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Technical junk

I'm kinda miffed that someone removed my comment about the broken JPEG icon being from Mozilla. I thought it was interesting. Oh well. And this sentence about Linux--The name is often thrown around as a buzzword by those who do not know what it is, which explains Strong Bad's absolutely random use of the name--sounds rather pompous, even condescending. ~ Aero 11:44, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)

You would expect a red X, with The Brothers Chaps being M$IE users. Update: Oh wait, maybe they're not. -woddfellow2 16:09, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)

maybe not, maybe they just assume that most of their fans use ie and thats why they always make the webpages appear like ie error pages. -Clever Dan

Mac popup?

Is the thing explaining how the Mac OS X popup looks really necessary? Why wouldn't it be otherwise? And complete with a screenshot? No offence, just seems kinda obvious. ~ Aero 19:56, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

I'm more bothered by it not being a thumbnail, as is seemingly standard nowadays.
Also... about this line:
"It also seems to be able to evade pop-up blockers. Uh oh, don't let the ad companies find out about this..."
What pop-up blocker are you using? Both SP2 and Google blocked the pop-up until I told them to trust HSR.com, so that doesn't hold true. At all. Shadow Hog 20:45, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
Aero has brought up a good point here-- the needless screenshot seems to make this already long article (mainly due to the long transcript) even longer. The fact that Mac OS X displays popups with a different bar across the top would be justified if, on The System is Down or Not the 100th Email!!!, there were a discussion on how "This Page Cannot Be Displayed" only applies to people using the Internet Explorer browser. The overall point being the TBC most likely chose to display popups in the style that they did expecting the most number of users to be using the aforementioned browser (along with Windows). And of course there are going to be users of other browsers and operating systems. I'm sure most of us can agree that we are able to imagine what the differences may be without the need for a screenshot. --Teh P. 22:35, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
I'm of the opinion that the Mac OS X thing doesn't belong. It just doesn't seem all that important. I mean, I noticed it was a popup window right away due to my using WinXP, but I didn't create a fun fact about it. The image just makes it worse, on top of things. --TheNintenGenius 22:18, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

Name of file?

Do we really need the name of the "Making out with Marzipan" file in the Fun Facts? I mean, it's being linked to already, and I don't recall things like that being in the Fun Facts for any other e-mail...

Wow

Strange, he wasn't nearly as dramatic when the Tandy exploded. And he pretty much threw it away after a while. This e-mail has "new computer" written all over it.

I get the impression that the Tandy was just some computer he happened to have, maybe he just inherited it from someone else or something, whereas the Compy 386 was something he specifically went out and got, himself, to replace the Tandy. So he's bound to have more emotional attachment to it. --sekhmet, 2004.11.19 20:36GMT
Actually, Strong Sad says in gimmicks that SB bought the Tandy at a garage sale for $15... But also the Tandy's demise was a freak occurance AND he patched it back up to work (for better or worse) two e-mails later, whereas Compy's demise was at the hands of someone specifically (Bubs) and was beyond repair (though if you think about, after gimmicks, the Tandy wasn't in such great shape either...) --TheEggman 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
Strong Sad didn't say that SB bought the Tandy for $15 - he said that SB COULD buy a computer LIKE the Tandy for $15. Technically, we don't know where or when he got the Tandy. --Jay 21:49, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
I sit corrected. I guess I always heard it the other way.--TheEggman 22:56, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
Well...He has answered more e-mails with the Compy...--Omega
IF you listen to the commentary on one of the emails on the Strong Bad DVD, mike talks about getting Strong Bad a "Lappy 486." Then, the virus email came along and wa-la, new computer. Oh yeah, Mike talks about a 'Lappy 486. ' Strong Bad gets a 'Lappy 386.'--[[User:Harry|Harry 19:17, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
No, it was a Compy 386. His Lappy is most assuredly a Lappy 486 as Mike mentioned. --Shadow Hog 19:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
Oops. Sorry about that. I'm...dumb. Really. My bad.--Harry 10:42, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

Just a heads up...

I've noticed that in previous e-mails that they've singled out occasions where everyone was used. This one come's close so I was wondering if anyone spotted Homsar besides the little Strong Mad sound effect.

