HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30

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[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 21 (May 19-25)

A Food or Drinks Running Gag. How about General Tso's Chicken, Fluffy Puff, SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar, or Homestar Jr.? User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 23:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Not exactly running gags, but meh. Fluffy Puffs have been around forever and are clearly important in the H*R universe. I think they'd make a good feature (though the article might need a little improvement). Heimstern Läufer 23:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Besides, we already did a foods week not that long ago... Fluffy Puff Marshmallows would be a worthy possibility for a week long feature (and it was suggested as a possibility in the earlier discussion). wbwolf (t | ed) 00:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
How about a clothing running gag? Like Bowler Hats? MHarrington 01:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, we already have three people interested in featuring Fluffy Puffs. Can you contribute a bit to the discussion by explaining why you think we ought to look at Bowler Hats instead? Remember, this is a discussion, not a vote, and just throwing out ideas without responding to previous suggestions doesn't really help. Heimstern Läufer 04:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought the Fluffy Puff ones was on a different week. Sorry, my mistake. Sure, we can do Fluffy Puff. MHarrington 05:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 22 (May 26-Jun 1)

Heading into summer - how about a week of featuring emails which introduced important songs and musical motifs? I'm thinking guitar, techno, death metal, different town, concert, candy product, and end it with rock opera. Order might be better switched up a little. Believe it or not, none have been featured, and all are of importance to TBC's musical ouevre. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm really tired of these suggestions for running daily FAs. Most of the time, the suggested daily articles usually important enough to be featured for the entire week or too short to be noted at all. The emails noted here are a good example of this problem. guitar or techno, for example, are very important emails, and should get a week by themselves. In fact, any of the suggested emails should get an entire week. Personally, I'd start with techno for this week, and leave the rest for a later time. wbwolf (t | ed) 03:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, your position is definitely noted. I don't think we do dailies all that often. When we do, it's due to a strong theme and a series of strong contributors to that theme. I would agree that the two emails you cite, along with several of the others, could get a week to themselves. The fact that they all reside on the nomination list and have never been featured is conspicuous. And this also delves into why we feature articles in the first place - is it to give every article its due, or to give the visitor their due? I think a week of dailies compels the visitor to return, to maybe get active. I think they are good things for the wiki. I can see how others might argue to the contrary, and that's cool. I kinda think this idea is a strong one. Just my opinion. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
How about Summer Short Shorts? MHarrington 03:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that would be more appropriate to feature when it's actually summer rather than the end of May. Heimstern Läufer 04:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
How about Sweet Cuppin' Cakes? Or maybe a character in it like Eh! Steve! (my idea was previously rejected above.) Homestar-Winner (talk) 12:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'm game for that. MHarrington 16:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, Sweet Cuppin' Cakes is an excellent idea I will support. But please remember my themed musical week when enough time has passed for such a daily week to be appropriate, if you would. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I certainly will. Let's let it go for a while and then see. MHarrington 04:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Sweet Cuppin' Cakes is a fine idea; let's go with that. Trey56 18:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 23 (Jun 2-8)

How about doing a short? Like an OLD short, such as... Strong Bad Sings? MHarrington 06:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd go with that. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 21:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Do you think there's enough content there for a decent writeup? It's a pretty short toon with no real plot, so I'm not so sure. Maybe someone would like to take a stab at it in their userspace and see if we can get a writeup? Heimstern Läufer 23:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Well then, how about Kick the Can? MHarrington 02:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
You know, let's just get Sweet Cuppin Cakes out of the way, huh? MHarrington 05:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I thought we were doing that in week 22...? Heimstern Läufer 05:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, what of the music-themed email week that Sam the Man suggested? Of course, I'm fine with doing that one this week if we're going to be doing Sweet Cuppin Cakes the week before. MHarrington 21:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I thought it was quite clear that discussion had moved away from the musical email week for week 22 in toward Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Heimstern Läufer 21:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I didn't suggest the music week, that was Qermaq. Kick The Can could work. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 23:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, I thought it was Sam the Man. MHarrington 06:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Whichever week gets Strong bads cool game should feature that article. It'll probably be this week so i propose it! Physicsguymonsterman 19:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

