Talk:fan club

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Contents 1 Self-referential? 2 Van Mundegaard 3 12-times man 4 Gron Sad's eyes 5 Coupla things 6 Gardenias? 7 angelcities 8 Abdi LaRue 9 a ghostly intro song? 10 Homsar 11 Moronosphere 12 Kingy of town 13 bRAKING THE RULESSSSSS 14 Huh? 15 Geddup Noise 16 The Cheat? 17 Monteljohn 18 pop-up book = deleteheads? 19 Dittoheads = Deleteheads 20 The Last Two Threads 21 "controversial" 22 Grade A Gray Day 23 Congradulations, you've just collected a turkey club *cheers* 24 Yellow cape. New Article. 25 Scalawaggery

[edit] Self-referential?

The talk about SBEmail fan fiction, should we include a link to Fanstuff in this article? And who do we crown the president of The Deleteheads? wbwolf (t | ed) 14:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Van Mundegaard

Okay, I can't remember how to spell it or when he was last referred to, so I don't know where to link, but it looks to me as though the Deleteheads membership card is signed by Van Mundegaard. And why do I get this weird feeling of Strong Bad insulting me for asking such a question after today's email? :p --Jay (Gobble) 16:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, found it. It's "Mundegaarde". --Jay (Gobble) 16:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 12-times man

Should 12-times man have his own article? The Thnikkaman has one. Don't say jorb 101

If he makes a second appearance, maybe. – The Chort 19:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you think 12-times man is a hybrid of "I can do it 9 times" and "I'll take it. I'll take 12!"? It's just the kind of reference mixing fans tend to do. 76.167.90.250 00:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

1. 12-times Man is a variation of Strong Sad, if he reappears (ala The Thnikkaman) he could merit a page. I doubt the "I'll take 12" line is involved here, though. Though I could be wrong. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

but why the #12? 76.167.90.250 06:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Twelve is an amusing number, apparently. I frequently use the phrase "The number 12?" as an inside joke (often preceeded by "A Volkswagon? A mailbox?"). --DorianGray 06:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Would 12 times be considered a running gag (next to 9 times)? P.S.: Why would it be 12 times instead of 9 times like the original gag? - El Trento 11:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Gron Sad's eyes

when strong sad is presiding over his meeting, his eyes seem farther apart than usual. does anyone else see that? --Zatchman 18:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

yeah. --Alex H.

I third.--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 03:35, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Coupla things

First, and this is very annoying, but I can't see Homsar. I see Senor Cardgage talking to a gym bag or something. Is Homsar an Easter Egg?

Also, in Real-Life references, I'm pretty sure "Deleteheads" is a reference to Rush Limbaugh's "Dittoheads."

Finally, this was a great sbemail! One of my favorites in a while. - l'anglais

Actually, I thought "Deleteheads" was a play on the word "Deleted", especially the way SB says it.--Bobsmith84 19:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

When I saw it I thought of The Grateful Dead's DeadheadsHooray4Trogdor95 20:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I second that Deleteheads is a play on the word "Deleted." Kevin G. Dannerson 07:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, just watched again, now I get Homsar and no Senor Cardgage. They appear to alternate when I watch them. Kind of weird ...

For what it's worth: the notebook in front of Strong Sad reads: Meeting

1) Pledge 2) Hosting 3) Fhqwhfest 4) Blinkg (or perhaps Blinky) Fun - l'anglais

The "heads" is not a reference to any one particular fan club, many members go by these same types. Jimmy Buffet has his Parrotheads and several country music artists have their own weirdly named fans. Is this the first time there is a random scene?--SDSpivey 17:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

So should it be a real world reference that it references the whole of heads names?Hooray4Trogdor 22:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

No. *This* situation is one of the few instances as of late where the grossly overused TTATOT -- "This, That, And The Other Thing" -- *actually applies*. Furthermore, if we noted something like that, we'd have to list examples, and there's nothing that makes "Dittoheads" any more noteworthy in this case than "Deadheads". -YK 01:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

• No. The original Senor Cardgage email had him saying different random things to Strong Mad. It seems that there were some others, but I don't remember and am too lazy to go looking right now.