Not I, and it doesn't matter anyway - Pom-Pom is absent as well. - Jay

Slight correction

I think Strongbad's line early on in the email is "Like the kind that mobs in offshore casinos send you?", not Moms. Makes more sense anyway, since mobs have been rumored to run, among other things, casinos, and though the idea of mobs distributing viruses is absurd, it pokes fun at the misinformation and paranioa most people have concerning viruses.

I thought about that, but I listened to it a few times and it still kind of sounded like "moms," so I just left it in. --TheNintenGenius 22:15, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
Actually, "moms" and "offshore casinos" together do make sense. Appearantly, you haven't seen nearly as much spam as I have. ;) --Pidgeot 16:15, 16 Nov 2004 (CET)
Agreed... the "moms" in question are probably not very computer-savvy and would not be aware that they are sending viruses to people in their address book, such as their kids. -- Kamek 20:47, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)
I was thinking more of spam advertísing "h0t mom pr0n" - many such sites will claim to give you free access to stuff as long as you download a small program, which contains viruses, malware, etc. Of course, you're not told the last part ^.^ --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 16:27, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The line about "Moms" is probably a reference to the Mother's Day Virus that appeared a couple of years ago. And casinos send you crap all the time. -Miss Free Country USA<<Yes, that was me. Sorry, forgot to log in. -MFCUSA

Eh, I recorded it and played it a few times and it does sound like "moms." --Úħ¡ βøв 19:05, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Denny's Menu

Now that Compy is more or less gone, shouldn't there be a new sbemail menu? Didn't they do this with Tandy?

Well No Name, they can't do it NOW. If they would've, it would have ruined the surprise if you accessed the email via the sbemail menu. They'll probably change it next week or so. --TheNintenGenius 23:53, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
Did they change it 1 week after gimmicks? -woddfellow2 16:13, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
Yes! After "gimmicks" the email menu was replaced with a pad of paper with the list on it. -Drhaggis 19:08, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

Bubs's left arm

You may not notice it at first, but when Bubs walks by for the first time his left arm is stuck in a Dancin' Bubs position as well. He is not really moving it back and forth from carrying Homestar's leg/Shotgun. This is actually position #4. Just thought I would clear things up.

The old girl working again?

Maybe strong bad will fix the compy like he fixed the tandy? I remember being shocked that it was still there after I witnessed it blowing up.-Clever Dan

Doubtful, since Bubs is selling it. --Upsilon
And besides, I don't see how you're going to get it working again with that gaping hole through most of its body. -Walking Armless
Nope, he (obviously) got a new computer, the LAPPY! Duh. --— talk Bubsty edits 17:50, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Oh come on, this discussion's, like, a year old. Don't go "Duh"-ing people for not being psychics. --Shadow Hog 18:43, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

"Fun" facts

Many of these "fun facts" are neither accepted facts nor particularly fun. -Drhaggis 19:14, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

I agree. I also think that the word "reference" is used way too much. -- Tom 20:38, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)
Yeah. I commented about this on the Strong Bad Email Talk. -- FireBird|Talk
I think one thing that we should start cracking down on is fun facts clearly already noted in the Transcript. (such as Homestar having Old Timey Homestar's body or Strong Sad's heads being from Strong Sad's Lament). In fact, that's what I'm thinking of doing right about now. --TheNintenGenius 09:30, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)
EDIT: I did do some of this cleaning, but I still think there's more that could be nixed, somehow. We'll have to put our heads together and figure this out.
Agreed re: "reference" There's a difference between references and superficial similarities. -- sekhmet 20:46GMT

Oh, check this out! Before the scene of a TGS style piece of paper, with the text "issue 3.14159265 and the rest" at the top, and The Ugly One extends her arm and starts slapping The King of Town is shutting down, it would also have an audio which goes like this: [Audio 1] or [Audio 2]. Note: These audio files are from the former french TV-channel La Cinq (This site is only available in french). --81.225.112.108 07:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST) Maudi Algabban

Strong Man?

