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[edit] legitimate screenshots

does anybody know how to get decent screenshots? when i press "print screen", all it does is copy an image to my clipboard, which i can't get off and into a saved file for the life of me.

and sorry i'm not signed in, i'm in the process of changing my changing my username -i know. can you believe it?/DJ Teh Cheat

Doozey of a new name, DJ. I prefer Irfanview as an image editor—low memory profile, doesn't try to be Photoshop when all you need is to convert or crop. Anyway,
  1. do your "print screen" thing—yes, it will put it on the clipboard;
  2. open your preferred editor;
  3. hit "paste." Voila! Then save, preferably as PNG. —AbdiViklas 05:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

grazie. or.. gratzie. or.. whatever. god bless photoshop. -DJ Teh Cheat

[edit] Under Construction

This is under extensive construction, but it should eventually be something similar to Wikipedia's community portal. If you have suggestions or ideas, feel free to help us improve it. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 15:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshot

Thinkin' we need a screenshot of The Stick here. →FireBird

I'ma try and get one. --acekirby13 20:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Done. -- Tom 20:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Aw! I wanted to do a whole new one, from the bird, but oh well. (I had it all ready to be uploaded too...) --acekirby13 20:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
could you email the pic to me acekirby13 (P.S. My email is at my user page)Joel|Talk Contributions

[edit] Thumbnail

The thumbnail we have of The Stick seems to be overlapping the background image of The Stick on the page. We should remove the thumbnail; the page looks better without it anyway (in my opinion, of course). --Gafaddict 18:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

If you're using a browser that can properly interpret CSS, the page is elongated to eliminate the overlap. Once the page has more information on it, this will no longer be a problem. I suppose we could remove the thumbnail in the meantime... — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 18:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Now you see me, and now you don't.

The Stick isn't always in the navigation panel. I'm not sure if it's for certain pages or just random. If it's for certain pages I'll give an example soon. Kvb 21:07, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Example: The Halloween House. (This one seems to not have The Stick in navigation.) Kvb 21:10, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict- My Reply)

It isn't? That's odd. It always is for me (unless I haven't noticed it). Maybe you should take this up with the mods. Tom and Pidgeot are good with Wiki glitches. --acekirby13 21:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Try a hard refresh. (Ctrl+F5). That usually fixes things up with me. →FireBird
By the way, when I go to The Halloween House, I can still see The Stick in the navigation. As suggested above, try a Hard Refresh. --acekirby13 21:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Nope, that hard refresh thing's not working. Kvb 21:16, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Try clearing your cache completely. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 21:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Okay, so far I'm not having the problem anymore. That must've been it. Kvb 21:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Committees

Is it alright if we start new committees? -- The Real Zajac 15:38, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

Talk it over with Joey first. →FireBird

[edit] Protection

Do you guys think HRWiki:The Stick is worth protecting?-^Gordon^

I do. Like the main page, this is rarely changed. This deserves protection much more than the main page, in my opinion. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:30, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with your last point, Rogue. The main page is the most visited page on the site. The Stick is not. The only reason why this page should possibly be protected is because it isn't changed much. It is one of the most trolled pages on the site because it is the first editable page linked on the sidebar. I don't think protecting it would help much, because trolls would simply move on to H* updates and Strong Bad Email. Besides, trolling at the stick is usually reverted pretty quickly. —BazookaJoe 01:37, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
So were the Main Page edits. Look at The Stick's history. Most them are trolling edits. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:43, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I didn't say I strongly oppose protecting this page. From the perspective of the wiki as a whole, it wouldn't do much. But I guess that's the wrong perspective. —BazookaJoe 01:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I strongly oppose protecting it. See my arguments here. — It's dot com 01:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree that no page is 100% perfect, but this page is one of the most trolled pages on the wiki. If this page is edited, chances are that it is a defacement. And please tell me why this page would need to be edited. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 02:01, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Users should be allowed to add stuff to the Stick if they come up with a useful tool or committee or something. Trolling isn't that hard to revert, and protection is against the wiki way. Like Joe said, the trolls would just move on to H* updates and Strong Bad Email (which can't be protected). Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 02:04, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I concede. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 02:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pledge Drive