As stated elsewhere SBCG4AP is far too new to be a featured article yet. I doubt it will even be considered for featuring until all 5 1st season episodes are out, at least. Earliest practically would be 2009. Though I will admit that the article is shaping up to be fine FA material... just not right now. wbwolf (t | ed) 04:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, now that Sweet Cuppin Cakes has been selected for Week 22, let's try to do Qermaq's proposal for the music-themed email week, huh? We haven't done a seven-day article week for a while. I don't mind waiting a while for doing Kick the Can. MHarrington 16:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I am strongly opposed to doing any more seven day FAs. I will support doing Kick The Can for this week, or maybe one of the music emails, like techno or guitar. wbwolf (t | ed) 22:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Wbwolf, we have a rather long tradition of doing daily FAs on occasion, and I don't think that's going to stop because you oppose it. I'd be in support of a music week eventually, though I would guess not this week. Heimstern Läufer 23:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't expect to stop, but I do wish that the proposal for dailies wasn't seeming once a month (or less). That is mainly why I oppose doing it, so hopefully they become less frequently proposed and better conceived. My other concern in this case of music week is that some of the emails that were proposed to be part of it really do deserve to have a full week (techno especially off the top of my head), rather than just one day. Show me a week list of mid-level music related emails, and I will support it. wbwolf (t | ed) 23:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Here's the list, though it doesn't have to be in any particular order: guitar, techno, death metal, different town, concert, candy product and rock opera. We could probably replace techno with marzipan, though, if we had to. MHarrington 18:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and made the writeup for Kick the Can, the article that seemed to have the highest level of support.

I think the idea of the music week should be pursued eventually (though I agree with Wbwolf that techno probably deserves its own week, and possibly concert as well). caper is another musical email that might work in a set of dailies.

If I may make a little comment about this week's discussion: I think it illustrates something we need to do better: discussing featured articles and paying attention to what others suggest rather than just throwing out ideas. Because we sometimes just sort of threw out ideas, the discussion became really convoluted, and it was hard for me to determine consensus. Just my two cents. Heimstern Läufer 21:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 24 (Jun 9-15)

I'm up for an important place. There always been The Field, The Stick and Homestar Runner's House? However, The Field would drastically need an intro cleanup, and The Stick would need an intro cleanup too. Homestar Runner's House is the best choice, so I'd go with that. That's always been around since like day 5. Unless anybody else can think of something else, I'm for Homestar's House. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 21:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Of the three, I'd say we do Homestar Runner's House. Of course, The Stick and especially The Field have been around forever, but as you said they need to be updated, so the armless white guy's abode would be the best bet. MHarrington 01:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Maintenance coming in: We're going to far out in terms of dates right now. We're now talking about eleven weeks ahead of today; we really should keep the discussions a little closer than this. Go ahead and discuss this one, but could we please not add any more weeks for a bit? Thanks. Resume discussion. Heimstern Läufer 23:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and if I might make a bit of a plug: I'm working on a subpage about guidelines for FAS: User:Heimstern Läufer/FAS. I welcome comments and improvements, especially from any regulars in the discussion here. Heimstern Läufer 19:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Sure, Homestar's House is cool. Heimstern Läufer 21:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 25 (Jun 16-22)

A Folky Tale? Full-length toon with quite a bit of content, not to mention funny. Heimstern Läufer 04:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I hate to burst your bubble, but if we're going to be featuring A Jorb Well Done for Week 20, then maybe we should do something else, so that we don't have to worry about exhausting everything instantly. I think that's what you said about "Homestar and Marzipan's Relationship". I would like to feature this, though; just not so soon. MHarrington 05:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, the comparison is not exactly valid. There are many toon articles that can be featured, but few relationship articles. Heimstern Läufer 05:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, alright, I guess we can do it, then. MHarrington 06:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Wait, I got a better idea. Why don't we just do Saddy Dumpington, the character? MHarrington 21:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I like that idea. Not many Strong Sad variants get featured, and this article has an extensive write up (more than enough to act as a teaser and justify the More) wbwolf (t | ed) 04:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
And besides, when I said something about exhausting the toons, I meant big toons. MHarrington 06:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Sure. Just keep in mind Folky Tale for a future FA. Heimstern Läufer 21:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Saddy Dumpington is a fine choice. His character is equal in significance to A Folky Tale (a writeup about either one would cover pretty much the same content), so if people like the idea of featuring the character better, I say let's go for it. And we can even put a watch link for A Folky Tale at the end of the writeup! Trey56 06:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 26 (Jun 23-29)

How about Summer Short Shorts? It would have to be summer by now. MHarrington 01:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a fine idea to me. (Although interestingly enough, my local school district only gets out of school this very week, so summer will only be beginning here!) Heimstern Läufer 21:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
It kind of fits since summer starts on June 21'st. sounds like a good idea! Slipknot6477 02:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 27 (Jun 30-Jul 6)

