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:::::It's noted in [[Homestar Ruiner#Remarks]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 22:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC) | :::::It's noted in [[Homestar Ruiner#Remarks]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 22:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Since it's unlikely that TBC were unable to change The Paper to New Paper due to tedious legal reasons (they had full control of the project), I can only offer the suggestion that due to popular demand by fans, or TBC just missed Ol' Papes, they decided to bring it back. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 21:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::Since it's unlikely that TBC were unable to change The Paper to New Paper due to tedious legal reasons (they had full control of the project), I can only offer the suggestion that due to popular demand by fans, or TBC just missed Ol' Papes, they decided to bring it back. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 21:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
- | :::::Is there anything in Homestar Ruiner that happened specifically AFTER the paper? if not, the episode may be set in a time a few months ago. | + | :::::Is there anything in Homestar Ruiner that happened specifically AFTER the paper? if not, the episode may be set in a time a few months ago. [[User:Joanassie|Joanassie]] <!-- just signed --!> |
::::::Two things come to mind here - the first appearance of [[sloshy]] during the [[concert]] sbemail (though given that they formed 7 years prior in the timeline, whether Strong Bad had heard of them or not at this point is debatable), and the use of JELA-Ton™ at the track's pool, as seen in [[winter pool]]. That would be a little more obvious - Strong Bad claimed that he "loves" JELA-Ton upon picking it up, so that implied that he had indeed used it before. [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 20:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC) | ::::::Two things come to mind here - the first appearance of [[sloshy]] during the [[concert]] sbemail (though given that they formed 7 years prior in the timeline, whether Strong Bad had heard of them or not at this point is debatable), and the use of JELA-Ton™ at the track's pool, as seen in [[winter pool]]. That would be a little more obvious - Strong Bad claimed that he "loves" JELA-Ton upon picking it up, so that implied that he had indeed used it before. [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 20:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::And there's Gel-Arshie to back that point up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}} | :::::::And there's Gel-Arshie to back that point up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}} | ||
+ | ::::::::There's an idea going around in my head that says that Strong Sad may have been a fan of sloshy for a while, and another idea (or fact) that says Jela-Ton isn't Red Flavour Translucent Dessert Related Substance. By name, anyways. ~~~~ | ||
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Balloon Manimals
Could it be a refererence to NBC's short-lived Manimal TV show? Bad Bad Guy 22:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are you talking about shapeshifter? --
Lazylaces Talk 00:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, I'm talking about the part pf this game's preview where Homestar says balloon manimals will appear at his party. Bad Bad Guy 01:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Copy/Paste
Umm... this is exactly the description from the Teltale Games website. Shouldn't this be... original? It looks really bad when it's made with a couple right clicks.
Well, they know better than we do. When the actual episode is put up, will probably put a more fitting explanation on the page. --DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 00:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Is it really word-for-word? Yeah, I agree that we should try to summarize the plot rather than repeat the same paragraph verbatim.
Trey56 01:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I did my best to write a different summary...
Trey56 02:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I did my best to write a different summary...
Places
Should there be a places line like other toon articles? Just wondering. (Obvious place is the track field.) ColdReactive
- Let's wait until we know all the places in the game. Bad Bad Guy 01:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Which butt?
The butt link goes to a disambiguation page. Which article should this link to? --70.143.29.70 02:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it should link to anything in this case. Is linking to twees is good enough? DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 02:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd think so. --70.143.29.70 02:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Change "announcement"?
For some reason, when i read this, I thought the game was announced early for some reason. Would we be able to have "gameplay trailer" for this instead? --70.143.29.70 02:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hm, we certainly don't want to mislead people. Better now?
Trey56 03:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- What about "preview"? --70.143.29.70 11:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Which PP?
PP could refer to either Pom Pom or Peacey P, couldn't it? DEI
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- Or Pan Pan. Or Peter Parker, the Pied Piper, Power Points, PowerPoint, PayPal... (And more!) Pom Pom is the most likely, because he's a main character. Also, his character video uses
vcr_pp
as part of its URL (and Coach Z's usesvcr_cz
). --DorianGray 07:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)- Yeah, but Coach Z and Peacey P are seen together more often than Coach Z and Pom Pom. There's more of an affiliation between the two. Dementedc 11:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- On the contrary, Coach Z and Peacey P have been seen together once. But since they're main characters, any toon that includes all main characters necessarily includes Coach Z and Pom Pom, frequently at the same time. --Jay (Gobble) 17:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see what you mean. I'm just saying that Coach Z would probably be more likely to hang out with Peacey P than with Pom Pom.Dementedc 19:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- On the contrary, Coach Z and Peacey P have been seen together once. But since they're main characters, any toon that includes all main characters necessarily includes Coach Z and Pom Pom, frequently at the same time. --Jay (Gobble) 17:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but Coach Z and Peacey P are seen together more often than Coach Z and Pom Pom. There's more of an affiliation between the two. Dementedc 11:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Toad Weasel
What exactly does Homestar say before he kicks the phone? Even though it's not too much of sense make, I think he said "play of the low-lynched-toad weasel" --70.143.29.70 22:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm prooty sure that's what he said, now that I hear it again. --Das654 19:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's "plight of the low-lands toad weasel". Hooray for the in-game subtitles! --DorianGray 19:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Illegal op?