The Pledge Drive is a good idea!--Stephen923

All right, then ask JoeyDay about it. Earlier, Joshua made the same change you did, and then reverted it just a few minutes later. I got the feeling he chatted with someone about it and was told to remove it. I could be wrong, but you should find out. — It's dot com 04:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] signatures

ok, i'm in the process of designing my signature. i'm almost done, but i've run into two snags. the first one is, the M is supposed to link to my user talk, but it doesn't link. the second is that the timestamp is all screwed up to where it comes up under the comment in a quote. if anyone knows what i'm doing wrong, please fix it at . and, the first problem is fixed at the actual sig page, but it doesn't work when i use it anywhere else. --DJTehCheat M-E-H! 23:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

ok, i fixed the first problem. nevermind on that one. now i just need to figure out how to fix the timestamp. --DJTehCheat M-E-H! 23:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New commitee

Mabye we could have a merging comittee so we can take all the small pages and make them into larger pages.-- Benol, aka Coach B 02:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

No. It's too easy for that to be a commitee. We're going merging overboard.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 02:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

or mabye an info gathering commitee.-- Benol, aka Coach B 03:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I dunno, that might be a good idea, but like Bkmlb said, it's so easy... I dunno. I guess I should shut up then. — talk Bubsty edits 03:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I personally don't see any need for a committee with such a limited charter. Would that committee go around merging articles until they're all on one big page? And there's nothing inherently wrong with small articles. Sometimes there's just not a lot to say about a subject, even though it's important. If the content or theme of several articles is very similar and the likelihood of cross-referencing is high and the articles themselves are quite small, then they might should be merged; otherwise, articles should remain on their own pages, no matter their size. — It's dot com 03:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sprucing Up

Hi, I never really liked the stick to look plain looking, so I figured I'd spruce it up a little, following the HRWiki:Introduction style. I made a preview on the Sandbox and applied it. I had also tried a version that would be part of the introduction but the title is too wide even for 1024x768 and I'm not sure it quite belongs there. If you guys don't like it feel free to revert. One thing is left to be done though. In order to eliminate ugly whitespace around the quick menu, I removed the border and couldn't make it transparent. I'll leave that one to the XHTML gurus. One thing I really wanted to do was to make the quick links div be its own template which would look nicer in the stick page (easier to understand) and also could be used by users in their user page if they so desire. The quick menu itself could probably be reorganized a little (group things and use horiz lines to divide these groups) in order to make things a little "quicker" --Stux 16:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Nice work, Stux! There's just one problem. Part of The Cheat's head has been cut off by the quick menu. It really bugs me. Other than that, great! – The Chort 17:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! What resolution are you running at? i'm using 1024x768 and the quick menu is far enough away to interfere. I can only guess you're running at 800x600 640x480. I tried at 800x600 and it looks fine too. If that's the case i don't think there's much that can be done. :( I don't know what else could be causing it. (Do you see artifacts in the HRWiki:Introduction pages?) --Stux 17:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I've added some extra spaces to the text and the page looks fine now. The Cheat is 100%! Also, I'm actually running at 1280x1024 and I don't notice anything wrong with the introduction pages. – The Chort 17:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh! That makes sense now. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks! Yeah you won't find any problems with the intro pages at 1280x1024, only 800x600 and below. --Stux 18:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry The Chort, but I liked the divisions too much after reorganizing the quick menu. You may need to add more spaces or something to make it work on 1280x1024. I'll check it out once I get back to the lab -- after Jan 9th that is. I hope the new quick menu look is still good. :) Happy New Year all! --Stux 21:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, if we can't add extra spaces to the page, what can we do? It's really irritating that most of The Cheat's head is cut off. – The Chort 18:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Flesh things out? Only if people like it and it's useful. Well at least if ppl like it ok. --Stux 19:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Italics in Appearances sections

Does anyone recall the rationale for italicizing all the descriptions in an Appearances section? I couldn't find anything about this on the Standards page. They seem like an unnecessary hassle for writers and editors to deal with, and can become overbearing on pages that have a lot of Appearances. I especially noticed this on Pie when I wanted to italicize TV Time Magazine. What if we just formatted all Appearances normally? The em dashes are more than sufficient to provide a clean seaparation between each title and description. — Bill 18:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Note also a very different format used in Twin Characters. Is there a standard documented somewhere? — Bill 19:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Probably not. --Stux 19:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I think italics are dreadful to try and read in large doses, but I, too, don't know where or whether this has been discussed. In the meantime, I have been putting them back into regular formatting whenever I've noticed someone change them. — It's dot com 00:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, now that I think about it I do vaguely remember reading a discussion very similar to this one. And i think it had been decided that it would be good to not keep italics. It may not have been with appearances but it was with a similar thing. I think E.L.Cool participated in it. He's the only person I can think of that could know. Maybe we can ask him? --Stux 05:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] protect