Who keeps putting Marzipan as saying "Strong Man"? It's not like the sound is very distinct. Context makes it clear that she's saying "Strong Mad". - furrykef 19:36, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

The "Gibberish" Sound

I'm probably wasting my time, but I started fooling around with the weird gibberish sounds heard from Marzipan and the glitched Quote of the Day to see if there was any meaning to them. After applying several filters to the original wave file, I've been able to make out the following quote:

"(blah blah blah) this music... and the design... and (blah blah) musician"

Take a listen and see if you can make it out too.

Original gibberish "New" gibberish

There's definitely something there, I think, but we're never gonna be able to figure out what just by listening to it, no matter how we process the sound. - furrykef 22:01, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)
That's pretty creepy. -- FireBird|Talk
Hmm... I listened to it again I think she's still talking about the stack of VHS tapes. I think she's not saying "(blah blah) musician", but "and the composition", i.e., the design and composition of the, um, VHS tapes (you know, making a big deal out of it like it were an art sculpture, not unlike Marzipan). I can't hear the "c" in "composition" there, but it could have been filtered out or something. I could be way off, though. The word "design" sticks out pretty well but the rest is just muddled. - furrykef 23:24, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)

Is it just me, or does the beginning and end of the original gibberish sound a little bit like the opening theme from the first season of Digimon?

It's probably you. But I've never seen it. And that comment wasn't necessary. -- FireBird|Talk

Hey! I think I got what Marzipan is trying to say! Look. I used Creative and tweaked the sounds a bit! It sounded like... On the contrary the music and the violin need the auto face rubber...? Umm I don't think I heard it right but thats what I got so far.--Omega If you need to talk to me or have any question or comments visit my talk page.Talk

Months later, I've stumbled upon this discussion, and here's what I hear it as: "It accentuates music, and the design, and the composition..." --FortyTwo 09:17, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

Wow, that's cool, keep us posted if u get it working better (i mean u can fully decipher it.) -- Deoxyman|Talk 2 Me!

  • It just takes me to some page about Half life 2. OWIE!
    • Me too. What the heck! --acekirby13 14:12, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)'
      • Ditto. I really wanted to hear the new gibberish. Kvb 11:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

To me it's always sounded like [I've ever] seen. Which one is your fav-orite?'--AndrewNeo 01:57, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I uploaded some files - Before and After. These are sounds of distorted marzipan before and after editing - I raised the pitch and used a noise filter. It introduced a lot of extra harmonics, though. This makes me think she's saying "It accentuates the form, and the design, and the composition." - Eman

  • FYI: I fixed your Ogg links. Use [[Media:Before.ogg|Description]] for sound files. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 01:30, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
  • After listening to After.ogg (and speeding it up a bit more to more closely match Marzipan's voice), I have to agree. Though those first two words are still pretty obscure - I almost hear "It concentrates the form" - the rest of it is pretty clear, though. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 01:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Actually, listening to the slower version makes me think "In countries, new accord, the desire, and the composition". Makes no sense, but that's what I'm hearing now. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 01:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC
      • Here's another edited version: After editing, numba two. Here I raised the pitch a little bit more, and got rid of some of the higher harmonic frequencies - the result sounds a little damped, but you can still make it out. I think that the distorted gibberish was in fact a clip of Missy saying "It accentuates the accord, and the design, and the compositionnnn!" which TBC distorted quite a bit and transposed down by two octaves or so. Note that if this was a clip of one of TBC, it would sound like a chipmunk; it's very probably a female voice. Although we can't say for certain that it's Missy Chapman, it seems likely since she provides Marzipan's (normal) voice. - Eman
    • Is there any other version you can use? I want to hear it, but my computer doesn't support .oggs. - Joshua 22:42, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
      • I tried to upload an MP3 version of this file, but MediaWiki won't let me - says it doesn't allow MP3s. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Ogg is a patent-free, fully open multimedia bitstream container format. There are many 3rd party multimedia players available. -- Tom 05:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Pruning

I just went and slashed a lot of fun facts. I also separated the references for now, just because there are so many (and some are disputed). This might be temporary, and don't think it'd be necessary to create a "References" section for every e-mail, just reference-heavy ones. I'm not entirely happy with that, since in some cases it's hard to figure out if something is more of a fun fact or a reference. But this is just a start and it might help bring some order from the chaos. (I also did my best to order the references in the rough order they appear in the e-mail, so it'll be easier to find the one you want to edit/remove/etc.) - furrykef 08:17, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