What have you all done to this section?? -Jdhannan 22:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I just watched this toon 8 times until that point and got homsar, homsar, homsar, cardgage on html and then homsar, homsar, homsar, cardgage on swf. i didn't know if this 75% homsar to 25% cardgage was typical or just a coincidence. any thoughts on this? Kevin G. Dannerson 00:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gardenias?

Cardgage (man, so cool!) says something pronounced care-a-GEEN-an. —Einstein runner () 23:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Where's this? Carrageenan is a food additive derived from seaweed. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] angelcities

It should be noted that angelcities.com is a real host (zero-catch.)

Already noted. --Bobsmith84 16:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Should we give her her own article? Post-robot apperances include flashback, pom pom, and fan club. Bad Bad Guy 04:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

*ahem* Wikipedia:Abdi Loafing 04:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow, I didn't notice that Abdi LaRue is actually mentioned there. Just wanted to point out that he's a guy ;-) Loafing 04:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, TBC themselves don't know if Abdi a he or a she, but looks like it's short for Abdul, or a Biblical nme. Anyways, about the page - I think its should be created. Some references in other emails and being treated as someone who live in the Homestar Universe (can attend to a con hosted by characters along with Lem and Chimendez). Is anyone bold enough to make this page? — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 12:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] a ghostly intro song?

when i heard it (even the first line, before the ghost mention) i remember thinking "this tune sounds like something out of The Haunted Mansion" but i couldn't place exactly where (G-d it's been a long time...), and then when i heard "a pleasant ghost" it sort of confirmed it for me. Is there anyone who can confirm this? (I could be mistaken and it might be something from some ghost movie or something, just it reminded me of ghosts.) — Defender1031*Talk 23:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

hmm, doing some further reading, perhaps Grim Grinning Ghosts? I could see "green green grass" being similar enough, but i can't remember the tune, and the sound byte on 'kipedia is too short to be helpful in that regard. — Defender1031*Talk 23:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The intro song sounds similar to Sly and the Family Stone's "Everyday People."

[edit] Homsar

What happened to Homsar? Awexome 05:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean? He's the same random character he always was. — Defender1031*Talk 05:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I didn't realize at first that the Easter egg randomly switched between Homsar and Cardgage. Awexome 03:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

FWIW I've watched the video 6 times, 5 were Homsar -JamesDean 17:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

That's still possible. The odds of getting five Homsars out of six is 32 to 1, I think. – The Chort 22:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moronosphere

I dispute this funfact: ""Moronosphere" is a portmanteau of "moron" and Ionosphere." To begin with, it might just as well be Stratosphere, Blogosphere, etc. Also, It's a normal combination of two words after the pattern I've just shown. That's not a portmanteau how we understand it here at the wiki. Loafing 23:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

so you're saying it's "moron" with the suffix "osphere" at the end? makes sense to me. P.S. the IRC community misses you. — Defender1031*Talk 00:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep. I miss you guys, too. But I don't have the time right now! Loafing 00:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't Moronosphere compare, then, to Geographist (described as a combination of "Geographer and -ist (possibly geologist)"). I'd call Moronosphere a portmanteau. OptimisticFool 01:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, just use the same form as Geographist in the entry, then. -DAGRON 02:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Since "-ist" isn't a word, I don't think "geographist" counts as a portmanteau. The application of "portmanteau" (originally meaning a large suitcase with two compartments) to words is from "Through the Looking Glass," and Carroll gives it a clear definition there: "Well, slithy means lithe and slimy ... You see it's like a portmanteau—there are two meanings packed up into one word." "Geographist" doesn't fit that definition: it's just a silly variant on "geographer," with only that one meaning. Most of the things listed on the Portmanteaus page *do* combine two meanings in one word: carve-nival = carve + carnival, loadry = loading + laundry, etc.

