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[edit] YTMND

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - Volbeat A The Cheat 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --Narwaffle 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.
Get rid of it?

[edit] Phone cord

But it's not Dangeresque's phone

As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - Volbeat A The Cheat 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to Disconnected Phone. S. What ever. --Homfrog 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.
I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on replacement?--DumDe 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!
meh meh meh meh meh meh meh translation: i say its a refrance User:Mr.Cheaterson
Based on the fact that pretty much all telephones are disconnected, I'd say it was on purpose.User:the_snitch_2 I pwn

[edit] "Or" or "For"?

I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. ModestlyHotGirl 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.
I'd recommend putting a footnote after the word in the transcript saying that it could be either. I'd put it there myself, but I don't know how, and my search for help has been fruitless. -Unknownwarrior33 22:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's my logica-thingy that proves it's "Or": If Homestar had been able to steal Strong Bad's personal identity by typing in his number, then it would easily be accesible whether he's on the phone with Strong Bad or not. It might be harder to find him if Bubs had a lot of customers, but according to him, Strong Bad is the only one. Also, Homestar has a tendency to piece together words that are similar to the ones he wants. --Da M-izz-uTizzalk 19:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
My money's on "or." I don't hear an "F" sound, plus it's just like Homestar to come up with a ridiculous non-sequitur sentence like that. — Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 07:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
meh meh meh meh meh meh meh translation: I hear "or" Mr.Cheaterson
I heard "for" as well. It could have been "or" for non-sensical humour as The Mu|Da M-izz-u suggests, but it could also be "for identity theft" for the humour in the fact that he's asking for his account number so he can use it to steal his identity. Just my two cents.

[edit] Pasty white whatsit?

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --AshyRaccoon 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
meh meh meh meh translation: for cheats sake he's saying "bousem" in a strang way

[edit] Hilarity Ensues

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.

But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - Joshua 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on Sound Effects, though. — It's dot com 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"


Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

[edit] Hampster [sic] Dance?

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, The Hampster Dance. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - Totoro 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on Strong Bad's Website Thunderbird 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. Del Taco? 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

STUFF'd. Like I said, I'm not positive on this one, but it's worth a discussion. - Totoro 19:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not so Magical

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

[edit] Is this worth mentioning?

This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--Jnelson09 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. Thunderbird 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
It is also patently false. Thunderbird 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, 12:00 doesn't have any letters, just numbers. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Aw, crackles. I forgot about car. Totally my bad.--Jnelson09 01:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wired Pom Pom?

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -Unknownwarrior33 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
He doesn't? —AbdiViklas 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I said "Pom Pilot", not "Pom Pom". I'm saying that his PDA doesn't look like the kind of PDA that functions as a phone. -Unknownwarrior33 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call!

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link: http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

Customer: "Hello, is this Tech Support?"
Tech Support: "Yes, it is. How may I help you?"
Customer: "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?"
Tech Support: "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?"
Customer: "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer."
Tech Support: "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?"
Customer: "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it."
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive. Tommygun141 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. Tommygun141 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
that one is true, just the ending is false and incomplete. csours 05:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. Tommygun141 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of STUFF. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

  • Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"

...or...

  • Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"

...or...

  • Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- Da M-izz-uTizzalk 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See Talk:technology#Whos that stupid? for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —AbdiViklas 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Of course, the fact could still be there, stating that the line references a common urban myth. 64.231.120.38 21:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
As Kiefer said, it is a legend. Note that it does not matter whether or not it ever actually happened to be classified as a legend. — It's dot com 01:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Anybody else notice on that page that the author's nickname has a 'd in it? ---COLA 07:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The incredible vanishing trivia

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.

Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -Unknownwarrior33
This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.
Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say is that if the wiki community can't agree, it should be STUFF'd. That seems to be the case, because the fact is back up. -Unknownwarrior33 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Datum?

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- Paulsint

I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.
It wasn't just old-style movies; people really did (and do) put an -um (or -im) suffix on the end of words. Only verbs, though. It's a transitivity marker (iirc) that shows up in certain pidgin and creole Englishes. (I believe you'll find it, for example, in Tok Pisin) I don't know, myself, if actual American Indians ever actually talked like this, but it's a common feature of pidgin Englishes, and thus something that writers of Westerns could have immediately seized upon when trying to write "native talk". 67.171.71.112 05:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I was pretty sure that it was a pun on Data, since Datum is an alternate plural form of data. 69.19.14.21 16:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, data's the plural and datum is the singular. Though you almost never hear it used appropriately ("These data are shocking!"). And yes, when Bubs says it first it's kind of a joke about that. We're talking about the tone of voice Strong Bad uses. And yeah, 67.171.etc, I've heard that in Jamaica they tack "-dem" onto singular nouns to make them plural. —AbdiViklas 17:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] speech impediment

Under Remarks:

When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.Del Taco? 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--DumDe 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
But Homestar doesn't say "R"s.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 07:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Probably "inno-net" or something like that. I know I was very surprised when I heard that R.--T3H_CH3K7_888 11:30, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Zzzzz...