Shouldn't you protect this page?? TheThin 23:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

This has been discussed on this talk page already. The agreement was no. —BazookaJoe 23:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CSS, I think

The background image of The cheat, where is that defined? I see the code

<div style="border:3px solid #B3FF00;padding:.5em 1em 1em 1em;border-top:none;color:000" class="IntroPageBox">

but where are the attributes of IntroPageBox defined. Is it CSS document? I would like to look at the code to get a better understanding of how the page is contructed and possibly even develop one of my own for a different page or at the very least, mess around in the sandbox a little. I R F 20:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Try MediaWiki:Monobook.css. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what happened?

i remember that a link to a page with a homestar parory song called"all your base are belong to us"used to be on the site and i can't find it,plz put it back on or explain where it is ty

May I direct your attention to Has Matt's user page? Seriously (Talk) 00:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is the stick so good for hanging out at?

I just don't understand, it does'nt make sense to me. What is there to do at the stick?-ken

See origins. Thunderbird 03:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's an awesome e-mail, but it didnt explain anything. sorry man.-ken

Maybe see FAQ? And I know, the first reply didn't make alot of sense either. I just don't really have a good answer for you. Thunderbird 03:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah thunda, it is a pretty stupid question even, but like does it ever grow? I bet because its a STICK strong mad got ticked and shoved it in the ground er somthing.

You could also try Emailing The Brothers Chaps. Thunderbird 03:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

good idea, but it was already an e-mail.-ken

That was an email to Strong Bad. The Brothers' Chaps might answer your questions directly. I once emailed about the answer to the Jumble in caper (before I knew about the wiki), and they replied with the answer; Une Taco. Thunderbird 03:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

do they give you spam? and do you come here often? I don't even have an account-ken

No spam (unless you count Bubs' weekly spamvertisements), and yes I come here often. I'm an admin here. See here for further info. And if you dont' have an account yet, I would highly reccoment signing up. It's quick, free, and painless. Thunderbird 03:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, cool, mysterious, cool. But do I need an e-mail address, and will the wiki e-mail me thanking me for joining, and will I need to log on a certain amout of times in a month or anything?-ken

Email is optional, the wiki won't email you even if you do give them your address, unless you request a password reminder. Somebody will welcome you on your talk page though, and an account stays forever, regardless of how much or little you sign in for. Thunderbird 03:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

is there an age limit?-ken

Over 95 are not allowed to join, and under a year and a half are also disallowed. Besides that, the Pie's the limit. Thunderbird 03:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

and what are the limits to insulting stuff, because there was some stuff i did when I went into homsar, you will see it in discussions. tell me to delete it if it is too mean-ken

You can make general complaints on the chat channel. Personal attacks, however, are not tolerated. — Lapper (talk) 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
EDIT CONFLICT: I saw it here, it was kind of insulting, but if you're usually not like that you'll be okay. Debate is allowed, but not outright personal attacks, foul language, or obviously insulting comments. Thunderbird 04:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, i'll delete i guess, say, I got my account!!-ken

Welcome to the wiki Ken. I'd reccomend creating a user space. And if you want to sign your comments, type four of these: ~~~~. Welcome again. Thunderbird 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks man Ken 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

but should I delete it at homsar? Ken 04:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about it. You can if you want though. Nobody really looks there too often anyways. ;) Thunderbird 04:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, now I don't need to take that weird test with the letters, was that a drunk test? Ken 04:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's a test to make sure you're a human and not a computer program. We've had problems in the past with those, they can automatically vandalize hundreds of pages in mere minutes. See here for more info about why we started Captcha (the letters and numbers pictures) in the first place. Thunderbird 04:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah sorry, that was a stupid question anywayKen 04:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Naw, it's a valid question. And as a side point, through this conversation do you understand why The Stick is such a great place to hang out? That's what we've been doing for the past 10 minutes. It's a great place for that kind of thing. :) Thunderbird 04:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sure.Ken 04:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Btw, if you like chatting with Homestar Runner fans, here's the place to go. Thunderbird 04:25, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, not the chat room kind. g2g, and thanks for all the help, i'll be on tommorrow. :) Ken 04:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Seya around Ken. Thunderbird 04:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] .Ogg sounds

