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[edit] A few things

A few things. Firstly, the cast list gives Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad whereas the Easter Egg section gives Senor Cardgage. Which should it be?

  • EDIT: Since it's been almost a week since I posted this and I haven't had any feedback, I changed CCOSB in the cast list to Senor Cardgage, just to get rid of the contradiction. If you think they should both be CCOSB, by all means change it.

Finally, I removed this fun fact:

  • The Prince of Town easter egg, which shows him asking if anyone will claim the lifetime supply of fishsticks, is there to show why he's so fat. He ate the lifetime supply of fishsticks and became the King of Town we all know and hate.

...on the grounds that it should be self-evident. --Upsilon

[edit] Cave Quest

In the DVD version, they talk about a game they made called "Cave Quest" for the Apple II. Is this game available for download anywhere? Did the Brothers Chaps say anything else about this title?

Agentjs03 12:44, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Saying "e-mail" 100 times

Can anyone confirm that he actually says e-mail 100 times? I got 96, but it's hard to count... I just pulled up calculator and hit enter every time, but you get into a groove and accidentally hit it twice or so when he says, "eeeeee-maaaail..." --favetvshows1x3 17:22, 10 Oct 2004 (MST)

  • I spent a good twenty minutes and counted the emails in a .wav editing program. Yes, he DOES say "e-mail" 100 times. Phew. I'm...parched. I'm not sure if this is a Fun Fact or not, but I went ahead and added it. Feel free to change my wording (I mean, how do you refer to the word "e-mail" in an e-mail?) as you may see fit. --Bellatrix 18:48, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Combolations reference

This claim in fun facts looks dubious: When Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad says "Many combolations, Elizagerth", it's a reference to the credits in japanese cartoon. ???

Have you read the transcript for japanese cartoon? Check the credits. -- Tom 19:43, 18 Oct 2004 (MST)

[edit] Zagnut

Senor Cardgage is definitely eating a Zagnut. This also coincides with the house that gave sucky treats. --128.135.171.66 22:51, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Emails (DECLINED)

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

  • Decline Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for 50 emails)? --Fourth of Jay (Fireworks!) 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- tomstiff 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- Tony Stony 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Deline Who knows, who cares? The Pardack
  • Decline. How did the Compy know that Strong Bad asked for a glass of water? It's a cartoon, spammit, don't take it so literally! --Upset_Your_Balance 05:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Sorry. Ugh! These obnoxious losers and their overly agressive declines. I'm not like that. Sorry, but suspension of disbelief must be a factor in this. --VolatileChemical 06:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Declining with a visCOSity. This is not fun, and it's not a fact. - aaronak 23:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Bad has a list of the e-mails he has done on his computer. You know, the list he usually has a scroll buttons song for? Duh-cline. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Discount Flashback Warehouse (DECLINED)

In the Discount Flashback Warehouse Easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole Easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.

  • Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants... Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --Jay 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- mibluvr13 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment from original poster: After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad talks like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact rephrased: In the Discount Flashback Warehouse Easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
  • Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? Decriminoted (decline).' ISlayedTheKerrek
  • Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's what I'm basing the whole thing on.
  • Decline Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of theme park. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Comment One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of TV.
  • D3kl1n3!! I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --kerrek slaya 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man! Um, it's also a second with Kerrek Slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before Senor Mortgage. Check your facts, folks. ---the spludge 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment from original poster: Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
    • Note on the characters: Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who resembles Senor Cardgage. --The Real Zajac 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
  • DEE-CLINE! Aslo note that:
(A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad.
(B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here.

TakuaKaita600 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Universe of Energy

The way that Strong Bad widens the screen is a reference to Ellen's Energy Adventure at Epcot in Walt Disney World. Ellen DeGeneres widens the screen by saying "Left side! Right side! A little wider.. there ya go!"

Posted on: 16:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 12:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 13–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/flashback.

[edit] Remove useless comment on main page

One of the comments on the main flashback page says that Strong Bad says "My very own a The Cheat" but that the text is "My very own The Cheat." This is useless, because this is just Strong Bad's weird accent. He often calls The Cheat "uh-The Cheat". For an example see for kids, when he asks, "Can you say, uh-The Cheat?"

It's very useless indeed, but it's not uh-The Cheat, it's a The Cheat. As in 'a book' or 'a Tragic Clown Dog'. Kvb 15:56, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] very not-so-low prices

Do you think that Strong Bad's "How can I make these prices any lower" could be a reference to how Wal Mart says they have low prices but they're not?

Wal-Mart has great prices. I got a Gamecube there for fifty cents less and two games more than at Best Buy. --homestar3.14 04:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but once they raised the prices on Slimfast for 1 week by a dollar and "lowered" it to the original price. --Ookelaylay 21:24, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

A long time ago, shortly after I joined, I added a remark about how Sir Strong Bad's shaving off half his mustache would hurt, since it is shown he has bones in it in That a Ghost? Why? --Ookelaylay 21:26, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Why what? —FireBird|Talk 21:27, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Yeah? Thechamp

Why was it assasinated? --Ookelaylay 12:59, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Because it is nothing but speculation. What if he just had bones stuck inside his mustache? Don't try to be scientific with things that make no reasonable sense in the first place. (like mustaches having bones) - Joshua
Yep.