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --GLO3

I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --DorianGray

[edit] Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo

I added File:homestar pshh in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - Volbeat A The Cheat 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in Cool Things when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

We have precedent in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) --phlip TC 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh ok I see now.
Eww, you love me. =P - Volbeat A The Cheat 08:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motion blur

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in Sbemail 150?!?? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... --phlip TC 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

eh... in my opinion its too minor and not really an interesting fact. we dont have to mention eeeeevery style similarity between cartoons.Del Taco? 21:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hold music vs. car alarm

Possible Homestar Runner running gag - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - Totoro 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

He also does the theme from Knight Rider Night Court starring Richard Moll when you spin his buzzer (in car). And maybe when he did the "Back In Black" music intro in that one Answering Machine... --DorianGray
COURT. Night COURT. Tom H
Right, right... That. --DorianGray
"Back in Black" is the one I was thinking of. All-time classic. Anyway, is this enough for a running gag page? I'll create it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. - Totoro 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
What would you call the page, out of curiosity? --DorianGray
Homestar Singing? — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
That would be my suggestion too. It's not perfect, but it's more concise than anything else I came up with. Homestar Sound Effects would be a decent alternative. - Totoro 00:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
That was already suggested and declined. We have a full page for all the songs on Songs. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 08:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
That barely looks declined to me. I'd say go for it. It's a more intelligent page than something like Strong Mad Smiling. >.> - Joshua 13:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Homestar Singing is up. I suggest we take further discussion over to its talk page. - Totoro 15:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rodent hand gesture

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?

Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - Totoro 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Of course, it does say "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" in those large yellow letters. 64.231.120.38 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] missing arm

I'm not sure if this should go in "goofs" or "remarks", and I'm not sure of the best way to word it, so I'll just describe my observation and let someone else put it in the article (if it's deemed worthwhile). When watching the flash file, I noticed that right after Strong Mad declares himself to be a website, when we see Bubs and Strong Bad laughing, Bubs' right arm (the one out of frame) is missing. - Ugliness Man 22:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

It's neither a goof or a remark, it's a Flash artifact, and therefore non-notable. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 22:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, this happens nigh-universally in H*R toons when a major body part of a character is totally offscreen for an entire scene. Arms vanish, legs vanish, objects vanish, and sometimes a limb will even get duplicated. Unless something that has no excuse to be there is seen (like the right-hand Homestar's mustache in Senorial Day or some of the items that never appear on-camera in garage sale), it shouldn't be in. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 23:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
And in some of these instances, not only are they noteworthy they are actually classed as Easter eggs. The Mustached Homestar mentioned above, and the signing of the ancient fence paintings from myths & legends being two examples. Thunderbird 00:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of out-of-frame stuff, I noticed that at the end, there's a small square off to the left that gets highlighted before the easter-egg "O", but it doesn't appear to do anything. Again, this is likely not something to be included in the article, but does anyone know what it is, or perhaps what it was supposed to be? - Ugliness Man 08:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Bubs

Just throwing it out there: "old man Bubs" related to "old mista Bubs"? Vol Chem, 1st Tile of Ical

Bubs is often described as old, isn't he? --DorianGray


[edit] Sweet Cuppin' Rodents?

Is it just me, or does the song the song that plays when the breakdancing mouse appears sound a bit like the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes theme? -GG Crono 01:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

It's just you. The sweet cuppin cakes theme, to me, seems to be just some random notes on a guitar. This theme is something rhythmically dissimilar that's also in a major scale (with the odd dominant 7th thrown in). I see no similarity. --Paulsint 15:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible (obscure) reference during SB's dusk walk

I don't know if it really is a reference, but the scene where Strong Bad is silhouetted walking against a dusk background reminds me a lot of the opening sequence to the show G4tv.com. The show was cancelled back in December but the Brothers Chaps have appeared on G4 several times and the reference would be appropriate considering the internet theme of the email. --68.239.3.215 02:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Probably not. Silhouetting is pretty commonplace in cartoons and media in general. Though I'm surprised nobody tried to link this to Old Intro 2 yet. Seems that always happens whenever a silhouette scene is shown... -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 03:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
... and... it turns out someone did. *sigh* -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 04:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


Also in the transcript, it talks about Strong Bad being out of breath from marching...I don't think that it is he is out of breath as much as it is he is just angry...or at least that's what I thought from watching it...- ItalianBallerina 03:36 PM, 5 June 2006

[edit] Bubs' other rip offing ways

Bubs said that he had 99 ways to rip people off, right? Like in the Broken Compy menu. He possibly ripped off Homestar to buying the Broken Compy. Plus let's not forget Bubs selling the old and borken Tandy to The KOT that wasn't working. So all I'm saying is, what other things that Bubs ripped off from other people?