When I access the Telltale page linked at the bottom, I get an error along the lines of "The Shockwave plugin performed an illegal operation. You are strongly urged to restart Firefox." Anyone else? - Qermaq - (T/C) 23:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- OMIGOSH THE MUNICIPALITY IS COMING! RUN, QERMAQ, RUN!!! Maybe update Flash? Check for a new version of Firefox? I dunno. I can view it just fine in Firefox. --Jay (Gobble) 23:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Any specifics on the error? Or is it just that message? --70.143.29.70 00:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Transcript
Hey guys...should we really put the transcript out here? Couldn't we make a page that's just like "Homestar Ruiner Gameplay Video Transcript" or something less long. Or, when it comes out, are we just going to leave the transcript there? Won't we put something more related to the actual episode itself instead of the Gameplay trailer? DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's okay for now. But as you point out, when the game is released, the gameplay trailer transcript will not be relevant in this format, either on this page or on its own page.
- At some point, we need to figure out if/how we're going to transcribe all the dialogue from the game. But that wouldn't go on this page, after the episode comes out, this page will be more of an overview, like the Peasant's Quest and Thy Dungeonman III pages are.
Trey56 03:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since the game itself will have multiple branches, a transcript of any type won't make sense. I can see being done with this game (along with the others in the series), where certain set pieces are transcribed (for example, Homestar Ruiner is suppose to open with Strong Bad singing and going around the house) like Stinkoman 20X6. Beyond that. the best we could do would be a walkthrough or hints on triggering Easter eggs. However, since things like the trailer/preview are fixed, a transcript of those makes sense. wbwolf (t | ed) 04:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, if you want to contribute to the discussion over what to transcribe and how to do it, I raised this issue on this talk page. – The Chort 16:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think the transcript should be done as a spoiler, as in typed all in white, and when someone wants the surprise to be ruined, they highlight the letters so they can read it. I've seen that done before. -->
Parrothead1
11:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think the transcript should be done as a spoiler, as in typed all in white, and when someone wants the surprise to be ruined, they highlight the letters so they can read it. I've seen that done before. -->
- By the way, if you want to contribute to the discussion over what to transcribe and how to do it, I raised this issue on this talk page. – The Chort 16:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since the game itself will have multiple branches, a transcript of any type won't make sense. I can see being done with this game (along with the others in the series), where certain set pieces are transcribed (for example, Homestar Ruiner is suppose to open with Strong Bad singing and going around the house) like Stinkoman 20X6. Beyond that. the best we could do would be a walkthrough or hints on triggering Easter eggs. However, since things like the trailer/preview are fixed, a transcript of those makes sense. wbwolf (t | ed) 04:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I think we should move this page to Homestar Ruiner Trailers and use this article only to transcribe and explain parts of the actual SBCG4AP level. BBG 02:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- We should talk about that when the time comes. In the meantime, it shall rest in peace. --
Super Martyo boing! 05:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Related topic: As part of the announcement on the Telltale Blogs, it was mentioned that a second gameplay trailer was coming out in the near future, and part of it was featured in the "On The Spot" episode. (It focuses on Strong Bad talking to Marzipan at the party, and then shows some additional activities that Strong Bad can do.) I suspect, that since this is the first episode of a new series, there might be multiple transcripts for this episode. Any thoughts on how to incorporate those into this page specifically? wbwolf (t | ed) 03:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- The second gameplay trailer was already released...remember "Around the Field"? DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 23:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Reopening topic- In the interim I've played two Sam & Max games (Abe Lincoln Must Die! and Ice Station Santa), and I've found the way that Telltale handles the Walkthrough and Did You Try? sections especially to be good models on how we want to model how we handle the game pages. Like Stinkoman 20X6, it might be necessary to subdivide that page, but Walkthrough for the main plot, and then hints for eggs or side question locations (such as manual pages, costumes, index cards, etc.) would be the way to go. wbwolf (t | ed) 22:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- (Try again) Looking over the new Homestar Ruiner page, it looks like they will do the same thing as they do with the Sam & Max games: providing a walkthrough and hints on things to try for Easter eggs or funny responses. Obviously, we should link to these official walkthroughs, rather than reinventing the wheel. So, what should this page be reserved for? My thought is to have it focus on transcripts (trailers and set pieces), as well as documenting Fun Facts. wbwolf (t | ed) 21:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I think the best thing to do is to include one transcript for each place he visits. BBG 22:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- IF we transcribe every line, I agree with this. --Jay (Gobble) 00:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Given the amount of dialogue in this game, both obvious and really, really obscure, that sounds like potentially risking death by transcription. Personally, a quick and brief summary of the events in the game (and not specifically how to finish it, like the walkthrough) would be more than sufficient. Kind of like what you'd get on Wikipedia, except seeing as we're NOT Wikipedia, we can go just a smidgen more in-depth with it. --Shadow Hog 04:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Transcript change?
