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== The New and Hopefully Improved Strong Bad Smiling Page ==
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What if we had quote boxes? Like at the top, or floating left/right Wikipedia-style... Ob'm know. I've added a lot to the tops of articles and sections (Oscar Wilde-style) and it might be nice to (a) standardize w/ a template (b) do something a little snazzier than blockquotes. Some rough style explorations made by editing notices:
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[[Image:Strongbadsblounskched.png|thumb|"You got SBLOUNSKCHED!"]]
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Especially in the early years of [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]]'s mouth has been most often seen to be in a slight frown, usually in a rectangular or round (when he talks) shape. His mouth was curved in such a way as to suggest he is often upset. However, there have also been plenty of times when he has '''smiled''', an effect created by slightly distorting the upper part of Strong Bad's rectangular mouth, turning his expression into an unmistakable smile. While some of these smiles were in reaction to or anticipation of his usual misdeeds, he has also found other reasons to smile.  As Strong Bad became a more prominent character over the years, the rate at which he would smile noticeably increased.  Smiling became a common and normal part of Strong Bad's character around 2006.  Although crude drawings of Strong Bad may have their own variations of this frequent phenomenon, the real Strong Bad has, and, most likely, always will have the same, bizarre, distorted rectangle of a smile.
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* The current quotes have been added for comparison. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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* If we turn this into a template, the image sizes are inconsistent: Matt's image is 60px, SB's is 24px, and SS's is 36px.  I thought {{t|qotwheads}} could be of use but that's for [[Quote of the Week Character Heads|a completely different context]].
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** Ah, the template I was looking for was {{t|head}} but that can't be used either.  That said, I've made both head images 35px to see what they look like. --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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* I've added earlier samples for comparison. --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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* Regardless of the format we choose, I think creating a template that allows consistent quote formatting would be a good thing(TM).  
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** That said, there are several questions that should be answered:
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** How do we handle quotes with multiple speakers? {{t|canonquote}} has at least one example.
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** This leads to a design decision that I think needs to be done early on: do we include the name of the speaker (as with the current "transcript" style format) or not?  In the transcript style, the speaker name is ''not'' a template parameter, it must be added by hand, but that allows us to link to the speaker however we want.  Otherwise, the speaker would most likely be a template parameter, but that breaks down if we have multiple speakers.  
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** Do we have more examples of non-standard quotes that we can reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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Give your feedback at [[Talk:Strong Bad Smiling#Where U Goin' 2?]]
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Would certainly be open to moving this to the HRWiki:Project space if it's something that other editors think is worth pursuing beyond my fiddlin' around. My thought process was to identify a very basic layout {{--}} i.e. what color/outline is the box, do we ''italicize'' or "enclose in quotes" or both or neither {{--}} and do basic problem solving to make sure it can work alongside a right-floating image thumb rather than solve for every case. I was mainly referencing how {{w|Template:Quote box}} on WP is used (i.e. for a phrase shared by only one speaker) to avoid getting caught up in how to deal with more complicated scenarios. As far as non-standard quote examples, some articles to look at include [[Batman]],  [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]], and the UMFM snippets on most [[main character]] pages. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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==Appearances==
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===Evil Smiles===
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*[[A Jorb Well Done]] — Strong Bad smiles while trying to get [[Coach Z]] to say the word "job", then bursts out laughing as he, [[Strong Mad]] and [[The Cheat]] ridicule the coach for not being able to say the word.
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*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] — If the steak is chosen as [[Marzipan]]'s treat, Strong Bad  appears and grins as he sneaks a few more steaks into her bag.
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*Email [[origins]] — Lil' Strong Bad smiles after he gets a drill for his birthday (which he uses on [[Strong Sad]], resulting in his belly button).
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*[[TrogdorCon '97]] — Strong Bad smiles while calling Strong Sad a butt for claiming that it was 2005, not 1997. He also smiles when he and The Cheat go over to the [[The King of Town|authorized Godzilla reseller]]'s booth and attack the reseller with pea soup.
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*Email [[candy product]] — During the commercial for SBLOUNSKCHED!, Strong Bad is smiling.
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===Other Appearances===
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=[[Shark-Tooth Bubs]]=
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*[[The Secrets That I Keep]] — [[Lil' Strong Bad]] smiles for the camera as does young Strong Sad.
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[[Image:Shark-Tooth Bubs.png|thumb|"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"]]
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*[[Halloween Awards Show]] — While Strong Bad is behind the podium thanking The Cheat and Bubs, he smiles.
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*Email [[stand-up]] — Lil' Strong Bad grins nervously while doing stand-up comedy (with disastrous results).
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*Email [[suntan]] — Strong Bad grins at Marzipan after drawing abs on his stomach.
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*Email [[no loafing]] — In the picture showing Strong Bad with the [[No Loafing Sign]], Strong Bad is smiling.
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*[[New Boots]] — [[Powered by The Cheat]] Strong Bad smiles after he asks [[The Cheat]] where he got his boots. He also smiles after bringing The Cheat his favorite food.