It feels weird having an article about a sound without a download of the sound. I've have an .ogg file from geddup noise as well as "Chairscoot", "Way-o Way-o", "The Standing-up Noise" and "The Get Outcha Seat sound". Is this kind of thing considered kosher on the Wiki? No Parking (Talk | contribs) 01:46, 8 June 2006 (left unsigned)

[edit] The Background

Can we change the The Cheat Background just as we did with the main page background? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 22:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Why does this even need The Cheat? Can't we just put a background image of The Stick? Wouldn't that be the tiniest bit more relevant? :P — Seriously (Talk) 22:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I kind of think it's difficult to find links on this page and that it could be organized a little better. In fact, I've already started work on a new design. Comments on the talk page are welcome. — It's dot com 23:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reference

Oh, the lulz. - 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What cartoon is this?

I seem to recall a Strong Bad Email or something like that where Strong Bad says "now in HD". If I'm mistaken, it may have been a Simpsons episode. Retromaniac 06:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

long pants is what you are looking for I R F 06:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I also recall a cartoon where Homestar asks Strong bad what he's doing, only he pronounces "doing" to rhyme with "boing". When Strong Bad corrects him and says "what your looking for is do-ing", Homestar says "yeah, but they're spelled the same". Retromaniac 21:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
That would be car, as you can find from a simple searchLoafing 21:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I'd already tried that. I didn't try searching for "boing" before. Retromaniac 20:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
No probalo. Sometimes you have to be a bit creative with the search — especially if you only remember parts of a quote ;-) Loafing 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External community groups?

Tell me if this already exists somewhere else or if it's just a bad idea altogether. I'm interested in finding places where our community has grouped together (created sub-communities) on other community sites. The Frapper map is the perfect example of this, but I recently discovered a fledgling group. I'm thinking The Stick (our community portal) is the right place to gather and document this stuff, but I worry about simply opening the floodgates. We'd have to come up with guidelines as to what sort of communities could be included in such a listing. What do you think? — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about listing opportunites to meet and socialize with other HRWikiers in some fashion (be it sharing on Frappr, meeting in an online community, etc.) or something else? I think that might be an effective way to divert some of the social interaction that tends to clutter at times, leaving the wiki free to be a workspace. (Of course, we cannot {and should not} entirely divorce the social atmosphere - but mere chatty/social interaction could be encouraged this way without interfering with the task at hand.) Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Qermaq, listing these places is not only helpful for individual members, but it might also make the wiki a more efficient place. As a threshold, we could list groups that seem currently active with at least five or so members. Should we only consider sites as JoeyDay originally proposed or should we include other places as well, such as IRCLoafing 04:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Qermaq, yeah, places where hrwikiers can congregate outside the halls of knowledge-basedom. I pretty much just wanna have friends. I belong to a lot of social networks like and Flickr where I haven't met or interacted with a whole lot of people. So I pretty much just wanna know where the friends I already have are hanging out so I can hang out with them. Is there a MySpace group for hrwikiers, for instance? Beats me. It probably wouldn't be hard to find out, but it'd be convenient to have a list of all the hrwiki groups that exist within other social networks for quick reference. Loafing, I'd say the IRC channel is a sub-group of a separate social networking site, namely Freenode, so it would qualify for the list as I've proposed it, but individual listings would be up to the consensus of the group or some predetermined body of standards. The Homestar Runner Network (if it ever gets off the ground) will probably allow for the formation of member groups, and since it's a separate site, it would also qualify for inclusion in this list if a Homestar Runner Wiki group were formed there. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 04:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure how many sites we could or should use this for. But I'm not sure how much this will make the wiki more productive. --Dacheatbot · Communicate 04:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, that depends on your idea of productive. Currently, when overly chatty Talk exchanges interfere, we point to the Forum and that's all we have. But what if there was a wealth of social opportunity available? What if you could work on the wiki here AND chat with your new friends there? That's worth pursuit. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
When you put it that way, lets go for it! Anybody have any site ideas? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 04:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: the HRN, well let's get it in the air! What needs to be done? And yes, IRC is already a great place to start, that must be included. What you propose sounds extremely resonable. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the easiest way to find social sites with HRWiki communities is... to make one! I didn't just find out that Frappr had an HRWiki community and gathered them all to one place. I created it and people started signing up. Want an official MySpace page for HRWiki? Make one and people will come. Heck, even I, that don't have an account there, will only create one for that purpose of being listed. And yes, I'm all for including them here as long as they are official. By that I mean that they are either approved by you Joey, an admin or a sysop, and cannot be a duplicate of another community (like another forum or another Frappr group). Elcool (talk)(contribs) 09:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why it needs to be "official". We would just document existing external communities, not endorse them, anyway. Or would we? That would require extra work for us with monitoring etc. And I'm not so sure about the duplicates either. If there is another active forum of hrwiki members, then why not mention it? They might have all kinds of different reasons to go separately. Loafing 02:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Cf. the Sightings pages. We don't necessarily want this to become a free-for-all. Some sense of vetting is probably in order, if only to alert the reader what kind of experiance they are in for. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I was tempted to make a Myspace HRWiki page and announce, but I didn't want the hassle of having to manage it. Other than that I think it's a good idea -- I'd be it's friend. :) --Stux 16:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
There is a Homestar Runner Wiki group that Myspace users can join. With such a group in existence, there's no need to create an actual user called HRWiki. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 22:53, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Actual users are so much more fun (you can put songs! like Circles), and I don't recognize anyone I know in it. I did add myself though. I'm the Linux Book. --Stux 01:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Makeover

