Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2

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Finally, I gots me a full transcript. Thunderbird 07:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Heim (Or anybody else up at this hour): Message 3 - The remix. Transcribe the lyrics, or just mention that the song plays? Thunderbird 07:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Jay totally took care of it. Now put all your money into your mailbox for... uh, for safekeeping, 'cuz I promise it'll all be there in the morning. No way would I... I mean, would somebody come along and take it! Okay, bye! --Lorenz Magazine Man 07:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Not Talkin' About Van Halen?

I was wondering if anyone else thought the title Not Talkin' 'Bout Butter was a referrence to Van Halens song "Not Talkin' 'Bout Love"?

Didn't sound anything like it, though. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knee vs 'Neath

I could be wrong, but on message 2, I think I heard "with a length of twine coming from the 'neath."--Antisexy

I concur. --It's Jay Times! (tines) 07:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
"The 'neath" also fits with the same theme as "the 'bove" from Strong Bad's children's book. -- 67.161.78.153 09:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
As do I, already changed. Knee didn't sound right while I was transcribing it, but I couldn't hear it saying anything better. I hate the old-timey jargin. Thanks Antisexy. Thunderbird 07:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raymond E. Feist

Is it just me, or does it seem very unlikely the Old-Timey Homestar would be making a reference to a modern fantasy novel? Me, I understood "Hi Sign", as in a wave of the hand.--Tosus 09:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. In fact, another "possible reference" to it was just added to the fun facts. I've heard that term used in many places. It's entering the realm of TTATOT. -YK 10:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, Webster's defines high sign as "a gesture used as a signal (as of approval or warning) -- usually used in the phrase 'give the high sign',"[1] wording almost identical to The Homestar Runner's. PolarBoy 10:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I just editted the page accordingly, I'd appreciate a proofread and maybe a high-sign regarding the wording and placement. My contributions are kind of hit-and-miss, so I'll just cross my fingers against a solid STUFFing. PolarBoy 10:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split 7-inch

Anybody, know what a split 7-inch is? I think that would be worth an explanation on the article page. Also I don't know what the KOT mean by album needing to drop. I R F 12:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

This 7" disambiguation on Wikipedia was the closest thing I could find to "seven-inch" being related to audio. — Lapper (talk) 13:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article Split Record helps answer this question. Thus, a "split 7-inch" is a 7-inch diameter vinyl record containing a song by a different artist on each side.
You guys are right, but it's not necessarily one song per artist. It might be better to say "a record produced by two artists, each with songs on one side" or something to that effect. Just sayin'. ModestlyHotGirl 14:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Why a screenshot of an Easter egg? What about Homestar talking into a banana? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 14:48, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I did bring that up on IRC last night. I'm all for the Bananna. Thunderbird 15:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Agree, and done. — Bill 15:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I dunno. That picture really doesn't look right: is there a better picture that's non-egg? Alcnolien Has Spoken! 18:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
No. The entire rest of the 'toon (besides the egg) is just the answering machine itself, visually speaking. --It's Jay Times! (tines) 18:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It's the bananaphone! www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/badgerphone.php
Cute animation, but no. :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that picture makes Homestar look like he has little triangular arms or something.

[edit] KOT Remix!!

Wow. I wish I had DJ Teh Cheat's amazing remix abilities. --NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc  19:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I concur... that was one fantastic remix. -- Some Random Guy

[edit] Phone cord

Is this really a goof? It could be that the phone jack is just a foot or so above the outlet. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 19:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] homestar and marzipan living together?

something seems weird, why is homestar asking marzipan to get eggs and milk, and it always seems like homestar lives in her house with her since we never get to see whre homestar lives!

Compare: Homestar's House vs Marzipan's House. They're not living together. Thunderbird 23:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure TBC would never do something like that! Plus, just from watching the toons you can tell that they live in different houses. Trelawney

Homestar freely waltzes into Marzipans house the same way he freely waltzes into Strong Bad's house.--Antisexy 04:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] picture caption

You misspelt what homestairs spelt. He backspacebar'd the S.

Nevermind. Heehee..... ^^;;;

[edit] Pay, Plause, and Rewind Live TV!

For additional opinions on this subject, see this archive.

Homestar is walking around talking into the banana as we are hearing the message for message 6. There are three equally implausible explanations for this:

  • He is mouthing the words to his already-recorded message into a banana.
  • Message 6 is actually a section of blank tape of equal length to Homestar's banana-message.
  • The banana really is a phone, and the viewer is hearing him record the message live.