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*Email [[for kids]] — Strong Bad is seen smiling into the camera on his TV show.
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*Email [[montage]] — During his date with the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], Strong Bad is smiling.
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*A [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-01-27|sketchbook]] item pictured an extremely happy and smiling "[[Wrestleman]]" version of Strong Bad.
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*Email [[radio]] — The Strong Bad head wearing a fake arrow on the [[Radio_Stations#The_AM_Morning_.22CRUDE.22_Crew|The AM Morning "Crude" Crew]] poster has a big grin on his face.
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*Email [[part-time job]] — Strong Bad creates a drawing of a muscular version of himself grinning while saying, "Yeah buddy, I have muscles!"
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*Email [[best thing]] — Strong Bad smiles and laughs while watching [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]].
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*Email [[rampage]] — Strong Bad smiles and laughs with Coach Z when they joke about Strong Sad being a "master of ceremonies".
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*[[Senorial Day]] — While trying to play football with [[Senor Cardgage]], Strong Bad smiles.
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*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]] — Strong Bad smiles while riding on the hood of the [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Learner's Permit Girl|Learner's Permit Girl]]'s car to [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Babbage's|Babbage's]].
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*Email [[modeling]] — While posing for magazine photos, Strong Bad smiles.
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*Email [[Family Resemblence]] — In the Birds Of A Feather postcard, Strong Bad smiles.
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*[[Grumblecakes (video)]] — Powered by The Cheat Strong Bad smiles at the end of the video.
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*Email [[record book]] — In a photograph accompanying Lil' Strong Bad's record for Dirtiest Diapey, he is smiling.
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*Another [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-09-22|sketchbook]] item pictured an extremely happy and smiling "[[Dreamaway Johnny]]" version of Strong Bad.
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*Email [[geddup noise]] — As he introduces one of the many [[The Geddup Noise|Geddup Noise]] knockoffs: "The Git Outcha Seat Sound", Strong Bad smiles.
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*Email [[alternate universe]] — Strong Bad smiles after asking other Strong Bads to do a song.  He also smiles after saying hello to Senor Cardgage's tacklebox.
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*Email [[isp]] — When Strong Bad and Bubs see Strong Mad talking in a high-pitch voice, Strong Bad grins as they all laugh psychotically.
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*Email [[4 branches]] — Strong Bad is happy to know that there are free bagels at the water cooler.
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*Email [[concert]] — Strong Bad smiles while telling [[Homestar Runner]] about [[sloshy]].
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*[[Jibblies 2]] — To stay in character as Beetlejuice, Strong Bad smiles throughout most of the toon.
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*[[Behind the Bad Chapter 1: The New Hire]] — Strong Bad smiles while entering his office.
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*Email [[email thunder]] — Strong Bad is delighted to see [[The Paper]] return.
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*[[Most in the Graveyard]] — Strong Bad's fake mouth in his costume of the planet from the cover of ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' has an open smiling grin on it.
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*[[Kick-A-Ball]] — Strong Bad smiles when he hears that Homestar cheated, and lost (almost).
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*Email [[hremail3184]] — Strong Bad can be seen smiling when [[Senor Cardgage]] first shows up in his house.
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==Screenshots of Strong Bad Smiling==
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''From [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|"A Date with Homestar Runner" at New York University, 2005]]:''
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<gallery>
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<blockquote>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! And then... Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.</blockquote>
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Image:Secrets-smiling.png|Happy brothers
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Image:oldstrongbad.png|"Next time, try to add some more syllables."
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Image:SB-smiling-steaks.png|"Is this a joke? It's not funny."
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Image:littlestrongbadstandup.png|"How about this cafeteria food?"
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Image:SB Halloween Award.png|"We did it, little buddy!"
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Image:SB suntan smile.png|"Oops, forgot the hatching."
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Image:No Loafing!.PNG|"A sign that said 'No Loafing!' was the answer."
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Image:SBsmile boots.png|"Can I get you something else?"
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Image:sbemail110.png|"Can you say, 'a-The Cheat'?"
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Image:sbemail117.png|Dating the Wagon Fulla Pancakes
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Image:wrestleman.png|Wrestleman
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Image:The AM Morning Crude Crew.png|Stoops & Gusso
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Image:SB Muscles.png|"i have muscles!"
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Image:bellybutton.PNG|How Strong Sad got his belly button
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Image:SB-smile-limo.png|"Oh-ho-ho! So classic!"
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Image:rampage CoachZ SB.png|"What part of the streets are you from, exactly?"
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Image:senorialsmall.PNG|"Hit me on the slant!"
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Image:SB Learner's Permit Girl.png|"Then crazy Learner's-Permit-Girl gave-me-a-ride to Babbage's."
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Image:sbemail132.PNG|"I'll pencil you in."
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Image:Strong Bad Smiling DVD.PNG|...Flock together?
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Image:Strong Bad Smiling Grumblecakes.PNG|"At least don't hold up the line"
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Image:littlestrongbaddirtiestdiapey.png|Dirtiest Diapey