Ripping people off and being a con artist is pretty much how Bubs makes his living, really. --DorianGray
To anony: See Bubs' Concession Stand. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 03:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GIF Sizes

From Remarks: The animated gif Strong Bad was downloading was a mere 10 seconds long. An animated GIF that long takes up less than 100 KB. Therefore, his download speed is about 0.0003 Kilobytes/second. In this case that estimate may very well be true, but the size of any GIF animation depends on frame count, frame size, and optimization. A ten-second GIF could easily be much larger than 100K if it contained many or large frames. This one does not appear to contain either until the end, when the smooth text implies a greater resolution than had the pixelated rodent. That can probably be ignored, though, since I don't think the Lappy 486's resolution can support text that smooth. It's like that Homestar Hair JPEG Strong Bad pulled up once. Any way, assuming the image is under 100K, there still needs to be some indication that its small size and slow frame rate make it so. -AndromedaRoach 01:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The GIF (used here as the background image) is actually about 150K. So there you go. -AndromedaRoach 01:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, that looks like it has a few extra frames at the end to make it loop, which the GIF in the toon lacks. - Joshua 03:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rings

Is it worth mentioning as a goof that the 'cute breakdancing rodent' is only wearing those gold rings when he makes the peace sign-like gesture? ItalianBallerina

[edit] Lappy Back

Is this the first time we see strongbad working at the lappy from this angle when he is talking to homestar on the phone? I have never seen it like this before -Guest

Dear Guest... Sort of. From the remarks section: "While the first time we saw the back of the Lappy was in the email part-time job, this is the first time we have seen a clear view of the various ports and inputs on the back of the computer." — It's dot com 04:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
The animation is also better whith the whole flip around thing and such-Guest
I agree. The Brothers Chaps have honed their animation skills into a very impressive craft. — It's dot com 04:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering if the RJ-45 ethernet jack is too modern for a 486 laptop, or if it would more likely use coaxial cable instead. Actually, he'd be more likely to use an RJ-11 phone jack with a modem since he's working with 1200 baud, but we never see a modem, and he can still make phone calls while connected, so we can assume it's an invisible network cable that does all the work. The other port might be parallel or pcmcia, and the round port looks like a modern mini-DIN serial connector more than the larger 5 pin DIN connectors that were more common.
No, RJ-45 ports have been around for far longer than the 486. However, I think it's unlikely that he'd be using one. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GIF Music

Is it just me or did the gif music sound the same as homestar's hold music? — Spidy92

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Sub Standard Fact

The Easter egg showing Homestar's weight in CDs uses the first image on Sub Central's history page as a background. At the time this email was released, it was one of the first results for a Google image search for "empty room".

Posted on: 23:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 01:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was accepted (patently true), 10–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] One of the 99 Ways I STUFF This Fact!

When Bubs says, "That's not one of the 99 ways I rip you off!", he could possibly be referencing to the Jay-Z song 99 Problems, in which Jay-Z says in the chorus "I got 99 problems but a [expletive] aint one."

Posted on: 05:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 15:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 19–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] BCS Time Warner

"The merger" is a reference to America Online's merger with Time Warner, generally regarded as a bad business move.

Posted on: 02:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 15:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 18–3. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] Strong-Madlinking

Strong Mad "sucking" all of Bubs' ISP's bandwidth could be a reference to the practice of hotlinking.

Posted on: 04:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 22:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 16–1. A proposed revision was also overwhelmingly declined, 11–2. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] There's a first time for everything

This is the first time Bubs has been seen openly laughing. He previously suppressed his laughter at "Da Bee" in Pumpkin Carve-nival, snickered once or twice in 3 Times Halloween Funjob, and merely chuckled in labor day.

Posted on: 16:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 20:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined, 20–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] Hampster Dancing?

The "breakdancing rodent" Strong Bad tries to download is based off Hampster Dance a popular website from a few years ago which featured a number of animated hamsters dancing. This site spawned a number of imitators.

Posted on: 19:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 20:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 20–2. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] Undisconnected

Strong Bad also checked an email in part-time job without any cables. It is possible that both these times, he downloaded the emails beforehand.