See User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover

I think this page could be reorganized to make it easier to use. I propose the format linked to above. — It's dot com 00:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Like I said before, it's been growing on me. How come there are none of the committees listed in the quick menu? --Stux 02:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, there was talk of getting rid of the committees, but even if we did that, there is still useful information on those pages, so I put the links back. — It's dot com 15:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protect

I think we should protect this page. Like the Main Page so nobody can vandal it. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man

Like this? Nobody has vandalized this page since February. —BazookaJoe 13:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Maybe because it's protected since February? Loafing 13:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that's probably why. —BazookaJoe 13:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Ouch, I should have followed your link... I was trying to be sarcastic, not noticing that you had actually said that it was protected. That'll teach me not to edit at 2am :-/ Loafing 13:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
You don't need sleep. Can you say "overrated"? —BazookaJoe 14:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unnessecary pages?

I've been noticing people that say that "Does {subject of page} really need an article of it's own? And he reply seems to be "It's something on the HR universe, and it's something worth noting". I think that some things dont really need thair own page (Like Typing Tutor Turbo,Gross Old Wig, Trophy Lights), but these things do need to be noted, so why not make a sort of 'minor/one-use object list' that is just a list of the things that are not 'important in a large sense' but are still relevant to the HR universe. For example, using the ones I listed, would look like this (Sorry for size, i dont know how to shrink it):

Image Appearances Information
Nasty too Email time capsule The Gross Old Wig was seen in the email time capsule. Homestar Runner once asked Strong Bad if he could put the Gross Old Wig in his "time machine." Homestar's motives for putting it in the time capsule are both "because it was gross and nasty and old and [he] didn't want it", as well as "so all the future peoples would know [he] had a gross old wig."

However, Strong Bad refused Homestar's request, stating that the time capsule was not a trash capsule. Homestar instead put the Gross Old Wig in a Freshley's "time box," where, in the year 20X6, it will be discovered by 1-Up.

It should be noted that this is one of the times when the nature of Homestar's arms comes into debate, as he appears to be holding both the box and its lid, as well as the wig - a task that would normally require the use of not two but three arms.

Cheating on his New Year's Resolution. Where's The Cheat? Trophy Lights are apparently The Cheat's preferred brand of cigarettes. While searching for The Cheat in Where's The Cheat?, Strong Bad visits Coach Z at the locker room. Upon searching the locker that Coach Z claims he has found The Cheat sleeping in from time to time, Strong Bad finds evidence that The Cheat had been cheating on his New Year's resolution (presumably to quit smoking) in the form of a pack of Trophy Lights. Strong Bad, however, does not blame The Cheat for cheating, because, after all, he is The Cheat.
"How many WPMs can you get up to?" Email the bet Email garage sale (Jr.) Typing Tutor Turbo is a stand-up arcade game that apparently helps you learn to type, despite the fact that it has no keyboard. The King of Town owns this game, and Strong Bad used it to crush him. It is almost exactly like the game QWERTY, except it has a ship that you use to shoot words to accumulate "WPMs" ("that's words per minute, you know"). There is a PC version of the game called "Typing Tutor Jr." that Strong Bad put up for sale with a price tag of $23 in his garage sale.