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Image:Trogcon-smile.png|"It might be for you, but... you're a butt."
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Image:The Git Outcha Seat Sound.png|"And now, everybody's favorite style..."
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Image:20050922 sketchbook dreamaway johnny.PNG|Dreamaway Johnny
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Image:Fishingwithcardgage.png|"You're gonna adopt me?"
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Image:SBPsychotic.png|Strong Mad's a website!
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Image:Strongbadsmiling4branches.PNG|"I'm sorry, ma'am, free bagels just happened."
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Image:Sbslhoshy.PNG|"Slosh-ay!"
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Image:Halloween 2007 Strong Bad.PNG|"That's a keeper."
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Image:Behindthegrin.png| "And here is your office."
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Image:SB smiling email thunder.png|"The Paper! You came back!"
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Image:Strong Bad as The Planet on the Cover of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.png|"What's the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything?"
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Image:badsmile3184crop.PNG|"You gunna help me come outta e-tirement?"</gallery>
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==See also==
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'''Shark-Tooth Bubs''' is a plush doll prototype of [[Bubs]] that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two [[mismatched eyes]], one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.
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*[[Strong Mad Smiling]]
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*[[Strong Sad Smiling]]
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*[[The Cheat Smiling]]
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=Shark-Tooth Bubs=
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[[Image:Shark-Tooth Bubs.png|thumb|"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"]]
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<div class="boilerplate metadata toccolours" style="margin-left: 1em; padding-left: 1em; border-style: hidden hidden hidden solid; background: #FFF">
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{|
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|style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:Matt closeup.png|60px|MATT!]]
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| ''We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.''
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|colspan=2 style="text-align:right" | {{--}} [[Matt Chapman]]<br><small>[[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|"A Date with Homestar Runner", New York University]], 2005</small>
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|}
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</div>
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'''Shark-Tooth Bubs''' is a plush doll prototype of [[Bubs]] that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two [[mismatched eyes]], one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.
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The plush toy was created by a company in {{w|Hong Kong}}, during the pre-production of the [[Kick The Cheat]] dolls. To demonstrate their ability to adapt [[The Cheat]] to three dimensions, the toy company produced sample plush dolls of [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], and Bubs (the first two of which [[Puppet Character Variations#Not Quite Puppets|have also been shown]]). Though the first three were created largely on-model, the manufacturer "[[theme park#Commentary Transcript|misinterpreted pretty much everything]]" about Bubs's [[dumb animal characters|odd design]], resulting in the inclusion of [[fangs]] and a horn.
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= [[Easter egg]] =
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==Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs==
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''From [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|a 2007 talk at the Georgia Tech library]]:''
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<blockquote>'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. [[Senorial Day|There's one]] where these two Homestars appear {{--}} like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, ''"Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."''</blockquote>
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=== Appearances ===
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[[Image:By strong bab age 5.PNG|thumb|Who actually made all those fence drawings...]]
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*All [[Halloween Teasers]] {{--}} The teasers feature messages hidden behind the [[silhouettes]] of the [[characters]], visible upon attempting to view the [[Halloween costumes]] with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
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*Email [[different town]] {{--}} Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
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*Email [[myths & legends]] {{--}} When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.
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==Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs==
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<div class="boilerplate plainlinks" style="margin: 1em; padding: 1em; border: 1px solid #ccc; background: #F9F9F9;">People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. [[Senorial Day|There's one]] where these two Homestars appear {{--}} like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."
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<div style="text-align:right">{{--}} [[Matt Chapman]] <small>([[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|"Homestar Runner comes to the GT Library!"]], 2007)</small></div>
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</div>
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=== Appearances ===
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[[Image:By strong bab age 5.PNG|thumb|Who actually made all those fence drawings...]]
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*All [[Halloween Teasers]] {{--}} The teasers feature messages hidden behind the [[silhouettes]] of the [[characters]], visible upon attempting to view the [[Halloween costumes]] with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
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*Email [[different town]] {{--}} Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
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*Email [[myths & legends]] {{--}} When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.
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=[[Abdi LaRue]]=
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[[Image:Compy Some Kinda Robot.PNG|thumb|Roll that beautiful email footage!]]
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''From a [[@StrongBadActual]] Tweet from [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2020#1250876792174514176|16 April 2020]]:''