-Alex H.

[edit] bubs stand

  • "If bubs is there why are Mr. Bland and Señor not under his stand?" I posted this on the bored and it gets removed. should it be removed or not?--69.202.82.162 15:38, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
  • I think it should be removed, because we only see Bubs, not Bubs' Concession Stand. As was pointed out in the reversion notes, Bubs could've been around before opening his Stand (I can't imagine what he did with his time). Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 15:42, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
  • It must be so, because in the original book, which must have happened after Flashback as The Cheat is out of the egg, Senor and Mr. Bland were still not yet crushed by the stand. They must have gotten crushed sometime btween the first book and Where is my Hat At. Geshmalder 15:56, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
  • Or they could have survived getting crushed. Who knows? As I said above, don't try to be scientific with things that make no scientific sense. - Joshua
  • The whole story could be apocryphal. Strong Bad has a history of making up whatever he feels like, and we all seem to be overlooking the fact that, supposedly, he and Coach Z were playing a game on the moon and rode a sweet, sweet rainbow bridge back to earth. Science! I said science again! — It's dot com 16:23, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] E-mails Strong Bad didn't answer

When the Compy said Strong Bad had answered 100 e-mails, that's not entirely true. He answered two in 50 emails, two more in 2 emails, and you could say he answered more than one in huttah! (although he didn't answer any in anything or mile). Depending on your definition of "answering" an email, he read extras in spring cleaning (although they were promptly deleted). If you count by each toon being an e-mail, then he still answered in excess of 103 e-mails, since the three bonus e-mails on the DVD are presumably pre-100th. In addition, there is a "preview email" in the Toons Menu and never before seen emails in personal favorites. So really, at the time of the hundredth e-mail, Strong Bad actually has answered more than 100 e-mails. The hundredth email was actually answered somewhere between Emails 83-94.

Just thought it might be worth mentioning that SB technically didn't answer two e-mails: mile (where The Cheat took it over, and technically that wasn't a real e-mail either), and anything (where Homestar poured Mountain Dew on the Compy's keyboard).

Yeah, those are already mentioned in the quoted item. --DorianGray
Holy crap! I've forgotten how to read!! (Sorry, I think I'll stop with the comments for today.) -- KieferSkunk 21:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think that by "100th email", they mean "100th episode of the email show." Because, not only has he answered more than 100 on the site, I find it hard to believe that he would have never answered any emails on his own before the email show started. And bonus episodes don't count. That's kinda what bonus means. --Antisexy 07:28, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The PoT's Quote

I always thought that in the Easter egg, the Prince of Town said, "Well, no one claimed this lifetime supply of fishsticks..." instead of "Will no one claim this lifetime supply of fishsticks?" Just thought it was worth noting. Has Matt? (talk) 04:14, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Triva is wrong

The first bullet mentions that strongbad never wore a shirt after finding out that homestrar was wearing the same shirt he was, but he wears one in different town.

That could be counted as part of Strong Bad's imagination, and therefore non-canon... However, the real proof comes from that that was the original idea for the episode that they later scrapped. Therefore, it's not accurate at all. It's still notable, of course, because it was the original idea for the episode. --DorianGray

[edit] Lowercase i's

Is it just me, or are the I's in the two "Wierd"s lowercase? It isn't mentioned in the transcript.thorax.pnginlion: 03:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 150th e-mail

This makes you think, will Strong Bad do anything for his 150th email? It's obvious he'd do something for the 50th, 100th, or 200th, but 150th? Feb. 21, 2006


yep, prolly so. prolly some kind of extended flashback or class reunion. csours 07:39, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I bet they will too. ;) Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 13:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment concerning the declined fact Discount Flashback Warehouse

  • just sayin': Dang, you people are vicious with your declines. Well, it may not matter anymore, but I agree with this guy. Strong Bad was obviously not talking in his usual voice, and his voice did indeed sound very reminiscent of Senor Cardgage. Strong Bad says often that he thinks Senor is so cool, so why wouldn't he imitate him?

    And as far as them being different versions of the same character: Like Stinkoman and Sterrance, Senor Cardgage is a character that was created as a variation on Strong Bad to satisfy someone's question, but, just to be funny, was made into his own character. Creepy Comb-Over guy and Senor Cardgage have to be the same person, because he wears Strong Bad's mask (indicating that he's the variant of Strong Bad) but he's still referred to as Senor Cardgage in various toons. Yet on more than on occasion, Strong Bad is seen talking to Senor Cardgage (indicating that the variant and the original are two separate entities).