[edit] Kingy of town

there should a metiontion on the king town page about the fact that king of town alway drawn fatter then he is

he's always drawn fatter than he is? huh? that's like saying that someone is old for their age. He's drawn the way he's drawn. — Defender1031*Talk 01:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

hE HAS ROLLS IN HIS BODY IN THE PICTURS THAT MEANS FATTER

what pictures? — Defender1031*Talk 02:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

This email and Trading cards at lest

First, can we work on the spelling? This isn't a chatroom, we're discussing stuff here and poorly spelled messages don't communicate well. Second, I'm not at all sure what anonny is on about. Take some time to really clearly express what it is you're trying to say, OK? There's no rush. And if it's regarding The King Of Town, you should post it on that article's talk page, not here. Thanks! - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the OP was trying to say that Strong Bad drew the King of Town fatter than he is in real life.

You have met the KOT in real life? And lived to tell the tale? Without being covered in... giblets? (Sarcasm aside, there IS no KOT in real life, he is as they draw him, and people gain and lose weight frequently throughout their lives.) - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, FCUSA real life, as oppose to Strong Bads comics.

[edit] bRAKING THE RULESSSSSS

Umm dose telling us Homsars's parents braking the rules showing no parrents even though they are a cup of coffe and a chipwich

We're not going to get an email answered by asking about Strong Bad's parents, but TBC are free to do whatever they like, including this. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

In spite of the unintelligibility of this comment, I think it might just be something worth thinking about. Usually, TBC, in Peanuts-style, intentionally avoid showing anyone's parents. And actually now that I think about it, this is one of quite a few times that parents are shown as inanimate objects. (army, The Li'l Brudder Show) Maybe someone should make a page about that or something.--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 04:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

And (although Pom Pom's parents have been (briefly) seen for real) an inanimate version of him/her/them was hypothetically hypothesized by SB in Family Resemblance. --Jay (Gobble) 04:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

Something happened to the article. Is it just me? EDIT: Never mind, fixed itself apparently.  :/

The article was vandalized. It's now been reverted to its original state. — Has Matt? (talk) 03:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geddup Noise

Article claims Geddup Noise is heard, it's clearly a Chairscoot. SS even says as much. - Quolnok 05:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

It means the same thing. They sound exactly alike. --DorianGray 06:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Cheat?

In one scene, The Cheat is sitting at the table participating in the fan club meeting. Very shortly afterward, he is seen helping Strong Bad carry his sub sandwich. Did The Cheat quickly leave off-screen, or is this an example of duplicate characters? --68.97.248.84 06:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to be duplicate characters -JamesDean 17:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

It could be either one, so to say it’s one or the other is speculation. I personally just assumed The Cheat got bored with Strong Sad's dumb meeting and went off to see what Strong Bad was up to, which turned out to be carrying a sub sandwich.--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 04:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I, too, think it's just impressive speed (though not nearly as much as Homestar's in No Hands on Deck!). --DorianGray 04:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Monteljohn

Could this be a reference to Ricardo Montalban, the actor famous for his roles in Fantasy Island, Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, and Freakazoid?

Nah, it's TTATOT. Sam the Man 23:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

No it isn't. Is it that hard to come up with a *real* argument against something instead of lazily throwing around a [[TTATOT]] whenever someone asks if something might be a reference? -YK 00:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC

I'll give you it's not technically TTATOT, but it's close. Montel and John are both names in their own right... if it's a serious reference to Ricardo Montalban, then it's just as likely to be a serious reference to Montel Williams, the talk show host, not to mention anyone named John. I really don't think speculations as to the inspiration for a nonsense name in a non-sequitur belong on the page, regardless. The relevance is questionable at best to begin with, even before we consider that it's just speculation.Nightsong81 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not necessarily arguing the merit of this fact (I have no opinion one way or the other on it, really, though apparently there *is* another alleged "reference" to Ricardo Montalban elsewhere on the site... Quote of the Week, I think), so much as... well, I'm sick to death of someone (often an anon, though not always) proposing a fun fact, and someone who's not-quite-a-newbie-but-not-quite-an-old-timer shooting it down with a lazy, though nevertheless "Totally Final"-sounding "[[TTATOT]]", without bothering to mention what the "That" or the "The Other Thing" *are*. Now, as Qermaq said, the burden of proof is *usually* on the one proposing the fact... but not always. See, the way the anon worded his original post, it wasn't a cocky-sounding "I think this is a reference to this", it was more like a "What do you think?". In other words, since he *asked*, it seems to me it would be up to someone else to disprove it. And "Nah, it's TTATOT." is simply not a very convincing argument. -YK 09:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. If you can cite me anything else that remotely sounds like Monteljohn, then I'll concede it's probably a TTATOT. Otherwise, I think you need to seriously consider my question and give a reasoned (i.e., not lazy) answer.