Now that I look at Kiefer's comments below, I see that the last one isn't possible. — It's dot com 21:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[You] mention "three equally implausible explanations" for Homestar's banana-message. It isn't really constructive conversation, but I just wanted to state abent-mindedly and for the record that I prefer several even less plausible explanations. First, I rather like the notion that the sincerity of Homestar's delusion works a faith miracle of sorts; because he believes so thoroughly in the "phone-ness" of the banana, the message is successfully recorded. But really, the heart of the matter is that it's not Homestar and his banana that cause the message, but the other way 'round. The message exists because, well, it's a Marzipan's Answering Machine. And then Homestar walks past with the banana simply because it's necessary to fully exploit the comedic potential of his cell-phone enthusiasm. So the real mystery is not how the banana created the message, but how the message created the banana! —AbdiViklas 02:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I think that (1) it's an obvious joke and any explanation dumbs down the whole thing, (B) it was STUFFed twice and was argued down each time, and (III) I cannot make my mind up as to how to do anything here. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, Abdi. You make me laugh out loud sometimes. :) — It's dot com 02:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
If you really want to STUFF it, I won't stop you. I just reverted it before because were in mid-revision, and didn't want it shot down in its original, disorganized, obvious-to-be-declined state. If you guys STUFF it, I'm not gonna revert it again. (But I will vote for it) ;) Thunderbird 02:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused, who said anything about inclusion on the page? First of all, if there's something on the page that was voted down in STUFF, then it needs to get off. Secondly, let's be clear that the above is simply me letting my mind wander out loud somewhat sillily. Okay, well, it does have a hidden agenda, reminding us once again that, as entertaining as the "make sense out of H*R causalities" game can be, the ultimate cause and explanation for so many things is simply comedic necessity or TBC's artistic whim. In so many cases "because it's funny" or "because TBC dang well wanted to" is the only working explanation for why something happens. (But speculating about relationships within the artistic continuum can still be worthwhile, just as "Why did Hamlet take so long killing Claudius?" doesn't have to be dismissed with "Because Shakespeare an' the gang needed a new two-hour play.") —AbdiViklas 02:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
It was originally added by an IP address, and wasn't very NPOV. Me and Dot com were revising it, but as we were it was getting STUFF'd. I reverted the STUFFing until it was revised. Now that it has been, if it is deemed still STUFFable, that's a totally different story, and obviously wouldn't be reverted. Thunderbird 02:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
As it stands now, it never actually made it into STUFF (that is, the item was reverted before it got off the ground). It was headed that way because the original wording was unusuable and we had people deleting it and others revising it simultaneously. We were lobbying to spare it the process, at least until we could get it into a presentable form. It is my understanding that the current wording is much more acceptable, although I suppose that remains to be seen. (By the way, Abdi, I got that you were just letting your mind wander, something I enjoy very much when you share.) — It's dot com 03:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Something just occurred to me regarding a [this] discussion about what Homestar is doing during Message 6 (the first one that plays). He walks by talking into a banana while the message is playing, so people have suggested that perhaps he's actually recording that message live.

There's a problem with that explanation: In all of the Answering Machines prior to this one (and even this one, if you consider The Cheat remixed the KOT's new jam after the KOT did it in the first place), all messages are played in chronological order from first to last, despite the numbers counting down. This is made clear when Homestar tries to learn how to make a prank call, or in any of the other cases where a character references an earlier message in a later one.

The Answering Machine's display (and therefore the way we number the messages) works like this: It shows the total number of messages on the machine, and we can assume that the message is deleted from memory once it's played. When you loop back to the beginning, the whole toon plays over again, so the messages reset. (Exception: When Homestar replaces the tape in Version 9.2.)

So, now that I've established that, here's the problem with the idea that Homestar is recording his message live when we listen to it: That would mean he'd need to be inserting his message as the first one on the machine, ahead of all the rest already there. That doesn't work. Therefore, Eh! Steve's mouth asplodes the universe. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I—... I can't b—... Chi-g-d-b ... He—g ... You're exactly right. I'm buyin' you a pizza! — It's dot com 00:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Why can't the other ones be live too? Which, I guess, does produce other odd inconsistencies, but whatever. --It's Jay Times! (tines) 00:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
See the thing that I laugh most at in life is when people say completely random things as their conclusions, such as in Dot com's userpage, when he says "Which can bring us to only one conclusion: Strong Sad's adopted" or something like that. I just love that, Kieferskunk. — Seriously (Talk) 00:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New KOT...B?