Posted on: 16:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 18:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was automatically declined (patently false), 2–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/isp.

[edit] Is this a Matrix reference?

When Strong Bad calls tech support:

  • We see an old-style telephone
  • We hear the ringing bell of an old-style telephone (even though SB is calling out on his phone, and HR wears a headset that would not ring like that)
  • SB picks up the telephone
  • The camera does a blur-pan around the scene

Is my imagination overactive, or is this a deliberate reference to the Matrix movies?

I really, really doubt it. That's way, so way out to lunch. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is your Internet Perry running?

Even though Strong Bad's internet is running slowly, he is able to bring up the email very quickly.

This keeps getting added to the article as a remark. I don't have a problem with it, but I think it deserves some scrutiny. Let's suppose that Strong Bad's connection is so low-tech that each symbol can only carry 1 bit of data, meaning his 12 baud is 12 bits per second. Let's further suppose that the email was about 900 bytes (counting headers). With those numbers, it should have taken him 10 minutes to download the message. For dramatic purposes, this kind of realism would be impractical, and it would give away the joke too early. On a less tangible note: I don't believe certain parts of the Homestar Runner universe exist until Strong Bad (via TBC) types them. That is, before Strong Bad pulled the email onto his screen, there was no Datum Center, no Strong Mad literally stealing Strong Bad's bandwidth, no breakdancing rodent. After Strong Bad types things (and if they fit with established canon), they retroactively exist if necessary. — It's dot com 22:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Let's also entertain the possibility that the emails were already downloaded, so during the toon he's accessing them not from his email server but from his hard drive. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Compy Download

Is the computer in the download bar a Compy 386?

I don't think there's any way to tell what type of computer it is. It's a tiny pixilated image and doesn't have any distinguishing features. -- Tom 13:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Homestar CD Background Image

Just in case nobody agrees that the image found here is the background, here's proof. TBC just flipped the image and brightened it for use with the easter egg. see!--Image:Stinkwing.gif »Bleed0range« 21:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow. Nice find. How did you come upon this page? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 21:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Not me, I just noticed somebody mentioned it and it got reverted then reverted back. So I just put this up for 100% clarification.--Image:Stinkwing.gif »Bleed0range« 21:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks like the image is one of the first results for a Google image search for "empty room". -- Tom 21:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Nice work, BleedOrange!!! I'm the one who first spotted that that image was the background and added it to the page. The only reason I noticed was because my website uses the same image! I too simply found it by googling "empty room." (Independently, I might add. My website is older than this email.) High fives all around! --Grant

[edit] STUFF Closed so soon?

I think the STUFF item about the empty room and the Homestar CD thing closed a little too soon. Shall we reopen? There were only a total of 11 votes. --TheYellowDart(t/c) 02:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It was pretty short; but still: 10 to 1 in favor in a very short time, and the one opposer agreed to have it closed. It hardly seems worth the trouble to reopen it when it seems to me there isn't a snowball's chance in Hades it would be declined. Heimstern Läufer 02:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Understandable! --TheYellowDart(t/c) 02:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Right — I almost never close facts that quickly, but in this case the item was undisputably true, and the only opposer and submitter requested that it be closed. No reason to keep it open. It's good that you brought it up, though — in almost every other case, the facts should stay open for longer. Trey56 03:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)



[edit] Picture please

could someone post a savable file of the rat dancing please

[edit] Conflict: Who's kitchen is this?

The following block was taken from hrwiki article about email #152 “isp”

“Remarks... it is unlikely that the computer has a wireless connection (even though he was able to answer e-mails from under Homestar's kitchen table in part-time job)”

The next block was taken from hrwiki article about email #121 “part-time job”

{Cut to the lower area of Marzipan's kitchen. Strong Bad has apparently been checking this e-mail under Marzipan's kitchen table. Homestar walks in, and is holding a tennis ball.}

My thoughts:

Case #1: Homestar's Kitchen

It can be argued that it is not Marzipan's kitchen because there is no sink or cookie jar on the counter behind the table. All known shots of her kitchen have those items. The table is correct with the counters for the mystery kitchen in the Schenectady Crispies commercial seen in email #83 “labor day” (shown in easter egg). If it were Homestar's kitchen, it would explain a lot about why Strong Bad had to get out without being noticed in “part time job.” It would also explain why in the commercial he said “Hope I don't get caught”.

