Talk:Teen Girl Squad

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Teen Girl Squad is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.

Ok, let's all start to....

Do you think we should link this page to the 404'd page somehow? I think it belongs somewhere on this page, but I'm not quite sure where...

[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]] 23:51, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

Done. Though it could probably use some work... →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

I like the movement of the pictures too. Especially since most pages are like that. (Why didn't I think of that...?) [[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]] 20:54, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Because I'm smarter than you. :) →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

True, true... [[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]] 20:57, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Almost Teen Girl Squads

There are already three of them under the 'Fun Facts', we have a section for Strong Bad Email, so why not Teen Girl Squad? <=>Thunderbird<=> 15:29, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I just added in the "Sample" under issues and left the 404 page and virus appearance as is. IMO, "Sample" is more of a partial-issue and and virus is just a reference (it's only one line...). Having Sample as a "half-issue" of TGS makes sense to me, but not virus or the 404 page. Aurora the Homestar Coder 16:04, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

But remember, some of the "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" have only one line or so as a reference, like Fan Costume Commentary. -- Joshua 22:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And I don't think that they count as "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" either, but I think I'm in the minority there. Aurora the Homestar Coder 00:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the thing from Death Metal counts as a half-issue; I think it belongs under "other appearences." Any thoughts? -Unknownwarrior33 23:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree completely. It's no different that a bunch of other emails that have cutaways to Old-Timey, 20X6, and whatever. --DorianGray

What about "Issue 8 1/2?" Shouldn't that be in an Almost Teen Girl Squad, too? It seems pretty weird that it's counted as an actual issue. --Chupaqueso

[edit] Funky Friends

Teen Girl Squad seem to be a parody of Funky Friends (A girly fad). I once saw a comic about them that was very similar to Episode 3. One of the girls even looks like What's-Her-Face.

Although the concept of everybody dying is absent, TGS reminds me of Girl Squad from an episode of Dexter's Lab, wherein a bunch of girls would do stupid stuff because they thought they were fighting crime.

Y'now it reminds me of another girly fad called 2grrrls. One of the girls is the splitting image of So-and-So. 24.63.3.115 16:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I can kinda see a vague resemblance, in that they're both stick figures with shoulder-length blond hair... but I wouldn't say "spitting image"... --phlip ^T_C 16:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Or even "spit and image". - Qermaq - (^T/C)

19:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too biographical?

Do we need so much info on the TGS' character pages? (i.e. stuff that happened in one toon) Shouldn't we stick with the general stuff? And seriously, dump "Cheerleader/What's Her Face/The Ugly One's real name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer"; the names given comic are likely to be never used again. --TROGGA! 02:34, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I think the more information that we can get (besides obvious stuff, like, "Cheerleader starts with 'C'") the better. →FireBird

Whatever happened to Once And Only Once? --TROGGA! 03:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

To chime in with my two cents: I don't agree fully with either of you (I just have to be belligerent, huh? ;) ). Trogga: I think you take Once and Only Once far too seriously. It's okay if some information is duplicated, as long as it is duplicated appropriately. By your standards, there wouldn't be any character pages, because everything about the characters can logically be found in the various Toon pages... Firebird: The TGS character pages do seem a bit too cluttery to me. I think that character pages really should be about general character traits. The "hurt by" lists seem a bit excessive to me, especially as more TGS's appear... it would be like putting Strong Bad's email songs all listed on Strong Bad's character page... Aurora the Homestar Coder 03:24, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I say we reword and brush out all the little stuff in the biography, and keep the "Hurt By" sections. This way the bio looks clean and all the things in it can go into "Hurt By". Make sense? (I'm sure it doesn't.) →FireBird

That sounds aprettypretty good. The "hurt by" lists are fine if you don't have the same stuff written up in the biographical paragraph (which is how it is now). Aurora the Homestar Coder 03:32, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I think that it only seems cluttered (even to me) because there aren't as many toons that they are in. That means that if you like them, you will watch the same things over again and if you want more information, you turn here. But since you have allready seen everything, it seems a bit repetitive.

[edit] StereoTypes!!!!