While I stole the table from the floppy disk container, I think that putting one page with all of this on it would really help. Then just put redirects for the old pages. If this should be somewhere else go ahead and put it there. Please tell me what you think of this.-- 22:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Most people don't know it, mainly the newer folk or the ones who never looked trough histories, but there used to be a Rejects page with a similar concept of what you just suggested. It was deleted and all the minor stuff got their own page. Every once in a while someone who doesn't know that fact comes out and post an idea like that. Well, first of all HRWiki is not a paper knowledge base, and because of that we do not try to "save on pages" or "save space". Since it's a wiki every small item and minor character can have it's own spotlight. Not to mention how much less conversations it will save on what to include or not in these "minor" pages. Is the Yello Dello minor? It only appeared in one toon and had one line. Think this through. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 23:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I was talking of more like it would give a short description, with longer ones on individual pages/grouped pages. Or possibly grouped pages with ones that are relevant to one subject, or an approxamate time when they occured. I didn't feel like redoing the info on those, so i just cut/pasted the current info. -- 23:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
That's why we have the Items page (it should really be updated. Really). It lists every item with a recognizable image along with it. Putting a summary on everything will just made excruciatingly long. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 23:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC) What would be the practical advantage of grouping these items as opposed to keeping them on their own pages? — It's dot com 23:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
(i got a username now) Well, it would be useful not to save space so much as to keeping things organized. While it does make some sense to have them on their own page, such as less clutter on one page, its that if is useful to keep minor things grouped together, so like certain things that are relevant to each other are shown together. Also, it will help create a "chronology" of sorts, if you will. It gives it a greater sense of where and when certain things happen, both in real time and in HR time. Like if you wanted to see what the Gross Old Wig was, you could see other small props, whih show what sort of things happened at the time. Such as the Prawns (Although I'm not sure if Prawns have a page), you could se that it has some 20X6 meaning, along with Stinkoman's beloved prawns, and it would help by being able to show the relation of one thing to another. It would also be great for those short running gags, such as Strong sad as a "Email police", and you would see that ugly octopus smacking SS's face. So it's mostly to give better presentation of things that seem relatively pointless without. --Healthy Sam 03:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead-End Pages

What's the point of Dead-end pages? Every time I check it, there's nothing there! Religious Corn   18:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

That's a good thing! As that page says, it lists all "pages (that) do not link to other pages in this wiki." Dead-end pages should not exist, and this special page is a tool to help us find and fix them. So if it doesn't list any pages, everything's good. It's a very similar idea to Orphaned pages which sadly does list three articles at the moment. Loafing 18:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh okay. By the time of this comment there are only two orphaned articles. Religious Corn   20:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wanted Pages

After about 15 minutes of trying to unlink all illegitimate 'wanted pages,' all of the edits were reverted. The situation now begs the question: If we aren't going to let 'wanted pages' do what we intend, why do we still have it? As it currently is the wanted page is overrun with links to articles that people propose in jest, or to specifically show irrationality on a Talk Page. Is there anyway we can make 'wanted pages' a useful project, and if not, why do we still have it? — Flashfight 02:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

We never intended Special:Wantedpages to do anything. It's designed for use with a very large wiki like Wikipedia and comes standard with the software. It can be useful on our wiki to find where we've made an error in linking to a legitimate page (as you've seen when you fixed those links), and we even have a bona fide wanted page in the list (The Lucky Yates Show). I increased the threshold to 3 links for a page to show up on the list. Is that an improvement? — It's dot com 17:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
In fact, a huge improvement. It'll help us weed out rhetorical redlinks and user testlinks. Thanks one million — Flashfight 17:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
So, I was thinking the other day about this issue, and it seems that have a certain number isn't necessarily an improvement, however limiting the Wanted Pages to the Mainspace would be actually using this section as a useful project. Not sure if we can do that, but if we can it would be perfect. — Flashfight 00:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
As of this writing, there are 13 entries on the page. Using your local filter (aka your brain) to find the mainspace pages would be a lot faster than trying to code any kind of software solution. — It's dot com 00:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] how?