Just to clarify, the idea in separating the references from the fun facts now is so that both can be pruned more efficiently. - furrykef 08:27, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)
If we do it on this e-mail we should do it on all of them (if needed). Should we get to work on this? Or is it already in progress? -- FireBird|Talk
I disagree that it'd be necessary for all the other e-mails. I mean, really, is it that necessary that every e-mail page follow precisely the same format? It's good to be consistent, but also bear in mind that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds". I don't see advantages in doing it for all the other e-mails. I do see advantages in doing it for this one, at least until we get the list sorted out. - furrykef 17:17, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)
I think if this one needs it, all others need it (except for ones who have no references in them). If we don't let Strong Bad e-mails follow the same format, why not let the transcripts follow their own format, or the toons? I think it's definately necessary for all Strong Bad E-mails to follow the same format. -- FireBird|Talk
You don't understand. You all understand. I mean, don't understand. Well, anyway, the difference is that transcripts, toons, etc. follow the same general format because there is usually no significant reason to deviate. On the other hand, most of them don't have "fun facts" sections filling up a third of the page, either. You say they all need to follow precisely the same format, but I must ask you: why? This isn't arbitrary format fiddling. I stated my case (which you didn't argue with), and I also said that it will probably be temporary. Tell me, what brings greater benefit: trying to organize the mess mass of dumb fun facts, or sticking to the same old format for no reason other the sake of sticking to a format? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 08:02, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)
I'm not trying to get into some big argument here. Just a head's up.
I'm not saying ditch the format thing. I love the idea, but I think it should be with every e-mail, and not just ones with loads of referencs. Just think- wouldn't be more organized? If one e-mail has a load of references in it, we could put a sub-heading for "references", but why not all other e-mails with references, even if it's only three? I feel it would be easier to find, as well as look real nice. -- FireBird|Talk

STUFF'D!

I talked with Tom about it, and we decided that we should try out the idea of a fun fact approval page. This is just for trying it out: we haven't committed to it yet, especially not without the approval of the other administrators, but there should be no harm in trying it on just one page. There's also a forum thread on whether or not we should do it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 22:58, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

I think it's a good idea. I just think that the note on the virus e-mail (or any other e-mail) should be brought down to around
"There are more fun facts in STUFF. Please go there to view them."
Or somethin' like that. But this is pretty awesome. F'real. -- FireBird|Talk
Well, I want users to understand what's going on. So far, they don't: nobody has posted anything on the STUFF page, they just keep posting (worthless) "fun" "facts" here. So I also added short footers that read something like that. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 09:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Crossing the 4th Wall

I disagree with the last fun fact. Never do the characters acknowledge that they are CARTOONS. In the homestar universe, the strong bad emails (as the cheat is watching on his computer in huttah!) are analogous to live TV shows in our universe. Similarly, all the other instances can be explained by assuming that Strong Bad and co. are aware that people are watching them, but just as a live show.

Well, that's what the HRWiki:STUFF page is for. If you don't like a fun fact (and it hadn't gone through the process already), just move it there. I'll do it for ya this time. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 23:33, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)
I believe it is vaild to discuss the content of article on the talk page. That is what it is for. This is appropriate use of this page. - [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] 00:17, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

New "glitch"

I'm a bit skeptical about this new glitch:

  • On some browsers, this email doesn't work properly. First, the "Click On The Monkey" popup never appears even after disabling pop up blockers, then all the animation (except for the characters blinking) stops during the Strong Mad and Marzipan section.

What browsers are we talking about here? At the very least, we should list what changes from browser to browser. I haven't noticed any difference from Firefox to IE. I'm thinking this glitch might be due to a particular user's settings. As such, I've removed it from the article for now. -- Tom 11:05, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

