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[edit] How new is "All-New"?

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 15:14, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• Bart Simpson was and still is 10 years old, even though the show has been running for more than 15 years. Same thing for products.
• Advertising mascots need not be the same age as their products.

Additional comments:

• He wouldn't be much of a mascot as a screaming newborn.
  • Why bring his age into it, though, and not just avoid saying it (hence how most advertising slogans remain timeless: they don't begin with an age)

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[edit] Signing On

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 16:27, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• The viewer's eyes will be attracted to it, but only if the viewer lives in the USA will he or she know that green with white backgroung is for road signs.
• Most viewers don't view Flash files directly.
• The viewer cannot see the "RD" part without manipulating the Flash file; therefore, it is appropriate to note it.
• I wouldn't have noticed the "RD" part if not for this Fun Fact, and I'm sure the same can be said about a lot of people.

Arguments against:

• Extremely obvious; since the sign is green on a white background and stands out, viewers' eyes will be attracted to it, and they will, of course, read it.
• It should be noted, but as part of the description in the actual transcript, not as a fun fact.

Additional comments:

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[edit] It's been how long?

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 21:54, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• It really has been a long time since there was an email without an Easter egg (nearly three years), so long in fact that it's notable.

Arguments against:

• Um, the part where Strong Bad says that there aren't any Easter eggs is obviously itself an Easter egg. A better fun fact would be that this is the first Easter egg to refer to Easter eggs.
• I don't think the length of time should have anything to do with it. There's just no easter eggs, that's all.

Additional comments:

• This has been added and removed several times by several users. It was placed here to settle whether it truly should remain.
• It could also be noted that this is the first Lappy Email without the easter eggs.
• Also just noticed: if this fact is true (and it has yet to be proved false) then every single Compy email had eggs in them (lures & jigs didn't originally, but they were added in later.)
• Above ArgAg is wrong in the context of this Wiki—we don't count extra scenes after the Paper comes down to be Easter Eggs (assuming they happen on their own, of course!)
• Strong Bad doing something after The Paper comes down is normally only counted to be an Easter Egg if you have to wait a while for Strong Bad to do it. If the SB knocking change out of his head in do over isn't counted as an Easter Egg, this shouldn't be.
  • But it is counted as an easter egg. It's just not noted in the Easter Eggs section of the wiki page.
• We never have counted scenes after the paper comes down. Why should this one be different?

Proposed revision:

Arguments for:

• It's a subtle difference, but it's more accurate this way

Arguments against:

• This is a distinction without a difference. All Easter eggs that we list are ones you have to click on. Extra stuff after the Paper is—by our tradition—considered part of the transcript. Therefore, this revision is unnecessary.
• Use of the word "clickable" makes the fact less accurate. For example, ghosts does not have any clickable Easter Eggs, but it does have an Easter Egg. Not all Easter Eggs have to be clicked; some can be activated by pressing a button on the keyboard and some by moving your mouse over a certain item.

Additional comments:

• Unless something crazy happens, the fact is going to be overwhelmingly accepted as it was originally written above. This proposed revision does not actually change the substance of the fact; after the fact is accepted, adding this word or not could be discussed on the talk page.
• for those of you that are new here, WE NEVER COUNT SCENES AFTER THE PAPER COMES DOWN AS AN EASTER EGG.

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[edit] Those hilarious jibblies

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 23:48, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• He acts crazy in both instances, but that's about where the similarities end.
• The funny dance is not even close to the jibblie dance.

Additional comments:

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[edit] The only tree, except for that one, and that other one

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 14:28, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Yes it is, but it should be rewritten as the first tree in the forground.

Arguments against:

• It's the only tree except for these 50 (or so) other ones: the trees that the cheat moved to give the impression of movement for Dangeresque's car, and the trees in the background, and the stick...
• There's another featured tree (albeit imaginary) in different town.

Additional comments:

• The original fact was as it is now; the part that was combined with the first argument was added sarcastically by a different user.
• Maybe we could phrase this to say that this was the first tree to be seen that a character interacts with.
• This ought to be removed on the grounds of being provably false.

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[edit] Tree's a crowd

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 06:02, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• In army Homestar is acting all military and suggesting Strong Bad hugs trees. In bottom 10 Homestar is acting all military and forcing Strong Bad to hug a tree. Why would that not be a reference?

Arguments against:

• Homsar also had a "tree hugging" party, in Strong Sad's Lament.
• Why would Colonel Homestar ask Strong Bad to do something he assumed Strong Bad was already doing?
• All too likely a coincidence.
• Strong Bad isn't a member of the Homestarmy anyway.
• This is the only time Homestar has ever wanted Strong Bad to hug a tree. In fact, in army he acted like tree hugging was a bad thing.

Additional comments:

• In both army and bottom 10, the tree hugging is a reference to the nickname "tree hugger" which is often used to insult hippies. Not that it's really worth noting.
• We don't need to acknowledge every instance of tree hugging. It's a concept that exists outside the Homestar Runner universe, and it falls under the category of TTATOT. (This, that, and the other thing.)

Proposed revision:

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• In army Homestar is acting all military and suggesting Strong Bad hugs trees. In bottom 10 Homestar is acting all military and forcing Strong Bad to hug a tree.
• We don't need to acknowledge every instance of tree hugging. It's a concept that exists outside the Homestar Runner universe, and it falls under the category of TTATOT. (This, that, and the other thing.)
• Way to oblique to be a real reference.

Additional comments:

• Covering both bases here.

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[edit] Inter-Toon Quotation Reference

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 17:43, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• The style of delivery is strikingly similar.
• If they DO speak like this, and if it IS similar, then it should be noted.

Arguments against:

• The only thing common here is the paper towels; the two quotes from the two different movies were said in different tones, and used for different purposes (Pom-Pom's death, and Strong Bad trying to get rid of his vomit from the keyboard).
• In one case, Strong Bad said to bring some towels, and in the other case, he said to bring some paper towels. No reason to stretch the slight coincidence any further than that.
• It's probably because it's just the way The Brothers Chaps speak. People do tend to say things in the same way.

Additional comments:

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[edit] Is the ride broken?

From: bottom 10
Posted on: 18:12, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• I haven't found one instance of this being true. The only logo I found is of the ride itself, in which the font is nowhere near the one displayed in bottom 10. Likely, The Brothers Chaps just picked a "Latin American" font and had no desire to make it resemble the Knott's Berry Farm ride.

Additional comments:

• Just in case anyone thinks it's a neat font, the font used for Chocozuma's Revenge was Jokerman.
• Whoops. I guess my memory of the sign failed me. sorry guys! (superorange)

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