Okay, am I the only one who thought of the New Kids On The Block? Stupid Coincidence? —AbdiViklas 02:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Haha, it's certainly in their time period of reference. But I think they would have been a bit clearer if it was supposed to be. Thunderbird 02:29, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Good thinking, but I don't think so. SaltyTalk! 23:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mrs. Pan

Marzipan seems sad to me in her message- her voice is slightly broken up and she talks about eating dirt, something Strong Bad would say to her. I'm not sure if this belongs on the page (probably not) but I just thought I'd point it out. Feel better, Marzy! Trelawney 06:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Could Missy C be pregnant? They say pregnant women sometimes eat dirt... >.>
There's a long running joke among pretty much everyone I know that "Organic" means that it has dirt in it, which is what I thought of when I first heard the message. Benabik 06:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Also note the irony—probably unintentional—that her Yearbook Character Page claims that Strong Bad described her as a "dirty hippie without the dirt". --TheNicestGuy 18:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Interesting! I decided to STUFF that - check it out. :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

It sounds more like she's got a cold or something. It's all crackly and sore throat-sounding. --VolatileChemical 00:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, it looks like the anonny up there guessed right... — It's dot com 05:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I always thought she was a worm in a dress.-The 4rticle B4ndit

Anyone else who's read it reminded of Eurydike from "House of the Eagle"? brillinat book, well worth it.

[edit] Pauses Betweem Words

In the last message, I think that when Strong Bad pauses between some of his words, he is imitating an automated message. Maybe?

  • I think he's just trying to come up with the words to say. He does that a lot. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Food=Phone?

I think this deserves a running gag notice. First the Twinkie phone in Where the Crap Are We?, now this, and probably other times I can't recall. --אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)

I've already made a page for it. — Seriously (Talk) 21:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Sweet. --אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)

Why hasn't anyone said anything about the very obvious reference here to Banana Phone? C'mon, you know -- Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, banana phone? Do I really need to sing it?

Because it is being debated in STUFF. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Was. — It's dot com 03:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The New KOT's Jam

Does anyone think that "Not Talkin 'bout Butter" deserves a page? LePorello / T / C 22:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it's part of the KoT's running gag about eating everything, but I'd wait for something else related to the tune to pop up before it gets its own page. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so, the only songs that get their own pages are Strong Bad Sings songs, right? Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 22:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
DJ Teh Cheat needs his own page seperate from Club Technochocolate I think, since he seems to do more than just play at that club. His page should cover the collab /w the KOT, and the KOT's page should link to DJ Teh Cheat for info about it. --NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc  22:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I disagree - I think this information should simply be included in The Cheat's main character page, as an elaboration on the things he does. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
That remix was awesome. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif)

[edit] Disappearing Homestar

Something stupid I noticed. Basically, if you listen to the first message long enough for Homestar to walk by, then hit the next/previous button, he'll disappear (of course). I didn't know if you guys thought this would be a goof, remark, or stupid stuff that gets ignored. I figured I'd post this here, as I don't even have an account on this site anyways.

Sign up! It's easy! :) And as for that: This is a Flash artifact, and something you can control as the watcher - just like in any of the Main Pages where an effect stops and restarts when you mouse over and off the buttons. I asked a similar question about the possibility of Twin Characters on Main Page 13 because it was possible to get two copies of Atari Strong Bad to appear at the same time, and it was decided then that this didn't qualify since you could control the action there. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magma=Lava

Am I right in saying that Strong Bad should have said the LAVA was seeping under the door, since magma is no longer called such once it reaches the surface. Is this good enough to be mentioned or not(My science teacher just drove us crazy about this kind of thing!)? ItalianBallerina 19:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering about that too. I'd probably make it a Remark that Strong Bad uses the wrong term to depict molten volcanic rock. It's probably worth mentioning - let's see if it holds up. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 04:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, it is theoretically possible that the eruption was taking place right under her door, in which case it is still magma until the moment it seeps out. :-) Heimstern Läufer 04:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lorenz Magazine Man

What in the world is a Lorenz? - Brittany

The name "Lorenz" is short for Lorenzo, a common Spanish/Mexican name. I believe it's analogous to Lawrence, as well. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 05:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia also lists several things containing the name Lorenz, such as Max O. Lorenz, an economist who came up with the Lorenz Curve, or physicist Ludvig Lorenz, who published the Lorenz gauge condition, or mathematician Edward Lorenz, who discovered the Lorenz attractor. Also of note were two items used by the Germans in WW2. One of them was the Lorenz cipher, a code-encryptor, and the other was the Lorenz radar, which was a navagation aid.70.224.255.233 00:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marzipan: Pregnant?

It could be Marzipan thats pregnent. She's sounding depressed, and eating dirt. I hope this isn't the case. I'd hate to see TBC jump the Bear-Shark.