It is probably my settings that lead to this. I'm using Win XP, with SP2. Due to my administrator not seeing how good Firefox is, I'm using IE 6, with Norton Internet Security 2005 installed. I have no idea why this causes the above to happen, or why it always takes me to Main Page 1 instead of NaN. It just does. -- Venusy 10:35, 12 Feb 2005 (Whatever timezone the UK is in)
Firefox isn't THAT much better than IE... I mean, it is better and a little more stable, but it's not the internet browser from God everyone makes it out to be... --Shadow Hog 12:05, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
Yes it is. :-) --Dongolev 00:51, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
God, I hate FF-preaching. Nothing more annoying than browsing a message board and seeing somebody screaming "UUS FIERFOX! IE SI 4 SUXXORS!" at people. The browser's good, but I really wouldn't mind taking a Super-Shotgun to the preachers. --Shadow Hog 16:41, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Don't TAPE it

The fake QOD box says "Hear it!" and "Don't TAPE it" at the bottom. I would have added this to the Fun Facts myself, but I'm not sure where to put it. mathgrant 22:07, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

Strong Mad's M

when Strong Mad becomes a big M it's a secret reference to here

Strong Mad's Yearbook Page
--Deoxyman

Closed STUFF

These were on the STUFF page and closed. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

Bubs' Belt

At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

  • Decline=Very Yes. Aunt Gert Alert! -- tomstiff 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --AnarchyBalsac
  • All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em! - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - SaikoRoxi 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

The Number 423,827

I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date by the site since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

Interesting Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --flashstorm 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

  • What? Where did this come from? --Jay 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --flashstorm 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • Decline anyway Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --Jay 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • probably not TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. Kvb 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • on second thought...' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. Kvb 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
      • Whoops-erson... Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.---erson 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is not random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — It's dot com 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. It's called a random number! -Upset_Your_Balance
    • Second. -- tomstiff 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Real virus?

Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

  • Decline I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --TheEggman 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. Aurora Szalinski 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- tomstiff 25 Mar 2005
  • Monkey D-Cline It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. Rudeboy87 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declinification. I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. Kvb 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • "So and So, I'm thinking you're DECLINED!" I think somebody just "random letter'd" TBC, and they made an email about it being a virus. Like Kvb said, it's gotta be a "virus" they made up.--MrsCommanderson 23:45, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Okay, I wrote it. And I confess, it is stupid. It seemed like a good idea at the time. -Walking Armless

Quadratic formula

This item was appealed and overturned below.

The quadratic formula is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

  • Delete. Not meaningful, fairly obvious unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Interesting. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. See Tom's note on it. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Too obvious. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep- Not many peple know that --Asploder
    • Second --Aawy 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --Jay 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --sterrence
  • Delete. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Delete. This isn't fun at all. →FireBird
  • Decline. Neither fun nor obscure. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - «Rob»
    • Second. On grounds of irrelevance. --The Paper 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
    • Please, please sign! Use --~~~~ - it shows up like: --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Mocify and Accept. Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. --Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • Comment. Actually, it's used to find solutions to quadratic equations, or zeros of quadratic functions or polynomials. --yeahyeah
  • Modify There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --Svelt
  • Accept. --Lyzz
  • Comment. I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --MadEwokHerd 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --Ingeniousknight
    • You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --MadEwokHerd
  • Decline. This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --evin290

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to Talk:virus --TheEggman 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Pi

The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits 

of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an 
irrational number, so "the rest"
would fill up an infinite number of pages.
  • Modify and keep. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Maybe just 
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits
of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"), which is an infinite number.
Or something like that.-- Lyzz
  • Keep Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete Way too obvious. --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. «Rob»
  • Accept. I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - J to the Sag
  • Accept. Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --Upsilon
    • Second. Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --oddtodd 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Modify and Accept. I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --racerx_is_alive 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --Aawy 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --MadEwokHerd 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

VERDICT: Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --TheEggman 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Gilligan's Island? (Declined)

The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

  • Keep -- Was thinking the same thing. -- olene
  • Decline -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- Kilana
    • second -- The Lyrical Wondermind 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second -- "And the rest" is a common phrase, and without anything else reminiscent of Gilligan's Island I think it's too much of a stretch to consider this a reference. --Alun Clewe 01:59, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Accept. This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →evin290 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --It's dot com
  • Decline. I very much doubt it. --Upsilon

Strong Sad's blog (Declined)

When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.

  • Decline part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --Jay 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Second --ultragm2003 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

Quote of the Day (or so)

Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

  • Decline There, you just said it yourself. Shortly >>AFTER<< the release of this e-mail. Kvb 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second --Trogga 18:09, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Drive letter (Accepted)

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

Only the first part of this was accepted.