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Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!
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</blockquote>
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In 2001, '''Abdi LaRue''' made [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by [[Strong Bad]].  Future [[Strong Bad Email]]s would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.
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=Abdi LaRue=
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[[Image:Compy Some Kinda Robot.PNG|thumb|Roll that beautiful email footage!]]
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|style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px|Stro Bro]]
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| "Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!"
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|colspan=2 style="text-align:right" | '''{{--}} [[Strong Bad]]''', {{postref|1250876792174514176|16|Apr|2020}}
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In 2001, '''Abdi LaRue''' made [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by [[Strong Bad]].  Future [[Strong Bad Email]]s would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.
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=Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe=
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:'''''Comment:''' this one uses {{t|canonquote}} under the hood!''
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{{clear}}
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[[Image:Strong Badia Bubs' Stand.PNG|thumb|Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?]]
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{{canonquote}}
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'''Inconsistencies''' large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. The [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work is primarily created independently by [[The Brothers Chaps]], without use of a dedicated style guide or {{w|Script supervisor|continuity supervisor}}, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|the 20-plus years of production]].
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Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' or ''[[The Three Stooges]]'', toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's [[FAQ]] recommends that fans remember "[[TVTropes:Main/MST3KMantra|it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it]]."
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=[[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]]=
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:'''''Comment:''' these are earlier samples from the page's history''
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<blockquote>''There's no— there's no style guide, or continuity— we don't have a continuity person working on set.''
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:&mdash; [[Matt Chapman]], [[geddup noise]] commentary</blockquote>
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<blockquote>''We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.''
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:&mdash; [[Strong Sad]], [[Page Load Error]]</blockquote>
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<blockquote>''There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.''</blockquote>
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:{{--}} [[Matt Chapman]], [[geddup noise]] commentary
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<blockquote>''We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.''</blockquote>
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:{{--}} [[Strong Sad]], [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]]
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:'''''Comment:''' here's the flag day quote with two speakers and multiple lines (from {{t|canonquote}})''
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''From the [[flag day]] [[flag day#Commentary Transcript|commentary]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[MIKE CHAPMAN]]: '''We're not very consistent with our scale.<br/>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' Yeah... We should make a style guide.<br/>'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''You'' can make a style guide.<br/>'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, ''you'' make one, more like.
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:'''''Comment:''' might as well go for broke and include all the other quotes from {{t|canonquote}})''
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''From the [[geddup noise]] [[geddup noise#Commentary Transcript|commentary]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.</blockquote>
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''From a {{postref|ID=1200983950707101696|day=30|month=Nov|year=2019}}:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG BAD]]:''' If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.</blockquote>
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''From [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG SAD]]:''' We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.</blockquote>
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''From the [[FAQ]]:'' <blockquote>'''Q:''' I noticed a mistake or inconsistency in one of your cartoons!! AHHH!<br/>'''A:''' It was either done on purpose or it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it.</blockquote>
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''From a {{postref|ID=1160753651637465088|day=11|month=Aug|year=2019}}:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG BAD]]:''' The more ye searcheth for canon in mine universe, the less canon ye shall findeth.</blockquote>
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=Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe=
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[[Image:Strong Badia Bubs' Stand.PNG|thumb|Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?]]
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|rowspan=2 style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:qod 3 - strong sad.PNG|35px|I probably could...]]
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| "We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us."
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|style="text-align:right" | '''{{--}} [[Strong Sad]]''', [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]] <small>(2008)</small>
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'''Inconsistencies''' large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. The [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work is primarily created independently by [[The Brothers Chaps]], without use of a dedicated style guide or {{w|Script supervisor|continuity supervisor}}, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|the 20-plus years of production]].
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Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' or ''[[The Three Stooges]]'', toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's [[FAQ]] recommends that fans remember "[[TVTropes:Main/MST3KMantra|it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it]]."