Actually, it's Missy (voice of Marzy) who's pregnant. Check the Remarks section. --DorianGray
I already knew that Missy was pregnant. I'm just saying that Marzy could be pregnant too, meaning that they jumped the Bear-Shark.--24.216.248.85 00:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Buck tooth-ed fool

Old-Timey Strong Bad pronounces "Buck Tooth-ed fool" the same way Judge Doom does in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Posted on: 21:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 00:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 9–4. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] This isn't dirt! It's STUFF!

Marzipan's statement that she's eating dirt is likely a reference to Stinkoman, who eats dirt in the email time capsule, and also in Under Construction (where he finds the dirt is actually pudding).

Posted on: 23:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 00:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 17–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] A Dirty Hippie Without the STUFF

Eating dirt is a practice common among pregnant women, especially in rural societies. The day after this toon was released, The Brothers Chaps announced at Flashforward 2006 that Missy Palmer (the voice of Marzipan) was pregnant.

Posted on: 22:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 00:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was revised and then overwhelmingly accepted, 17–2. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] Banana Manana?

Homestar is walking around talking into the banana as we are hearing the message for message 6. There are three equally implausible explanations for this:
  • He is mouthing the words to his already-recorded message into a banana.
  • Message 6 is actually a section of blank tape of equal length to Homestar's banana-message.
  • The banana really is a phone, and the viewer is hearing him record the message live.

Posted on: 04:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 21:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined (part of it was shown to be patently false; see also the talk page), 22–10. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] Bana...Banamana...Banamanamana tonight!

Homestar using a banana as a telephone may be a reference to the Raffi CD and subsequent Internet phenomenon Bananaphone.

Posted on: 15:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 21:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 24–7. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] Speculation into the Stratosphere

The fact that The Strong Bad supposedly "launched the recording into the stratosphere" could be another reference to time capsule.

Posted on: 20:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 06:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined, 19–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] A hankering for some prankering

Old-Timey Strong Bad's line "I've got a hankering for a prankering" might be a reference to a Homer Simpson line in "Two Dozen & One Greyhounds (2F18)": "Which is lucky, too, because it's spanking season, and I got a hankering for some spankering!"

Posted on: 15:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 01:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 22–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2.

[edit] Harrison and Garfield

OK, maybe the Lasagna joke is a reference to Garfield the cat, but there should be no way that Old Timey Strongbad should even know what Garfield is, since the comic strip started in '78. Is this a goof?

[edit] My new Jam!

Is it just my imagination, or am I hearing the KOT say "Here's my new jam" instead of "It's my new Jam" I always thought that this was the way since I first saw it, and it makes a little more sense to me. Anyone agree? link_icon.gifThe Joe(Talk) 03:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't speak for your imagination (oh, but boy if I could!) but when I listen 100 times in a row I can hear what you propose. When I cold-listen, it's clearly "It's". I think it's very probably "It's". Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DJ Teh Cheat Understandable?

It seems to me that The Cheat, when talking to the KOT in the Easter Egg, is actually decipherable, saying, "I'm here to get the remix from my demo song." The next line seems to sound something like, "Yeah, but it's a remix of your demo song!" Though that one is not nearly as clear, and doesn't agree with what the KOT next comments ["A split 7 inch?"] I've always thought that Matt was, perhaps, saying real words with The Cheat's lines, just making them so jumbled that they weren't understandable. Is it possible, then, that TBC were so rushed in preparing for their upcoming Flashfoward appearance that they went with an early recording which wasn't as finished as their usual work? -- Dragoon5464 15:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buck tooth-ed fool

Old-Timey Strong Bad pronounces it the same way Judge Doom did in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. So, do you think this is a reference?--Jnelson09 17:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Hiiii Sign

The way The Homestar Runner says "Gimme the Hi Sign" sounds like old gangster films from the twenties. Retromaniac 22:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Groucho Marx

Hey, how'd the thing about Groucho Marx and Animal Crackers get in the Real World Refrences? I mean I've never seen the movie, but it just sounds like blatant off the wall speculation. If you're spelling out loud a question, that seems like a reasonable way to pronounce the question mark to preserve it as a question.--Antisexy 05:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I have the movie, and Zeppo reads the letter back to Groucho - "Gentlemen, question mark." Groucho corrects Zeppo, "Gentlemen, Question Mark! Put it on the penultimate, not the dipthonic." I don't really see how pronouncing "question mark" is a reference to this sketch whatsoever. For all we know it has something to do with 'Question Mark and the Mysterians'. ¡ɯooz + 07:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
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