Case #2: Marzipan's Kitchen

It is plausible to say that this is Marzipan's kitchen viewed from the other side of the table, an angle that we never have seen before. If we assert that the mystery kitchens in “labor day” and “part-time job” are the same kitchen, this would indicate that marzipan has identical windows, cupboards, counters, and shelves on both sides of her kitchen (if not for the sink and cookie jar, the room would be symmetrical.) However, this makes us wonder where the microwave (seen in email #93 “army”) is normally kept, since it is not usually next to the cookie jar. Saying it is Marzipan's kitchen also explains why Strong Bad does not want to be caught in it.

Case #3: Strong Bad's Kitchen

We rarely see Strong Bad at Homestar's or Marzipan's house. I doubt that he has much motivation to go there. With it being so rare for Strong Bad to show up in their houses, it seems odd that we should catch him in their kitchens so much and never in his own kitchen. On the other hand, Homestar is at Strong Bad's so often he thinks he lives there (see “flashback”), and there are instances where Homestar cooks at Strong Bad's house (see “jibblies 2” and “secret identity”). In fact, there are several instances where Strong Bad himself cooks, indicating that he must use his own kitchen frequently (see “big white face”, “old comics”, “bug in mouth disease”, and “secret recipes”). If it is unlikely for Strong Bad to be in anyone else's kitchen, it would make sense for him to be in his own during these scenes.

The closest TBC gave to an actual answer says it's Marzipan's kitchen (from the Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon DVD commentary:
MATT: They've taken Trivia Time from off of Marzipan and/or Homestar's kitchen shelf.
MIKE: I don't think we've really established whose kitchen that is.
MATT: I think people assume it's Marzipan's.
MIKE: Yeah, I think it's Marzipan's.
Bad Bad Guy 01:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Uhhhhhhhh..... yeah. It is Marzipan's kitchen. Homestar-Winner (talk) 01:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm gonna go fix that remark. Bad Bad Guy 01:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Beautiful! Works for me.

[edit] ctrl+alt+del

I found a ctrl+alt+del comic with a robot sucking up someone's bandwidth. Do you think it's a reference?

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20031121
Unbalanced 02:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

If somebody with more power than me does decide to count this, it would go in one of those sightings articles. Bad Bad Guy 02:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, this comic (as stated by the url) was made in 2003. Unbalanced 02:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I think it's a coincidence. It'd be easy to come up with the play on "sucking bandwidth" independently, and there's no other direct connection. Just my opinion, though. Trey56 02:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
comic=2003;
sbemail=2006;
sighting=(comic<sbemail?false:true);
For those who don't read C++, this says that a sighting from before the email was made is impossible. — Defender1031*Talk 04:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
But I was wondering if the sbemail was referencing the comic. Unbalanced 12:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Highly unlikely... they're just similar jokes is all. And you're the one who said sighting first, not me. — Defender1031*Talk 12:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Unbalanced said reference. It was Bad Bad Guy who said sighting. (I too think it's coincidence, myself being a follower of CAD)-DAGRON 17:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Math fact

It may be a coincidence, but 38 * 4 = 152. Email #38 is helium, while email #152 is isp. However, I don't know if the fact that email #4 is homestar hair would have anything to do with it (just an opinion).

I don't understand what you think the connection is. you can play math games with any email, i.e. (stand-up + homsar) * making out / homestar hair = super powers — Defender1031*Talk 15:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
He's saying the high voice is a connecton (but I don't think it is one). — It's dot com 04:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fast Forward

Found one: When Bubs says Strong Bad is his lone internet user, in email thunder Homestar has the internet (for his email). Kid2255 Talk 23:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps Homestar uses some other isp? — Defender1031*Talk 23:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Who else in the Homestar Runner universe sells anything regularly (such as internet service)?--T3H_CH3K7_888 18:58, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Could be just another inconsistency from the TBC. Sbmaniac 19:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Okay okay okay

Is it just me (it probably is) or does Strong Bad's voice turn into his mexican voice when he says "Datum sounds good." It is sharper when he says "Datum" and "Good" just sounds old. It kinda sounds like around about the time of like, the start of compy era, where bubs was old and Homestar was more american.

Then again, this may just be me, I don't wanna add it to the page just to get people shouting saying I'm wrong.

Thanks everyperzonz!

-Buh...buh-zuuh..

OH AND ANOTHER THING! When Homestar is doing the HOLD MUSIC! He does that "chik" sound and his mouth goes to the back. But just before he goes "HOLD..MUSIC!" in a high voice, the sound "chik" is recorded, but his mouth doesn't move.

Now this DEFINATLY not just me.

-Bubz again

That, was my old account, where I wasn't very grammar savvy..anyway, when he says "Datum sounds good" he does sound like he's got his mexican accent, although this could just be on purpose. --Still Homsar 21:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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