Don't the TGS members look a lot like high school stereotypes? -Kinsey

I believe that is the POINT of the whole comic. --mibluvr13 18:46, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Slightly obvious, but true

[edit] its vs. it's - Running gag status?

On the closing screen, the contraction "it's" is misspelled as the possessive "its."

Is this a running gag or a goof? Please make your statements in the proper area below.

Arguments for Running gag:

Obviously not every running gag appears in every issue; The Birds are a running gag too, and only appear in some issues. The fact that it happens four non-consecutive times argues against it being accidental, but I think it should be noted in some way.
The fact that it's repeated 4 times--but not every time--increases its import.

Arguments for Goof:

Also, it represents a grammar error on Strong Bad's part, which we tend to point out since he's so picky with other people.
If it's a gag, then why come it doesn't happen every issue?
The TGS font does't include apostrophes. Everytime TBC want to use one, they have to manually add it in. I guess it's not always worth the effort. Even Whats Her Face is missing an apostrophe. - Joshua
- I think it's just them being lazy. - Joshua 19:58, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
It's just an accident that has happened to occur multiple times. Username -talk 19:26, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Mike has admitted that he has trouble with its/it's. BazookaJoe 19:40, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I think they're sometimes just lazy with this... but a lazy goof is still a goof. — It's dot com 19:45, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
It is a simple gramatical error. Nothing more, nothing less. Come on people! Rogue Leader / (my talk) 21:14, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Additional comments:

Either way, it gets listed. Both goofs and running gags are automatically noted. — It's dot com 19:34, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Color vs. Black & White

For character pages, should we update the images with the color versions, where appropiate? Or should we just leave as is? Or should we put up a color image along with the black-and-white one? - Joshua 15:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Like many other pages, I believe we should have both versions on the TGS character pages. —GWR 2004 ^Talk _Contribs 00:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. The black-and-white pictures are the standard, so I think they definitely need to stay. However, the color pictures are interesting and show a version of what the characters look like. They both have a place. -Unknownwarrior33 23:39, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

Okay guys, what's our policy on transcribing the TG's dialogue, with regard to capitalization? I mean, they don't capitalize anything; we go as far as capitalizing the first letters of sentences for them. But shouldn't "it's our tenth issuev-ersary" not transcribe as "Issue-versary"? —AbdiViklas 00:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Given that it doesn't really affect the readability of the page, I don't think it's worth worrying about. -Unknownwarrior33 23:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Real-World Reference?

The TGS' refrain, "SO GOOD!" is the name of a song in the Bratz Rock Angelz Album. Ironically, the Bratz resemble the same teen girl stereotype:fashion-obsessed, trendy girls. Should this be mentioned?(By the way, the only reason I know this is because I was clicking "Random Page" on Wikipedia and stumbled apon it. I don't play with Bratz!) Llamanade 03:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Depending on when the Bratz CD came out, it's more likely a sighting, if it's anything. I.e. if it was after Dec. 2, 2002. But it's most likely a coincidence; James Brown's hit [[Wikipedia:I Got You {I Feel Good)|]] also features those words prominently, but that doesn't make this a reference to that. —AbdiViklas 04:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Did anyone else Notice the Cheerleader Icon in Untraceable on the kill with me site?

[edit] "er" vs "a"

Anybody else find it a bit odd how the girls say their "er" suffixes as "a"? For example, see Olda Boys. Does anyone else think this is important enough to warrant some mention on the Wiki? --[User:breadtangle breadtangle] ([User_talk:breadtangle talk]) 02:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I do. --Sam Goldfish 15:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

So do I. I recommend we mention it on this page. -Unknownwarrior33 23:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See Also vs Navigation Template

Do we really need "See Also" if we have the navigation template at the bottom of the page with many of the links already there? And if it isn't in the template, shouldn't it be? I think the template is enough, using "See Also" only in instances where there is no Temlate, yet there is still a distinct link between no more than 2 or 3 pages. Good examples are Floppy Disk Container ⇔ Couch Mumbling, and Quote of the Week ⇔ Weekly Fanstuff ⇔ Sketchbook. And then of course disambiguation is used only when the pages have similar page names. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 06:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Back" Button

Is it worth mentioning that in some issues the back button will bring you to the toons menu and in other issues it will bring you back to the TGS issue menu thing?