Since we already featured Happy Fireworks, how about Cardboard Marzipan? Bad Bad Guy 21:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess we could do that. Another thing we should try is Fireworks. Of course, that one would need to be updated drastically. MHarrington 21:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, which is too bad, since Fireworks is definitely better connected to July 4th. But then, there's no obligation to do a July 4th article, so there's no harm in doing a one with a loose connection like Carboard Marzi. Heimstern Läufer 03:33, 24 April 2008
On the other hand, if we're going to do Saddy two weeks prior, this could be a bit of an overdose of character variations. Heimstern Läufer 21:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
As an alternative, how about something tangentially related? Like how Homestar Runner wants to dress up as Uncle Sam in Strong Bad Is A Bad Guy? (I know, I know, it's a stretch....) wbwolf (t | ed) 05:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
It's a stretch, but I see no reason not to do it anyway. Heimstern Läufer 05:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Any more thoughts so we can gather consensus? Heimstern Läufer 02:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Strong Bad is a Bad Guy would be fine. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with Fireworks being an appropriate Featured Article, it is just a rather short list of the use of fireworks in H*R. The other two are more appropriate, and since the FA doesn't have to be 4th of July related, I wouldn't mind seeing Strong Bad Is A Bad Guy myself. Of course, nothing wrong with being a little festive either. :) --Stux 02:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I agree with Heimstern on the Saddy dilemma, so I think SBIABG is our best bet. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 02:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 28 (Jul 7-13)

Have we featured The Announcer yet? If so, how about Homestarloween Party? --Technochocolate 03:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Or specially marked.

Getting pretty far out in advance again; let's not go any further than this week for a bit, OK?
We haven't featured The Announcer yet. That article could possibly use some expansion before featuring, but it's a possibility. Homestarloween Party's been featured (and we usually save Halloween toons to be featured at Halloween, anyway). Heimstern Läufer 03:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, let's slow down a little bit, huh? MHarrington 08:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ten weeks is enough. I think we have 12 now. Let's hold it to 10 - guideline suggestion? Question mark? The Announcer works for me. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 01:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
First, The Announcer sounds reasonable to me, but secondly, let's slow way down a little bit, huh? We keep getting too far out ahead. Let's add more once we get below five or six weeks ahead (by then, the first 26 weeks will likely be in the archives and it'll be time for weeks 27 through 52). In the meantime, if it's any comfort to you, we can keep discussing ideas for the weeks that are already on here. MHarrington 19:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, in regards to the Halloween toons, can I be the first to make a suggestion there, please? MHarrington 18:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
If someone could expand Irregular Loading Screens, then it would be a great choice. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 19:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
How about the Gremlin? -PeterImage:Petersig.png
Hmm, I never thought of that one... MHarrington 02:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Gremlin: maybe. Dunno if it's a popular enough article. Irregular Loading Screens: no. That article does not seem interesting enough to be a Featured Article even if it was expanded a bit. Homestar-Winner (talk) 02:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, me again. This is another illustration of the problem we're having here at FAS: throwing out ideas without discussing. The conversation was going along pretty well, with support gradually emerging for The Announcer, when a user comes in with a suggestion to feature The Gremlin without saying anything about the previous discussion or explaining why to feature the latter and not the former. Why is this a problem? It leaves the discussion fragmented and makes it hard to determine consensus. If I came along now to close this, I would have a very heard time telling where consensus lies. For this reason, when contributing here, always respond to what previous users have said instead of just throwing out your own ideas. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer 04:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

We need more discussion here. There is no clear consensus about what to feature. Heimstern Läufer 15:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The biggest problem that I see is all of the suggested articles for this week are...er, weak. The Announcer, The Gremlin, and Irregular Loading Screens all are on the short side when it comes to text. I was looking further down, and unfortunately, moving comic up wouldn't solve the dilemma for that week and I'm hesitant to suggest Teen Girl Squad Issue 11 here instead. How about Teen Girl Squad Issue 3 then, which is also summer themed? Then the later discussion can be reset. wbwolf (t | ed) 16:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm cool with that. Heimstern Läufer 17:04, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way, everybody, I'm going to be out of town this weekend, so I'm gonna need someone else to step up and do the writeup of whatever we choose. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer 06:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 29 (Jul 14-20)

One of the Thy Dungeonman games. Empaire 12:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

How about an actual person? Say, Missy Palmer or Ryan Sterritt? MHarrington 06:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
As important as Missy is to H*R, her write up is a bit thin. Ryan's page is actually of decent length. May I also suggest Y-O-U as a possibility (their contributions have been key a number of TBC's musical projects). wbwolf (t | ed) 06:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
No. It is one of the Dungeonman games or else. Since we have already featured the Dungeonman himself and ye flask, it makes sense to feature one of the Dungeonman games. Empaire 10:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Umm, no, it's not "one of the Dungeonman games or else". You don't get to make decisions like that. I'd say we ought to feature Ryan, personally. Heimstern Läufer 21:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I like the idea of featuring Ryan Sterritt too. And we should expand Missy's article sometime; she should be featured at some point. Trey56 21:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 30 (Jul 21-27)

Since it has been talked quite a bit, why don't we feature techno for this week? wbwolf (t | ed) 05:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm down. Oh, wait, I mean, the system is down. Heimstern Läufer 21:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)