So in conclusion, Senor Cardgage is his own separate person, and Strong Bad likes him so much that he imitates him in this easter egg. BIGGITY!--Antisexy 05:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

He was created in much the same way as Homsar, via homsar. A misspelling leads to a short little joke character, leads to a full blown main character. Thunderbird 06:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Wait. If CCOSB and Senor Cardgage are the same person, why does Strong Bad refer to them by different names in "kind of cool"? --Uncle Bill 17:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
They did have separate pages at one point. --Ced 18:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

But they've been merged. --Uncle Bill 23:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "grrl"......or"grrrl"

I was just wondering, the word "grrl"(or "grrrl") has appeared somewhat throughout [Homestar Runner] and I though there should be a section about "grrl".....(or "grrrl")

I would like to direct you to this page. Has Matt? (talk) 01:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Accent?

How do we get the email being read in the old accent? Sounds like the current voice to me, aside from "joo" for "you". When Matt intends to do the old accent, it's unmistakeable. If no good arguments come in, I'll reword that part of the transcript. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bob "homestar duckshirt" dylan

homestar sounds a good bit like bob dylan as he counts his 10 steps. csours 07:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? Like, in any specific song? How do you compare them? --Jnelson09 21:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External link

The link to http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2961 just brings me to what seems to be a search engine. Judging by what else is on the page, I'd say this is probably a case of domain parking. The line "This page provided to the domain owner free by Sedo's Domain Parking" down at the bottom of the page also seems to support this. Anyway, just letting you know. 67.78.136.222 06:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)(KaloFoxfire)

[edit] Stuck in his Craw

hey, what does it mean to get something stuck in your craw? and should it be mentioned here under remarks or something? ---COLA 05:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Here's what dictionary.com has to say about it. --DorianGray

[edit] Verifying my Edit

I just put on the following, because I thought it was a good idea.

*This E-mail also explains why the King of Town is so fat and where The Cheat came from.

I'm putting it on the discussion page to see if anyone disagrees with me. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 19:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Gosh, this fact seems familiar. I think it has come and gone before, but I don't know. —BazookaJoe 19:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We've got this season,last season,and stuff I just made up!

What is the Last season(Tandy) email supposed to be?(guest)

Did you check the transcript. "Last season. {He gestures to the right where a screen from "band names" appears.} "—גשמלדרברגן 23:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rainbow Bridge

Could the rainbow bridge refer to Care Bears, who used a rainbow to come from Care-A-Lot to Earth? Retromaniac 01:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It could be, but there are other rainbow bridges out there as well. So it would be speculation. Loafing 02:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I think this should be included in the "Real-World" references, because I'm sure a lot of people will remember the Care Bears doing that when this email is viewed or when they read this page.

See, I thought it was a Katamari Damacy reference, so unless we can get a definite noting should be added.

Well, it certainly couldn't be that, since Katamari didn't come out in the US until a good 6 months after this toon. --DorianGray 04:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WIIIIIDE SCREEEEN!

The way that Strongbad says "WIIIIIDE SCREEEEEN" could be a reference to Universe Of Energy, a ride located at Epcot in Walt Disney World. Ellen DeGeneres says this the same way before the screen widens. DNA Evidence 00:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Do you know when the ride was made? When I went (in 2005), I don't recall hearing about any such ride. Because if it came after, it's not a reference. ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 00:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes. It was DEFINATELY made before 2005. Wikipedia article! dna evidence(t · c)

[edit] Lowercase I

Because it's all written, does it count? Awexome Cross 17:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modestly Hot Easter Egg

Should Modestly Hot Homsar be in the Characters list?--ONESTOP 02:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

nope, pictures don't count. — Defender1031*Talk 02:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
She made a debut though.

[edit] Time Paradox?

How would Old-Timey Strong Bad know that present-day Strong Bad would read 100 emails? In fact, how did he even know Strong Bad was reading emails? The great Reversinator!

Basically just because it's a cartoon and the laws of not knowing the future don't apply if it's funny for them not to. Heimstern Läufer 14:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Just repeat to yourself "it's just a show. I should really just relax."--Jellote wuz here 14:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Lier?

when SB said "I lost count around... 51." Tht is not true. proof? SBemail 91. hIs intro song is "And coming in at number 91, it's EMAAIL!!!!!!

That's already noted in a couple different places at least. it's actually been on this page since the days of the old wiki. The Knights Who Say Ni 18:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Email song

Can I please have the chords for the email song? Dagoth 15:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Mr Strong Bad

When Homestar says, "Hello! How do you like my egg, Mr Strong Bad?" he says the last three words in a deeper, completely brain-dead voice. It can also be heard when he says, "WHAT?" and on Main Page 20 when he says, "Meet the characters!". What should we call this voice?

Nothing. If we're going to start noting every time a character speaks with a minor variation in tone, {slightly lower pitched} we're {back to normal} going to have {slightly lower pitched} a {emphasized} lot {back to normal} of unreadable {slightly lower pitched, then back to normal on the second syllable} transcripts. — Defender1031*Talk 19:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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