how do i become a sysop,beurocrat,ect...?--Wichesbrew82 03:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Bureaucrats alone have the ability to grant and revoke sysop and bureaucrat status upon users. — Flashfight 03:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
See my talk page. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
And also the FAQ. --DorianGray 04:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] msg

i just made a userbox and it said {{{msg}}}. what does that mean?--Wicheybrew 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

"msg" is the code for the message. For example, the part that says "This user likes Strong Bad. If msg= is left blank, {{{msg}}} will appear in the place where the text usually goes. Also, this kind of question would be better suited for the FAQ or the project's talk page. --DorianGray 04:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scrambled?Titles?

I!have!to!do!this!to!avoid!scrambles!!It!seems!titles!all!over!the!site!have!been!scrambled!up,!even!the!donation!thing!at!the!top. (Frazz 04:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

Great, every thing's major scrambled.


(Frazz 04:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

What do you mean? Everything looks fine to me. — It's dot com 04:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, man, go with the flow... everything is groovy. I don't get your problem, man... wbwolf (t | ed) 04:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Dude, what are you talking about? — Lapper (talk) 04:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

April.Fools.LOL? (Frazz 04:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

No, no. You must all be infected. Go get yourselves tested before it's too late! — Lapper (talk) 04:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
WhatFor?TheCootieVirus?AlreadyGotThose,Thanks. (Frazz 04:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC))
WaitAMinute,IThinkThisHasBeenDoneBefore....>:((Frazz 05:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC))
scrambled. having any don't my to I seem getting sentences be with problems Strange.
Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, gosh, I hope these people didn't come down with the dreaded Strongbad virus. I heard about it in the news. First, all
of the text on the pages looks scrambled to these people. Then everything looks normal. But finally, it all turns into a random
mass of vaguely Homestar-relatJay v.2019 (Talk) 21:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Geez, this is is getting annoying. Plus there is no new April Fools thing on But you
know what ISN'T annoying?! You all should go there now. Homestar-Winner (talk) 00:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Is the wiki being all scrambled on 4/1 our punishment for letting the Spring Fundraising Drive plateau at under $1,000? For some reason keeping sentences in order costs a lot of money. —Flashfight 07:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

No way; the real issue is that it burns a lot of energy to keep sentences coherent. After the success of Earth Hour, we decided to do our part to save the whales by conserving the energy that would normally be required to keep this website coherent for a day. Thanks to everyone's patience, we saved 0.9 whales!Trey56 07:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
That .1 of a whale is going to be really angry that Frazz and Jay and Homestar Winner for writing coherent sentences. —Flashfight 01:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flash 4 Wiki?

I just noticed on the TMBG Wiki, that they had created a template that can use a network-accessible Flash (.swf) file, and put it into a thumbnail-type image. Whether this be used for User-created "show-offs", actual H*R Clips, Site Components, etc., I guess is up to anybody who thinks this is a good idea. I think this be a very good breakthrough for the wiki. --Strong Devon 00:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

This came up on the fanstuff a whiles back, and, as far as I know, the points I raised there still hold... basically it boils down to:
  1. If we let people upload SWF files to the wiki, then there's security problems... a SWF with malicious ActionScript could cause havoc. Vetting won't work, 'cause it's easy enough to hide the maliciousness until it's either uploaded and strikes, or the vetter decompiles the SWF... and who's going to offer to decompile every single SWF that random wiki users make and check them out before they get uploaded?
  2. If we don't let people upload SWF files, and force them to host them themselves... then anyone who is capable of hosting a SWF offsite is capable of hosting a HTML wrapper too, and just linking to that. Letting them embed them in wiki pages is really not much of an improvement over that.
It looks like the TMBW template is the latter - letting people host SWFs offsite. I really think we have no need to show large Flash clips on the KB (just link to them instead), and Flash thumbnails (or even animated thumbnails at all), would be more distracting than useful. The "user-created show-offs" you mention really belong on the Fanstuff rather than here, anyway. --phlip TC 09:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Temporary forum

Can we use this as a temporary forum while the HR Forum is down?

No, please do not flood the wiki. You just have to wait it out. Loafing 20:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do i use User Boxes?

