those years. wbwolf (t | ed) 16:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Possibly Weak Propositions

Instead of writing them on the project page, I think that less prominent articles should be suggested here, so as to free up space in the main section. I'll start. Is Strong Mad and Coach Z's Relationship worthy of being featured (ever)? --FIFTH GREG! HRWiki Greg 02:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

At present, the opening of the article is not nearly long enough. In terms of prominence, I've got nothing against featuring obscure stuff if it's properly fit to feature; indeed I rather like putting unusual stuff on the Main Page. So basically, if you want it featured, it could theoretically be done, but you'll need to expand the intro about tenfold. Currently, that's a dealbreaker. Heimstern Läufer 04:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
I've extended the intro; Is it long enough now? --FIFTH GREG! HRWiki Greg 06:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
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