  • Accept Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --flashstorm 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --TheEggman 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --User: Lappy 486
  • Strong Decline This happenes all the time with the Compy. --BenRK 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- tomstiff 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Its true. -- Tony Stony 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Compy's Reign (Declined)

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

  • Decline. This is a comment, not a fact. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Revise. Strike the second sentence and add a link to Compy 386. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Rewrite. "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --TheEggman 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declination Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--Posted by -erson 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. User: Lappy 486
  • Decline I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the Compy 386 page instead, but definately not here. - AtionSong 7 May, 2005
  • Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Comment. Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- Kiwi 16:54, 18 May 2005
  • Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Weak Accept / Rewrite - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. SaikoRoxi - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005
  • Decline. — It's dot com 14:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Quadratic Appeal

This overturns the item above on appeal.

The quadratic formula is an algebraic equation used to determine the roots of a quadratic equation.

Posted on: 04:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Closed: 03:21, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly accepted (after appeal), 32–10. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/virus.

I could have sworn...

  • I always thought strong bad said "I can't remember your name, Stavey. I also thought he said "Dear Strong Bad, I attachded boxinggloves on", not "How do you text with boxing gloves on"

Learn somthin' new ev'ry day (except Boogady Day, which is on the 39 of Junetember. OWIE!

  • I always heard it as Jaime, however apon closer inspection it does sound more like Davey. PAUAU
  • I've always heard "Davey" (as written in the transcript, though I didn't write it) and "How do you text..." (ditto). --Jay (Gobble) 20:09, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It's clearly "How do you text with moxing gloves on?" (sic) It's a somewhat bleak joke about how people have trouble remembering things when someone dies. SB is forgetting things about a dear friend. 68.175.61.17 18:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Easter Eggs

  • For some reason I couldn't revert the page back to normal, I couldn't FIND a page that had the easter eggs, only previous editions that had the list. I had to cut and paste from that list. Is there some virus in the wiki or something? Dasrik 02:53, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • You could just revert from the previous version. (Go to History, select an old version, then hit "edit" and save it without changing it.) Anyway, I've been noticing us missing a LOT of vandalism lately. I couldn't say why, but this IS getting close to finals week - assuming it isn't finals week - for anyone in college. Thanks for sorta-reverting it, though. --Jay (Talk) 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I dunno, maybe I suck at this, but I tried that. The first time, it wouldn't take, the second time I noticed that EVERY page I tried seemed to have the Easter Eggs missing. I thought maybe someone hacked the site or something. Dasrik 00:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
        • This edit was the last one before the troll to contain Easter Eggs. The troll only affected one edit. Did you hit the "cur" or "last" buttons (which don't work for reverting in this way), or just the link to the old version? --Jay (Talk) 01:01, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Getting Frustrated

Could the "Current Mood: Getting Frustrated" above Strong Sad's head be a reference to the "Other Characters" Quotes Pack?

No. It's a reference to Strong Sad's Journal, where one of his blogs uses the same icon. --Gafaddict 23:06, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

drive letter

24.24.226.13 is wondering what a drive letter is (in this fact: "After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears.") At the same time, I am too. A little. —BazookaJoe 23:58, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

"C:\" and similar. In SB's case, "a)" --Shadow Hog 01:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Click on the monkey!

Anyone else notice that in the click on the monkey pop up, you can here a tap between "is" and "totally"? --Swimma Dan.

Yeah I've got you're answer for that, the click is actuallay one of the pop-ups, but it doesn't go away after that scene ends because it's actually a pop-up, seriously! You actually have to click the "X" icon on the top right of it to get rid of it, I found it pretty interesting.Grit7 22:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Should we make this page look Virus'd?