Hey guys, it's 20X6MAN, I forgot to log in. Anyways, I watched the trailer, and you might need to change the transcript. If you watch it again, you'll see what I mean.
- I only watched the first few seconds, but he's right. The trailer *was* changed pretty much exactly to what was added to the article. It wasn't actually random vandalism. -YK
03:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Huh, how odd. Also note that the scoreboard now reads "OFFICIAL RACE TIMES". The original version (or at least the fact that it changed) should be noted somewhere, of course. --DorianGray 03:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- I just watched it, and nothing seems to have changed. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, sorry for thinking it was vandalism. Weird that they changed it. And I had liked that Strong Bad had referenced the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. Oh well. Homestar-Winner (talk) 03:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Uh...I'm not seein' anything. We're talking about the gameplay vid, right? DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 05:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. This video right here. --DorianGray 05:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm seeing the "old" version of it. It doesn't do any of the things that the transcript says now. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 05:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I cannot help you clear your browser cache. No, I'm not in India. --DorianGray 05:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- But before you do, you may want to save a copy of the old version in case these wiki guys intend to keep a mirror of it. — Defender1031*Talk 13:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I cannot help you clear your browser cache. No, I'm not in India. --DorianGray 05:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm seeing the "old" version of it. It doesn't do any of the things that the transcript says now. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 05:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. This video right here. --DorianGray 05:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Uh...I'm not seein' anything. We're talking about the gameplay vid, right? DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 05:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, sorry for thinking it was vandalism. Weird that they changed it. And I had liked that Strong Bad had referenced the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. Oh well. Homestar-Winner (talk) 03:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- I just watched it, and nothing seems to have changed. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Huh, how odd. Also note that the scoreboard now reads "OFFICIAL RACE TIMES". The original version (or at least the fact that it changed) should be noted somewhere, of course. --DorianGray 03:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
New video
There's a new video on the TellTale games website for SBCG4AP. Should we make a new page for it or put everything on this page? -Peter
- Since it's the same game and the purpose of the page is to document the game itself, the second transcript should be put here. wbwolf (t | ed) 20:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Hallelujah!!! I can Hardly BREATHE!!!
Yessss! Finally! Im so excited! It comes out Monday! Rats... I'll be gone for a while... so I'll get it after I get back from Wyoming. BUT IM HAVIN A PARTY ON MY TALK PAGE!!! Parrothead1
Okay, chill. --Das654 19:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
No Eyes On Deck
I got a glitch after playing through the tutorial. Homestar's eyes are gone on the Main-Page-style title screen. I have a screenshot. His eyes only appear when he says "Wait, is it my turn?" on the settings button, when his eyelids are lowered. Is it just me? (PC Version) OptimisticFool 18:19, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I managed to get myself a similar glitch with Strong Bad's eyes disappearing after watching (or skipping through, as it was) the preview for Strong Badia The Free. I think they're just random texture glitches. - C.Olimar788 21:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- According to TTG, this is a problem with older versions of DirectX. Try updating to the latest version. wbwolf (t | ed) 21:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- The installer supposedly did that.
OptimisticFool 22:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- The installer supposedly did that.
That Papers Alive!?
The original paper shows up every now and then to give instructions in the game. It's definetely the original one. Did it come back to life? -TheDenzel (not signed in)
- The game has been in progress for a while. Probably since before The Paper died. --Jay (Gobble) (definitely signed in)
- Not that I mean to purposefully contradict you, but The Paper occurred June 11, 2007. I'm sure the email was being created before that. It's not completely unlikely that this the game was at least planned at this time, but you'd think if they knew this would come out after 'ol Papes died that they'd make it the New Paper. —NFITC1
talk 19:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Okay? But shouldn't this still be documented somewhere? --TheDenzel again (not signed in)
- It's noted in Homestar Ruiner#Remarks.
BBG 22:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's noted in Homestar Ruiner#Remarks.
- Since it's unlikely that TBC were unable to change The Paper to New Paper due to tedious legal reasons (they had full control of the project), I can only offer the suggestion that due to popular demand by fans, or TBC just missed Ol' Papes, they decided to bring it back. – The Chort 21:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Is there anything in Homestar Ruiner that happened specifically AFTER the paper? if not, the episode may be set in a time a few months ago. Joanassie
- Okay? But shouldn't this still be documented somewhere? --TheDenzel again (not signed in)
- Not that I mean to purposefully contradict you, but The Paper occurred June 11, 2007. I'm sure the email was being created before that. It's not completely unlikely that this the game was at least planned at this time, but you'd think if they knew this would come out after 'ol Papes died that they'd make it the New Paper. —NFITC1