Okay, it looks like the old "TTATOT" excuse is as of right now completely unsupported. If no one can give me a good reason not to, I'm going to add it. I am getting kind of tired of the way references are just tossed out for little to no good reason these days.

You have been given good reasons why it might easily not be a reference to Montelban. What more do you need? The burden of proof is on you to support this, not us to prove it wrong. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

This, as with a lot of "references" in the toons, I think aren't so much references as they are just random crap that popped into their heads when they wrote the dialog. Sometimes I wonder if they even bother writing the dialog, and Matt just makes it all up off the cuff as he's recording it for the toon. I really doubt that for every mention or almost mention of something in the real world, TBC sits down and seriously says "Let's see... What obscure pop culture refrence can we make in this one? How about Ricardo Montalban? The fans will love it!" My point is, maybe Ricardo Montalban crossed Matt's mind at that moment when he came up with the word Monteljohn, but it's just silly to call it an intentional refrence. At best, we could say "Monteljohn sounds like Montalban."--.Johnny Jupiter! ^talk _cont 01:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

But don't you see, that is still referential. Intention is not a pert of reference. It might not have been scripted in advance, but Matt might come out with an ad lib they end up keeping which references something. Still, I can see too many exceptions here that tuly make this TTATOT. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Might I add, the toon makes a reference to Star Trek so it doesn't seem out of place.

[edit] pop-up book = deleteheads?

Anyone else think the idea of calling the fan club deleteheads might partially be inspired by the poor quality sound in strong bad's pop-up book? specifically when strong bad repeats the garbled "deleted" as sounding like "the lake head?"

That's an extreme stretch. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually thought of this connection. I don't think it's a huge stretch, but I don't think it's particularly likely that the similarity was intentional. Heimstern Läufer 04:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I think they sound similar. Unbalanced 00:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dittoheads = Deleteheads

what do you think about this?

I think it's already been discussed. -YK 22:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Last Two Threads

I thinkthis shows clearly that any possible proposed origin of "deleteheads" is TTATOT. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "controversial"

A description of slash fiction as "controversial" was recently removed from the article [1], with a user implying that it was homophobic. I believe this is a wholly inadequate and incorrect reason to remove this. Slash fiction is clearly controversial (the Wikipedia article discusses its controversy, and is cited), and whether or not one is homophobic has nothing to do with this. On the other hand, there may be room to debate whether we need the "controversial" qualifier at all, so I'm bringing this here rather than reverting. Heimstern Läufer 16:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That was refering to me, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone by my coments. I, and people that I know have done Slash fictions, and was naturally shocked to find it was concidered a bad thing. Our stories didn't cause any problems, and where merley just an attempt at story writing. Sorry if I upset anyone with my acusations.

Also, I need to ask... am I taking this E-Mail too seriously? I am a fan of H*R and I know it's a comedy site, but I just found the entire Fan Fiction (I have the time to say both words too.) section a bit too biased, like it only focused on negative aspects, or the times when positive aspects turned bad. There's plenty of fictions out there which are genuingly good, and could easilly have been made into the show themselves was it not for copywright, there's too much hate of fictions these days - so I kind of took my frustrations out on this site. Sorry.