I thought instead of being like a normal page, this can look like a virus affected it. I thought on the picture of each page, it can look like this. Should I do this? File:dthumb.png

That's a clever idea, but I wouldn't mess with the page without a huge consensus to do so, which I doubt will be forthcoming. — It's dot com 01:45, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Even if you were going to do that (and I'm against it, BTW) that picture doesn't look anywhere near glitchy enough. --Jay (Gobble) 01:55, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Creative. Clever. Brings flavor to the page. Tastes like raspberry sherbet. But this is an encyclopedia. Sorry, Hamburger. —BazookaJoe 01:58, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
On The Virus maybe we can replace one of the pictures with this. The description is on the top, when it should be on the bottom. Also, enen though this is an encyvlopedia, why not do it? File:dthumb2.png
Encyclopedia: a reference work containing articles on various topics dealing with the entire range of human knowledge or with some particular specialty. It's not for fanstuff such as a glitched up page. - Joshua
Well, it's your decision. If you want it normal instead of Virus'd, have it that way.
I don't mean to shoot you down, Lotionman. But here is the biggest problem I have with it: I don't want every random user to throw in their own little mutation to make the page appear more virus'd. Personally, it would get sickening after a while. —BazookaJoe 02:24, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Not to mention if someone actually comes here looking for information on this email, it being all glitchy would make it much harder to get this information. This is a knowledge base, not a fanstuff. - Joshua

Never say never

When I watch this email, it appears to me that Strong Bad is saying he CAN relate, but it's written here as CAN'T.

I don't know about the first, but the second is definitely "can't". — It's dot com 21:27, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
2nd. — talk Bubsty edits 05:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Whats exactly is a broken JPEG

well?

Nikolce Kocovski 06:16, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

A broken JPEG (or any image file) usually means that the image file cannot be found because the name was changed or it was typed incorrectly. Here is a good example. —THE PAPER PREEEOW 06:21, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Appeal

A fact about the quadratic formula similar to the one above was on the page for a couple of months, but then it was removed because it had been declined. It is a longstanding tradition to respect previous STUFF votes, even ones from the original format. In other words, you can't just dispute an item just because the vote didn't turn out like you hoped it would. In certain cases, however, it seems that if sufficient grounds can be found to reopen an item (for example, a fundamental change in the way we list fun facts), then we could reopen one. I would therefore like to appeal the quadratic formula fact on the following grounds:

At the time this item went through the process (which was still in its infancy), we did not have an Explanations subsection of Fun Facts. Now that we do, this item is a perfect fit for that category.

I would like to discuss here whether these grounds are sufficient to reopen the item. Please take a look at the proposed format for the appeal. Note that all original votes count. — It's dot com 03:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I support the idea of an appeal of this fact. I additionally like how your idea of what an appeal would look like inserts smoothly into the current STUFF interface. — Lapper (talk) 03:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Heh, I wasn't paying attention and mistaken it for the real thing. I completely agree with the appeal. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 03:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I totally support this too. This is a reasonable fact, and a good reason to appeal. Now that we have explanations, we should use 'em. I support this. --DorianGray
I agree. Do you think I agree? I agree! — Has Matt? (talk) 03:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

This item was entered into the appellate process. See above for the results. (Oh, all right, I'll just tell you: It was overwhelmingly accepted.) — It's dot com 03:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

JPEG/G-PEG?

The transcript mentions Bubs saying his mouth was a "broken JPEG" but it sounds like he said "gee-peg". Can anyone else have a listen and agree or disagree? Qermaq 03:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

G-peg isn't really a word or term. I think Jpeg makes more sense (though nothing really makes sense in this email). SaltyTalk! 04:05, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I think that's probably just Bubs' speech style affecting it. STRONG BAD: Hey, man... are GPEGs real? BUBS: Not yet! —AbdiViklas 04:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Images

I have two questions: Is there a picture of Strong Bad in front of the black? Didn't this page once loaded with pictures? Beep 22:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Goofs

When strong bad runs away from bubs and the cheat, his legs are missing in the flash file. The left arm also disappears.

just got RV'd on terms of "flash artifact" but when the left arm disappears it is apperent in the normal html version for 3 frames. I don't know if this matters or not as a goof, but just informin'. I can get a screenshot if you want.--Collin 03:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I think you mean his right arm, which is on our left. You're right, the arm disappears, but I don't think it's a goof. I think instead his arm is supposed to have swung behind his back as he's breaking into a run, and thus wasn't visible. The fact that it returns before he exits the frame (as the arm swings forward) shows that it was intentional. — It's dot com 04:10, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

ha, yeah thats what i meant. sorry i'm dumb. --Collin 07:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

1982

Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982.