Current revision as of 20:45, 1 July 2025

What if we had quote boxes? Like at the top, or floating left/right Wikipedia-style... Ob'm know. I've added a lot to the tops of articles and sections (Oscar Wilde-style) and it might be nice to (a) standardize w/ a template (b) do something a little snazzier than blockquotes. Some rough style explorations made by editing notices:

  • Comments:
  • The current quotes have been added for comparison. --Stux 19:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
  • If we turn this into a template, the image sizes are inconsistent: Matt's image is 60px, SB's is 24px, and SS's is 36px. I thought {{qotwheads}} could be of use but that's for a completely different context.
    • Ah, the template I was looking for was {{head}} but that can't be used either. That said, I've made both head images 35px to see what they look like. --Stux
  • I've added earlier samples for comparison. --Stux
  • Regardless of the format we choose, I think creating a template that allows consistent quote formatting would be a good thing(TM).
    • That said, there are several questions that should be answered:
    • How do we handle quotes with multiple speakers? {{canonquote}} has at least one example.
    • This leads to a design decision that I think needs to be done early on: do we include the name of the speaker (as with the current "transcript" style format) or not? In the transcript style, the speaker name is not a template parameter, it must be added by hand, but that allows us to link to the speaker however we want. Otherwise, the speaker would most likely be a template parameter, but that breaks down if we have multiple speakers.
    • Do we have more examples of non-standard quotes that we can reference? --Stux

Would certainly be open to moving this to the HRWiki:Project space if it's something that other editors think is worth pursuing beyond my fiddlin' around. My thought process was to identify a very basic layout — i.e. what color/outline is the box, do we italicize or "enclose in quotes" or both or neither — and do basic problem solving to make sure it can work alongside a right-floating image thumb rather than solve for every case. I was mainly referencing how Template:Quote box on WP is used (i.e. for a phrase shared by only one speaker) to avoid getting caught up in how to deal with more complicated scenarios. As far as non-standard quote examples, some articles to look at include Batman, How do you type with boxing gloves on?, and the UMFM snippets on most main character pages. -- Bleu Ninja 20:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)


[edit] Shark-Tooth Bubs

"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"

From "A Date with Homestar Runner" at New York University, 2005:

MATT CHAPMAN: We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! And then... Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.

