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[edit] Interwiki-style updates and maintenance
As of July 2018 there are two new subdomains of homestarrunner.com: new.homestarrunner.com and trogdorboardgame.homestarrunner.com. It would be good to have interwiki links ([[new:|]], [[trogdorboardgame:|]]) for both for ease of linkage. Lira (talk) 06:56, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
- I agree! (Though I s'pose that's kind of obvious, since there's not much reason to disagree. So, by "I agree", I mean "do sum bow dis".)
Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:20, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hey! While we're at it, maybe we could add link prefixes for some other sites that have become relevant recently:
[[teespring:|]]Strong Bad's Specialty Shoppe (which we also badly need a page for but that's another issue)[[fangamer:|]]Fangamer store[[songwhip:|]]used to link to albums on the streamins[[kickstarter:|]]stuff related to the Trogdor!! The Board Game campaign[[twitch:|]]streams linked to by Strong Bad a couple times; we wouldn't have to but we might as well
- Lira (talk) 08:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
- These links would be very useful and pretty and I think it would be really cool if we could do this. Lira (talk) 05:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I wonder if for some of these (like the less-often used ones or more transient ones) templates might be better solutions? For example: I'd imagine that new would eventually become the regular site and the regular site might become "old". This would also make it easier for regular users to react to changes. --Stux 08:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I can't think of any reasons templates would be preferrable, aside from the new site for the reason you gave (and even then, we can just change the links if we have to). Some of them would be less used, but if anything, I see that as more reason to use interwiki links rather than templates. After all, interwiki links are built into the wiki, while templates require their own pages. But yeah, I still support all of these. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:03, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I can't think of any reasons templates would be preferrable, aside from the new site for the reason you gave (and even then, we can just change the links if we have to). Some of them would be less used, but if anything, I see that as more reason to use interwiki links rather than templates. After all, interwiki links are built into the wiki, while templates require their own pages. But yeah, I still support all of these.
- I wonder if for some of these (like the less-often used ones or more transient ones) templates might be better solutions? For example: I'd imagine that new would eventually become the regular site and the regular site might become "old". This would also make it easier for regular users to react to changes. --Stux 08:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- These links would be very useful and pretty and I think it would be really cool if we could do this. Lira (talk) 05:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hey! While we're at it, maybe we could add link prefixes for some other sites that have become relevant recently:
Someone please fill in the table above. The thing I most need to know is whether the base for a given interwiki link should be a simple link to the domain (like Twitter) or something more complex that makes prettier shortcuts (like YouTube). Also I changed "new" to "newhr" because the former was too simple. If you'd like something different, please say so. — It's dot com 21:19, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Done. The bases for these are all pretty simple. And "newhr" works for me. Lira (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- If we want icons for any of these links, here are some: trogdorboardgame, teespring, fangamer, songwhip, kickstarter, twitch.
new dot homestarrunner dot com's current favicon is kind of ugly, so we may just want to reuse our "hr" icon for that one.Lira (talk) 22:47, 11 December 2020 (UTC)- Now that the site's been redesigned for 2021, we also need an
oldhrto point to the old website. Note that both oldhr and regular hr use HTTPS now. Also, I can't help but wonder if there's a less confusing name we could use for new.homestarrunner.com now that it's a) not new and b) very abandoned. Lira (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)- I still agree with all of these, but
oldhrespecially needs to be done as soon as possible. (Also, now that the redesign is up and all the URLs are pretty much set in stone, I see even less reason to use templates. As for thenewhrname, I don't think that's too confusing, since "new" is in the URL and it was planned to be the new website.) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- IMDB links are now broken. For some time now the us domain now leads to a help document, breaking all our links (and other site's links). See this section for an example. I've added imdb to the table above with a fix (it won't work for names probably but the original wasn't set up for that either). --Stux 04:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done. — It's dot com 01:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sweeet! Thank you very much! --Stux 08:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I still agree with all of these, but
- Now that the site's been redesigned for 2021, we also need an
- If we want icons for any of these links, here are some: trogdorboardgame, teespring, fangamer, songwhip, kickstarter, twitch.