Wikipedia claims that the first in-the-wild virus was written in 1982... I found this after seeing and changing an edit on Strong Bad's Technology – I saw the above fun fact when I came to add it here... the "Conflicting accounts" part makes me not want to blindingly trust Wikipedia on this (since conflicting reports are what a wiki is generally bad at) so does anyone have more info? Apologies for the massive run-on sentance. --phlip TC 02:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Wirus vs. Virus

Matt incorrectly used the German pronunciation. In german, you pronounce your w like v's, not v's like w's. V's are pronounced a like our f's. Want me to change it?

You're right about how W's and V's are pronounced in German. But Matt is not really incorrect. You see, Germans speaking English often make both mistakes: substituting W for V and V for W. I had a German teacher from Switzerland who used to always tell me to conjugate the "werb" correctly. So we should leave the fact as it is. Heimstern Läufer 00:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Ahh... ok. Sorry Matt.

423,827 viruses?

Arent there only about 114,000 viruses for pc's, 'cause strongbad got 423,827?

Yes, some anonymous user (you?) added the fact the other day, and it has been reworked and moved to virus#Remarks. (it's the third from the top). Loafing 11:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
er, yeah, that's me. I don't have an account, though. I didn't notice it had been moved. thanx for tellin me.
No probalo. Thanks for coming up with the fact in the first place! And hey, creating an account is easy and free ;-)  Loafing 11:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

reddest radish outtakes?

I decompiled this email because I was curious and I found these early designs for the Reddest Radish hidden under layers of the sky. I will post it in a second. --Homfrog 23:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Here it is

As you can see, that The Cheat there is included in the virus visuals. See ya! --Homfrog 23:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. I wonder why the bros. chaps would put that there? --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 00:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Can you decomplie Raddest Radish and see if the designs are present there too? — Elcool (talk)(contribs) 07:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Decompile'd. None of the above designs are present, as far as I can see (although I dunno what he means by "layers"). --DorianGray
UGH. Layers are used in Flash to make something overlap one another. --Addict 2006 00:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
This unused version can be found (along with three other versions, including the one used on the website) on the DVD release of The Reddest Radish (which is found on Everything Else, Volume 2. MHarrington 19:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Curiosity: any luck decoding the garble?

I don't know. I kinda put it through Sound Recorder and sped it up. It ends with something like "position" or something... I don't know. Anyone else have any luck with decoding this garble? --Addict 2006 04:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

See above – this has been discussed at length. --phlip TC 05:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

CLEANUP: font contradiction

So what IS it anyway? Fractions or Reference Specialty? The Virus article says Reference Specialty. --Addict 2006 15:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

First, I'm removing the clean-up tag, because I'm pretty sure we're only talkin' about one fact. Second, I don't see anything on The Virus about Reference Specialty. And by me, I mean Ctrl-F. So, if there's no use of Reference Specialty, I'd just leave it at Fractions. Bluebry 16:37, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, it's been named as MS Font Specialty over at The Virus article. This causes another font contradiction. --Addict 2006 15:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Podcast missing!

The update involving adding the Podcast button to the Navbar at the bottom seems to be in effect in most pages, save this Virus email.

True, its due to Homestar's head taking some of the words, but I just thought I should point that out...

Yeah, the same thing happened when the "rando" button was introduced. This toon doesn't use the normal navbar file. --DorianGray 02:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

A "What's New" button?

There is no such thing, even now. --Addict 2006 00:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't click "Stave it off" either. --Addict 2006 00:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Use tab, and when you see where a big new toon button SHOULD be, hit Enter. This is the "What's New?" button. Bluebry 00:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Navbar

Since the navbar was updated since this cartoon has been made and the navbar moved around in this cartoon, the random and podcast buttons are missing. Is this worth noting? Stongbah Preeow! 17:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that was pointed out above. Still, should it? Stongbah Preeow! 17:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it's worth noting. Homestar-Winner (talk) 17:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Question

Did the person who sent the e-mail actually send it like that? 202.76.162.34 02:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Presumably yes, since TBC have said all the emails (except mile) are real emails. Heimstern Läufer 06:21, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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