Shark-Tooth Bubs is a plush doll prototype of Bubs that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two mismatched eyes, one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.

[edit] Shark-Tooth Bubs

"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"
MATT! We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.
— Matt Chapman
"A Date with Homestar Runner", New York University, 2005

Shark-Tooth Bubs is a plush doll prototype of Bubs that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two mismatched eyes, one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.

The plush toy was created by a company in Hong Kong, during the pre-production of the Kick The Cheat dolls. To demonstrate their ability to adapt The Cheat to three dimensions, the toy company produced sample plush dolls of Strong Bad, Homestar Runner, Marzipan, and Bubs (the first two of which have also been shown). Though the first three were created largely on-model, the manufacturer "misinterpreted pretty much everything" about Bubs's odd design, resulting in the inclusion of fangs and a horn.

[edit] Easter egg

[edit] Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs

From a 2007 talk at the Georgia Tech library:

MATT CHAPMAN: People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. There's one where these two Homestars appear — like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."

[edit] Appearances

Who actually made all those fence drawings...
  • All Halloween Teasers — The teasers feature messages hidden behind the silhouettes of the characters, visible upon attempting to view the Halloween costumes with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
  • Email different town — Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
  • Email myths & legends — When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.

[edit] Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs

People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. There's one where these two Homestars appear — like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."

[edit] Appearances

Who actually made all those fence drawings...
  • All Halloween Teasers — The teasers feature messages hidden behind the silhouettes of the characters, visible upon attempting to view the Halloween costumes with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
  • Email different town — Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
  • Email myths & legends — When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Roll that beautiful email footage!

From a @StrongBadActual Tweet from 16 April 2020:

Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!

In 2001, Abdi LaRue made Homestar Runner history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by Strong Bad. Future Strong Bad Emails would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Roll that beautiful email footage!
Stro Bro "Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!"
— Strong Bad, @StrongBadActual tweet (16 Apr 2020)

In 2001, Abdi LaRue made Homestar Runner history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by Strong Bad. Future Strong Bad Emails would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Comment: this one uses {{canonquote}} under the hood!
Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (30 Nov 2019):
STRONG BAD: If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.

Inconsistencies large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the Homestar Runner universe. The Homestar Runner body of work is primarily created independently by The Brothers Chaps, without use of a dedicated style guide or continuity supervisor, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over the 20-plus years of production.

Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations Looney Tunes or The Three Stooges, toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's FAQ recommends that fans remember "it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it."

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Comment: these are earlier samples from the page's history
There's no— there's no style guide, or continuity— we don't have a continuity person working on set.
— Matt Chapman, geddup noise commentary
We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
— Strong Sad, Page Load Error
There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.
— Matt Chapman, geddup noise commentary
We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
— Strong Sad, Sbemail 200 Fakeout
Comment: here's the flag day quote with two speakers and multiple lines (from {{canonquote}})
From the flag day commentary:
MIKE CHAPMAN: We're not very consistent with our scale.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah... We should make a style guide.
MIKE CHAPMAN: You can make a style guide.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah, you make one, more like.
Comment: might as well go for broke and include all the other quotes from {{canonquote}})
From the geddup noise commentary:
MATT CHAPMAN: There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (30 Nov 2019):
STRONG BAD: If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.
From Sbemail 200 Fakeout:
STRONG SAD: We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
From the FAQ:
Q: I noticed a mistake or inconsistency in one of your cartoons!! AHHH!
A: It was either done on purpose or it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (11 Aug 2019):
STRONG BAD: The more ye searcheth for canon in mine universe, the less canon ye shall findeth.

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?
I probably could... "We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us."
— Strong Sad, Sbemail 200 Fakeout (2008)

Inconsistencies large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the Homestar Runner universe. The Homestar Runner body of work is primarily created independently by The Brothers Chaps, without use of a dedicated style guide or continuity supervisor, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over the 20-plus years of production.

Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations Looney Tunes or The Three Stooges, toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's FAQ recommends that fans remember "it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it."

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