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[edit] A Brief History of Jigga Juggas

From: death metal
Posted on: 00:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• This is true, and there's definately a precedent.
• The guitar page lists a similar reference to Strong Bad's Website under Fast Forward.
• While slightly different, the onomatopoeia is extremely similar to the previous version.

Arguments against:

• It could be a coincidence.
• It may not be important enough to bother mentioning.
• In guitar, Strong Bad says "jug jigga". In death metal, Brainkreig says "jugga jigga wugga". They're not the same.
• Also, in guitar, Strong Bad describes the sound of a rhythm guitar as "jug jigga", but in death metal, it is the bassist and the drummer who say "jugga jigga wugga".
• onomatopoeia is the spelling out of a sound, SB likes music and guitars therefore he is bound to spell it now and again, and there only so many ways to descirbe the sound in words. Not worthy of mention.
• Not a solid enough reference to be noted.
• At the time of typing, Strong Bad's Website doesn't have this fact so why this article?

Additional comments:

• Originally this was placed under Remarks, but it might be better suited to Inside References.

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[edit] Taranchulae

From: death metal
Posted on: 19:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• It is true, makes sense in the context, and is somewhat interesting.

Arguments against:

• "Mort" is a Latin root meaning death, so it would go back further than French.

Additional comments:

• We could reword this fact to state Latin instead of French.
• I went on one of those free translation sites, and even though it may not be entirely accurate, it says "mort" is indeed French for "death".
• Now that I think about it, you're right. Stupid me.
• Note that the original wording isn't technically wrong, just that the French word is derived from the Latin root.
• It's probably just short for Mortimer.

Proposed revision:

Arguments for:

• Fixes problem listed above.
• Re: arg 2: although the Latin word is "mortuus", the root is "mort", from which we get English word like "mortal", "postmortem", etc.

Arguments against:

• Mort is an actual name(Short for Mortimer), so this isn't really necessary.
• The actual latin word is "Mortuus".
  • "Mortuus" is actually part of the perfect (i.e. indicating a past action) form of the verb meaning "to die." (morior, mori, mortuus sum)
  • The Latin word meaning "death" is mors, mortis
• In french the T is silent, but not in Dougland's name. Mort is also short for Mortimer.
  • The T isn't silent in the Latin root.

Additional comments:

• "Mort latin" brings up 2,270,000 results on Google. "Mortuus latin" brings up 40,900.
  • The first thing that comes up in a search of "Mort latin" is Mort Crim, who later down the page has a reference to Latin America.
• Although Mort is an actual name, we are discussing "death" because of its email: "death metal".
• I don't think TBC would just randomly pick a name for the director of Taranchula's death metal video, and it would turn out to be something like "Mort".
• Why not change it to "is derived from a Latin root"? Far more accurate and then we don't have to worry about all this Latin form business.
  • Er, it already says "Latin root".
    • Sorry, I just got a little too excited.
• Also: Wiktionary articles on mori and mors.
• Guys, regardless of what the name is short for, this is a legitimate real reference to something, because I doubt a lot of Wiki members know this.
• I'd say it's a pretty commonly known Latin root. Mortician, Morticia Addams, Rigor Mortis...
  • Morton, Mortimer...
    • Actually, the names Morton, Mortimer, and Mort don't have anything to do with the Latin root other than that they a cute allusion, according to babynames.com and babynamesworld.com. Morticia, on the other hand, seems contrived enough.
      • Hence the reason I added them. I'm one of the naysayers.
        • "Mort" probably is short for Morton or Mortimer, but the thing is, it also refers to death. It could be coincidence, yes, but honestly, I'd find that to be more of a stretch than the alternate, given that TBC could've used any name in existance, yet chose one related to the subject matter.
• I didn't say it wasn't common. I said I'm sure that there are quite a few Wiki-ers out there that don't know what it means. And it isn't along Pikachu lines.

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[edit] Horriffic?

From: death metal
Posted on: 02:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• The word is obviously a portmanteau of extracurricular and terrific, so there is no reason (other than it being a goof) for TBC to spell it with an extra f.

Arguments against:

• Even if "extracurriculariffic" is based on the word terrific, it's still not a goof. TBC may very well have wanted to spell it with two "f"s, and they made up the word.
• The fact sounds rather awkward.
  • Agreed. By the time my brain was done untangling this "fact" I had a headache.
• "Extracurricularific" looks like it might have a long I sound, and "extracurricularrific" isn't much better.
• It's a made-up word.
• Even if this is true, it's not very fun or interestingB
• I took the double f as being intentional, and that they just felt like adding the word "riff" in there to make it more silly.

Additional comments:

• Perhaps a reword is in order, but the fact is a legitimate goof.
  • What are you talkin' about, Emily? This delves into the realm of picayune nitpicking.
• "Terriffic" is a common misspelling of "terrific".
• It could've been spelled eckstruh-cuhricyular-riffick and still been right.
  • If it was a totally "made-up word," as the argument against suggests, then that may be so, but it's not - it's a combination of the components of two words, each of which should be properly spelled.
    • Not if, by combining the words literally, the spelling suggests the wrong sound.
      • If you are referring to the alleged "long i sound," it should be no different than in the original word "terrific." Whether the i is long or short is determined by the letters after it, not before.
        • That should make logical sense, but when I look at the various forms above, I have to disagree. The way the Chaps spelled it is at least as good as the other ways, whether or not it's literally "correct".

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