How do i use them? i cant figure it out! A little help would be appreiciated, Thanks all--Yeah Yeah its laaaawraaaabit! Yeah... give carrots man 18:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Did you already look at the instructions? It's all there, but feel free to ask if you are still having specific problems making it work. PS: your signature is way too long  Green Helmet 03:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Font Codes (for diacritics and umlauts)

Isn't there a special Alt-unicode sequence available when (or if) you were to sign up using diacritics? I mean, I've seen Heimstern's username have a diacritic "a" in his last name. What I did to my username to require an umlaut was not using the unicode, but I've copied and pasted an umlaut to my signature. If the process of using a diacritic is compatable works, what are the step-by-step instructions you submit in order for this to work? -Ümläut76 (The C Zone · Talk here!) P.S.: Speaking of diacritics, will they have an HrWiki with every language or dialect for foreigners? 15:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

To get, for example, an umlauted a, hold down Alt, type 0228 using your keypad, and then let go of Alt: ä. Special characters are allowed in article titles, but usernames are no longer allowed to have them (Heimstern Läufer's name is grandfathered in). This isn't to say you can't use them in a signature, as you are, as long as your name is recognizable. There are no current plans to expand the wiki into other languages, except for subtitles. — It's dot com 21:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New Wiki

Should there be a wiki just for The Brothers Chaps? I think it'd be fun, but I don't have the resources to do it. --Blow Up the Ocean 21:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

We have a wiki based on their most famous work, and we also mention their other projects. There doesn't need to be a wiki that focuses on them personally. That would be creepy. — It's dot com 21:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Making a new Page

How do you create a page from scratch? ThnikkOwen 23:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Create a link to the page somewhere (preferably the sandbox), or type the name into the search box to the left. A red link will appear once you search. Either method, clicking the red link will open a blank page at that title (Example: Example Page Name). Once you edit the blank page and hit save, the page will be created. --DorianGray 23:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Loading Screens

I found this ridiculous page by clicking the rando link at the bottom of the screen. I haven't found an article on it here, yet. Vallunge 1:39, 5 July 2009

Yeah, it's a new toon that just came out. We're on it already. — Defender1031*Talk 00:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Housecleaning Committee

Since this is our community portal, I'll post this here instead of Category talk:HRWiki Committees. While Homestar Runner is in this patch of dead air, um, dead air, I'm wondering if we could have a little "focus group." It would go like-a this-a:

  1. Over a period of a week, this group would discuss and vote on a specific task to accomplish. This could range from something minor, like replacing hard-coded external links with their respective templates, to something more abstract and general, like enforcing a particular style. Expanding certain articles, especially ones about inside jokes, would not be out of the question.
  2. Once the task has been decided, members of this committee would spend a good amount of their time and effort here working on said task for a number of weeks also determined through discussion. Depending on the task at hand, {{communitycleanup}} (or some variant thereof) should be included where appropriate.
  3. In the case of an update that is significant enough for {{whatsnew}}, the group will be discharged for the week. If this update is late in the week, specifically on Saturday or Sunday, this discharge may affect the following week.
    1. However, some updates should not trigger a discharge. These should (or rather, could) include:
      • Store updates (cs)
      • Main page messages (mp)
      • Podstar Runner (ps) (now defunct)
      • Miscellaneous (misc) should be dealt with case-by-case.

Note how I'd like to keep time measurements in week intervals. Of course, there are a lot of things to be discussed about if this train gets rolling.

I know this may sound like a stupid idea, especially since my draft takes a little bit away from doing actual work. However, I think that there are some benefits to be reaped from H*R's hiatus, and that organized effort and communication is essential to take advantage of it. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 19:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Secondly, the name of the committee is still up for discussion, again, if this falls through. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 19:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Translations?

Should we attempt to translate the wiki into other languages? I can do most French, anyway. Garythesnail 23:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

It's not that I'm saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but I must ask whether there's much demand for it. Homestar Runner itself is not translated into other languages (except through our own Subtitles project) so I doubt there's much demand. --Jay v.2019 (Talk) 00:21, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] /mp3s

Do you think the secret music files should be expanded on a little more? I recognized lines from several of the rap songs that would later make it into toons, and I saw that 3-Dee was credited for all of them when most were recorded under the name 2 Copies Sealed. And, does anyone know who was in Mark Margarine? All that stuff, you know. Haysi fantayzee 05:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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