Darthvader66 12:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure! ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] South park similarities

has anyone noticed the similarities between south park and tgs? for example, they die and then are back in the next episode with no explanation. same with south park's kenny mccormick. also, both have bad animation, feature four friends as the main characters, and have intentionally bad voice acting. ~ StrongChad 04:07 pm, 1/29/06

Never thought about it before, but I'm willing to chalk it up to coincidence. --Jay (Talk) 00:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The brothers chaps have been known to express their hatred of things like south park, so they probably didnt' mean to be like it. Seriously ^(Talk) 23:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the reason that it is similar to south park is because they hate it; perhaps its something like a parody (I know that its a bit of a stretch). Plus, I think that there are still enough similarities, intentional or not, that it should be mentioned. ~ StrongChad 03:36 pm, 2/17/06

Good idea. That may just be true. Seriously ^(Talk) 23:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

From UMFM Interview - 20 May 2003:

KEVIN: There does seem to be an intergenerational appeal to the whole website too, probably because it’s never topical or overly crude or off-putting, just sort of pleasantly strange. Is that a conscious thing?

MIKE: Yeah, definitely, I mean it’s still this way, but especially two or three years ago when Flash cartoons first were on the scene, you know, in ’99 and 2000, it seemed like everyone was trying to rip off South Park, or doing some parody of Star Wars, or the Budweiser "Wazzap" guys, so we didn’t want to resort to the crude.

KEVIN: And you’re talking to somebody who never really got South Park in the first place, I mean a bunch of foul-mouthed little kids never struck me as really funny, although I know some people love it.

MIKE: Yeah, exactly. I was intrigued by it in the first season and haven’t really watched it too much since. The notion of these little cartoon characters being able to say bad words and stuff like that really got overplayed back then, because it was the first time when you could distribute and make these little cartoons, and distribute them over the web and get a decent audience.

They don't really seem to hate South Park, just South Park rip-offs. --Sam Goldfish 01:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] issue list

I decided to spruce up the issue list in the manner of the menu toons page. This added running times, years and screen shots. I R F 20:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Should the 8.5 and 10.5 appear where they are or under the heading of Other Appearances?

I R F

22:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goof?

~~I've noticed that some of the TGS issue's back buttons go to the toon page, and some to the TGS page. Is this a goof? --Super Martyo Brother~~

Just read whole page, sorry! --Super Martyo Brother 22:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slashes?

"The Ahnberg Hand font used for Strong Bad's handwriting contains a few European-style slashes, including lowercase 'q' which The Brothers Chaps have been known to "Americanize". However, they have not altered the European seven in the current TGS main menu."

I have no idea what this paragraph even means.

The font has slashes through the Qs and the 7s, which is a European thing. The Brothers Chaps usually edit the font, removing them. They forgot to do so here. --DorianGray

[edit] wuzza?

The title of the teen girl squad menu is very hard to read. $H a r d n e s s t o r e a d + I t e r n e t s l a n g = c o n f u s i o n o r s a m e t h i n g$ .

[edit] Earthworm Jim reference

This was added to the page by an IP:

The Ugly One's name may have been taken from the Earthworm Jim animated series where Queen Slug-for-a-Butt referred to her twin sister, Princess What's-Her-Name, as "the ugly one".

I reverted it because I think the name refer to the teenage stereotype, like the other girls. I also noticed that the character's name is also similar to What's Her Face. Any comments? — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 14:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It sounds plausible to me; if it wasn't an influence on TBC then it's a pretty big coincidence. In any case, the way it is worded ("may have been") sounds pretty safe to me. I think we should put this back in.

OptimisticFool 17:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm with ELC. Looks like a coincidence to me. All of the girls have Nondescript Nouns as names. The joke as I understand it is that Earthworm Jim did something similar - the princess mentioned had no official name so she was only described through Nondescript Nouns. --Jay (Talk) 17:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

As someone who was familiar with Earthworm Jim (I can't tell from the previous comments if you all were), I don't think there's any connection. -DAGRON 19:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Onomatopoeia?