- While looking at Help:Namespaces (didn't realize that was a thing) I noticed that the Videlectrix namespace (Videlectrix:index.html) should now point to the old HR domain (e.g. this location) as the current setup generates 404 errors. --Stux 08:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed. I also fixed the Podstar link. I completely disabled "HRStore" because it was pointing to a sketchy domain reseller. (It used to point to homestarrunnerstore.com [is that noted anywhere?]; it now just points to Store as a placeholder.) I tried to point it to the Internet Archive, but I got an error. I'm open to suggestion. If there's no suitable place to point it, then we'll need to update any links that still use it. — It's dot com 16:30, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks again Dot com! Now, linking to the internet archive can sometimes be tricky, but it's pretty flexible once you get things right. I would suggest trying the following format:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050626232117/http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/
- Using the Store Front Page News 2006 page as reference, the Kick The Cheat link would the point to [1]. It may not always work since there are likely pages that were never archived by the site but it should hopefully cover a decent amount of pages. The explicit date will force the archive to find the version of the page closest to that date (I forget if it's before or after).
- Also, it seems like a lot, if not all of the link favicons are gone? Not only "HR:" links but it seems also "Youtube:" links seem to be missing their icon. Was that deliberate or accidental? --Stux 07:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. I was trying to look up the archive for the
homestarrunnerstore.comdomain directly, and it didn't like that. I pointed it to a date at the beginning 2007 before the Kick The Cheat was sold out. It doesn't have images, but it seems to work for most of the text, and it's better than nothing. - As for the favicons, I think that issue cropped up when we switched from
httptohttpsin our links. I attempted a fix, but it's not showing up. I'm gonna give it a bit to see if it's just a matter of some cache refreshing before I try again. — It's dot com 17:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)- Sweet! Thanks for the fix to the store links. These links seem to be working well :). As for the favicon fix, I tried looking with my very meager CSS skills (and with the help of the DOM inspector) all I could tell was that it seemed like the monobook main.css page was involved (in the line
#bodyContent a[href ^="https://"]) but that too was included but ignored. In fact my testing showed that not even regular https links have the lock icon (
) displaying but non-https youtube links still work maybe because they don't have that possibly conflicting rule? --Stux 11:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- I figured it out. It's always the little things that trip you up. — It's dot com 15:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sweet! Thanks for the fix to the store links. These links seem to be working well :). As for the favicon fix, I tried looking with my very meager CSS skills (and with the help of the DOM inspector) all I could tell was that it seemed like the monobook main.css page was involved (in the line
- Ah, okay. I was trying to look up the archive for the
- Thanks again Dot com! Now, linking to the internet archive can sometimes be tricky, but it's pretty flexible once you get things right. I would suggest trying the following format:
- Fixed. I also fixed the Podstar link. I completely disabled "HRStore" because it was pointing to a sketchy domain reseller. (It used to point to homestarrunnerstore.com [is that noted anywhere?]; it now just points to Store as a placeholder.) I tried to point it to the Internet Archive, but I got an error. I'm open to suggestion. If there's no suitable place to point it, then we'll need to update any links that still use it. — It's dot com 16:30, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
At some point Telltale.com moved their forums from the subdirectory www.telltale.com/forums to the subdomain community.telltale.com — this breaks the interwiki-style link setup. Is there any way to adjust the link template to support this new link structure? -- Bleu Ninja 
21:30, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Late reply, sorry. Is this still needed? I've identified exactly four pages that appear to link to the Telltale forums:
- Most of those have already been fixed to just use an external link. The rest could be easily. Is there really a call for a dedicated shortcut for that? As for the main Telltale links, they're all 404'd now. Should we adjust the shortcut so that it points to the Internet Archive or something? (If so, what exactly do we need to change it to?) — It's dot com 01:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- That's a fair point, I think the external link is working well enough. As far as main links, apart from https://www.telltale.com/strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people/ the site's shifting in recent years makes me favor archive links generally. -- Bleu Ninja
19:06, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's a fair point, I think the external link is working well enough. As far as main links, apart from https://www.telltale.com/strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people/ the site's shifting in recent years makes me favor archive links generally. -- Bleu Ninja
[edit] Teespring?
It seems that Teespring has changed its url and previous links no longer work. See this section for more information. I'm not sure what the best solution would be: update the link to point to the new url or create a new one? --Stux 01:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
[edit] IMDB Names
Sorry to bring this topic up again, but in the @ronginald page the following name link was not working and had to be added manually: Joshua Pruett (see how it links to "title" instead of "name"). I thought the names issue had been automagically resolved? I vaguely remember suggesting a separate imdb names link which somehow became obsolete. But maybe I'm remembering it wrong. --Stux 18:43, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
UPDATE: I found the solution to this problem in Mediawiki's own interwiki list. It uses the following entry:
imdb|http://www.imdb.com/find?q=$1&tt=on|0|
I generated the following URL links:
- Flight of the Navigator — imdb:tt0091059 (takes me to this location)
- Sarah Jessica Parker — imdb:nm0000572 (takes me to this location)
And I was able to use those links to navigate to the correct pages! --Stux 17:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