That was pretty long wasn't it? MJN SEIFER 17:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I was the one who added the popular but controversial part to that fact. The person who added it described it as "another common affliction of fanfiction", and I was trying for a less biased wording. But I don't think it matters whether it says it's controversial or not. —Shwoo 02:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok Shwoo. I am sorry for my bad reaction, I took it completly the wrong way, and I understand now what was meant by the statment, and I'm sorry I acused you of being "homophobia" as well. I tend to overreact when it looks like something I deem as unfair is happening (as you probably remember) I am trying to stop that though. MJN SEIFER 16:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Grade A Gray Day

This is frustrating, because I really feel like the title "A Grade A Gray Day" is an obscure reference that I'm supposed to know, but I can't access it. What's tickling at me is an old issue of Games Magazine, probably 1980s, back when they were still owned by Playboy. There was some article, puzzle, or contest about short, amateur fiction. I think it fit into Games because it revolved around punning and wordplay. (I seem to remember a story about a man who had labeled his own chick, which ended with the awful spoof, "Somewhere out there, there's a pullet with my name on it.") And my memory is insisting that a story called "A Grade A Gray Day" was central to it, as though it were a classic of bad literature that the rest of the piece was trying to imitate. But Google searches on that exact phrase bring up mostly song lyrics and lists of two-word homophones; nothing like what I'm looking for. Does this ring any bells for anyone? --TheNicestGuy 14:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, all I can scour from the web was that GAMES Magazine didn't exist before 1991, but that's just game of the year. So, I'm off the team. See ya. But probably they didn't publish their records from before then or something. I got other business. Can someone else take this task up? --Homfrog 22:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congradulations, you've just collected a turkey club *cheers*

I'm almost certain that the crowd heard when SB compares turkey and turkey clubs is from Monty Python and the Holy Grail- particually the PC game... close enough for a reference? That Game Dude 386 04:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

And there was much rejoicing.
movie: i don't think so, but i'd leave it up to someone familiar with the computer game, if there's that much of a difference. The Knights Who Say Ni 04:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Yellow cape. New Article.

This is the first time Strong Sad has actually been dressed in yellow, if I'm not mistaken. He was called yellow in Cool Things (as Dripping Yellow Madness) and in Fall Float Parade (by Coach Z not recognizing him). Does that means? Is there enough to make this officially an article? If so, I'll start the article by calling it "Yellow Strong Sad". --   PURPLE  SHARD * 17:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the color of clothing a character wears would constitute an article. --DENNIS 19:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Scalawaggery

Does the email sender type two apostrophes or a quotation mark in the middle of its? (it''s vs. it"s) It looks more like the latter to me, but all of our transcriptions have it as the two apostrophes. So which is it? The Knights Who Say Ni 20:28, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

It looks identical to two apostrophes to me, but the only way to properly compare would be if we had ever seen quotation marks on the Lappy. Thing is, the only time that even comes to mind where quotation marks were seen on any of Strong Bad's computers is videographer, which is not a Lappy e-mail and doesn't use the same font. Hm... --Jay (Gobble) 21:48, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Found one. [EDIT: Which should actually be redesign, sorry about any confusion.] And from the spacing one can tell that "fan club" has two apostrophes, not a quotation mark. --Jay (Gobble) 21:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

It's a good thing I knew which email you were talking about. You basically stated my thought process for how I would be convinced. And zooming in, the one in redesign does look closer together than the instance in this email. The Knights Who Say Ni 22:01, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Right, sorry, I meant "redesign", not "no loafing". Hey, they both discuss the same topic at least. >_> --Jay (Gobble) 22:03, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Re "the only way to properly compare would be if we had ever seen quotation marks on the Lappy": Umm... for situations like this, can't we just decompile the Flash to find out what the embedded text is? — Defender1031*Talk 16:24, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Is there anyone still active that happens to have a Flash decompiler? — MichaelXX2 16:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I've decompiled the SWF, but I don't have flash on my PC, so I'm downloading a trial copy. Dagoth 02:31, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

This is what appears in the flash file (copied verbatim from it):

Does your e-mail show have it''s own fan club? Whose the president of it? And what do they do? Best regards, David, Northern Ireland.

As you can see, it has the two apostrophes. Dagoth 02:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

I've added an invisicomment to the section in the source. Dagoth 04:33, 13 January 2013 (UTC)