Things like "arrow'd," "lath'd" and "cerebellum'd" are not onomatopoeias. An onomatopoeia is a word that imitates a sound -- "voip" in the first TGS, for example. Someone should change that description, unless the claim is that being killed by a lathe actually makes the sound "LATHE!"

[edit] SBCG4AP TGS Issues

Should they be covered on this page and/or given separate articles? -- Cyberlink420 04:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure we should do that much, but we should at least mention their appearence. Superfield CreditUnion

Um, I'm one step ahead of you. --Jay (Talk) 16:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Grease?

So, I was watching Grease and noticed that the Pink Ladies group is quite similar to Teen Girl Squad. The leader (Rizzo) is 'cooler' than and insulting to the other members. There is a nice girl (Frenchy), and an 'ugly one'. A reference/inspiration? Bleu Ninja 23:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fear Not

Hey qqqq16{Pronounced quadruple q 16} on the disscusions.

I read this interview that had the Brother Chaps in it, and I think it said som'n bout they do the teen girl squad when they get bored or need some ideas or something. So disregard any comments you hear bout no more teen girl squad.

Hmmm.... If you wanna see some more episodes why not email the brother chaps about an idea for a episode.....

http://www.homestarrunner.com/email.html

Here's a link for you stupid and/or old and/or clueless and/or lazy

peoples

[edit] 4 gregs and brainkrieg

Now that they're on the TGS menu, should we add them into the Issues list? I'd do it myself, but I'm TERRIBLE at editing tables and/or uploading pictures SBE-mail Checker Dan 23:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Running Time

~~How long was Issue #8½? C-Son-L Sweaters 16:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)~~

Nevermind I found it was unknown on All Toons. C-Son-L Sweaters 17:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Store-0-4'd!

Should we mention how the link on the menu page to buy it on DVD wants you to log in to something and doesn't take you to the actual store?

It's because the link still goes to the old Yahoo Store, which is now defunct. It'd probably be a good thing to mention somewhere, yeah. --DorianGray 06:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Meanwhile, at the talk page

I think there should be a page (or at least a section of a page) about the scene transitions. They always have a drawing of a person, with the text written on them somehow. Gfdgsgxg zgdrc 01:49, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I really like AFTER SCHOOL!!. But I don't know where that sort of information would go or how many times it happens. Guess I'll have to watch TGS all over again. 99.48.86.26 04:06, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

"Meanwhile, at the thrift store", "After school", "Battle of the Bands", "At the Party", "Meanwhile At Summer Camp", "At The Prom", "Dooj" (if that counts)... that's enough for a page (or a section), right?

Gfdgsgxg zgdrc 23:15, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Sounds like a decent page. I'd expect there to be a gallery as well. I suggest some name like "Captioned Transitions" or something (though that could include the relatively ordinary ones from the main universe as well... though perhaps it would make sense to separate the page into "Teen Girl Squad" and "Other" appearances. Hmm...) — Defender1031✡Talk 23:31, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Guess what. Rick Tommy (edits) 23:36, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

That's different. This is a page specifically for the unique running gag of putting scene transitions on people's bodies in Teen Girl Squad (and possibly including regular transitions in a different section). However, X later is for the much more specific and generic "time later" screens in the regular universe.

Gfdgsgxg zgdrc 23:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Using my suggestion, X later would get merged into this idea. — Defender1031✡Talk 23:59, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

How's this? Gfdgsgxg zgdrc 04:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I think you should just keep it to the tgs. -50.234.189.37 12:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm undecided. On the one hand, it would give the article a clearer focus, but on the other hand, it would probably leave the other examples undocumented. Keeping it TGS would be beneficial to the page, but including others would be beneficial to the wiki and its in-depth documentation.

Gfdgsgxg zgdrc 04:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

The others are already documented on X later (which is not a good commando name). -50.234.189.37 11:39, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thing is, X later is marked as pending deletion (though I did make a new post in its talk page against an argument for deletion). I do think "Captioned Transitions" is a better name for the concept and the appearances mentioned on the X later page could be moved to this new page. DEI DAT VM

^┌_{datvm center}\^{super contra}_┘ 16:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)