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You do not have permission to do that

When I click "View Source" on a protected page, I get the message "You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason" ... I don't find the word "that" particularly appropriate. Is it saying that I don't have permission to view source? That can't be it, since it is showing me the source. So, I think the message should be changed to "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason" ... unless there are some other contexts in which the words "edit this page" would not make sense. OptimisticFool 18:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

True, true...but how many people will think it's necessary? I don't think anything of it, but maybe you're right. SuperfieldCreditUnion
The wording will be improved in version 1.13 (although it's still kind of poorly implemented in my opinion). Wikipedia has taken it out altogether. — It's dot com 22:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe some bolding would help? And possibly changing the font to red? Homestar-Winner (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Link the international welcome pages on the Main Page (aka "So, are we doing this?")

Two months ago, I posted the following here:

It's been like 10 months since the creation of the international welcome pages, however, the visitor counts are pretty low. With most pages translated, maybe we should start promoting them on the main page. These boxes designed by Sysrq868 look just fine, I would prefer the yellowish single line version.
I just somehow thought I should restart this discussion.

Since nobody answered so far, I'll post it here again, hoping somebody will notice it. TCIC (Talk to me / Stuff I did) 19:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I, also, wonder what happened to this project. Especially with the release of SBCG4AP in Europe, Homestar Runner is getting more international exposure (if that's possible for a internet based cartoon...). The welcome pages, while not perfect, are a fine idea, and most are ready to go right now. So what is the delay in redoing the front page to reflect this great community resource? wbwolf (t | ed) 23:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
I added another version with flags, it might still need some work, e.g. making the flags a part to the link to the welcome page instead linking to the image, I couldn't figure out how to do that. As for putting it on the main page, I kinda like this one. TCIC (Talk to me / Stuff I did)
PS: Ok, I figured out a way, but there has to be an easier way to do this.
While I do like the idea of having a language box, I'm not a big fan of actually having the box on the main page, at least in the area that it seems to be placed in most of the views people have designed. It seems to add clutter. Maybe a new button on the sidebar that pulls up a menu or something on the bottom of the page?--Flytape8490 15:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Typo on main page

Hey, I noticed a typo in the way the current featured article, StrongBadZone, displays on the main page. Toward the bottom of the excerpt it reads, "The game stylistically resembles the Virtual Boy vector game Red Alarm, which at also features a...". When I go to the article page it reads correctly, "which at some point also...." I assume this has something to do with the way the Featured Article content is inserted into the Main Page—I guess it doesn't come straight from the article? —AbdiViklas 12:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it doesn't come straight from the article... it's at HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 37. I've gone and added those two missing words to that summary, thanks. --phlip TC 12:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Bad "Watch" link on latest update

The "watch" link for the Strong Badia the Free video goes to the wrong place -- the link listed is http://www.telltalegames.com/strongbad/videos/strongbadiathefreegameplay but it should be http://www.telltalegames.com/videos/strongbadiathefreegameplay TTGJake 16:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

To edit the Main Page, you can go to Template:whatsnew and hit "edit" there. An FYI so you don't have to spend more time bringing this up on a talk page than it would actually take to fix a link. OptimisticFool 19:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the fix wasn't obvious or he would have done it himself (note that not even the person who added the update knew the correct format). — It's dot com 20:40, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I didn't know how to edit the main page, and even though I do now (thanks!), it feels a bit icky and conflict of interestey to edit the main page to update a link that points to my company's website. It feels more comfortable to just point out the glitch and let other people decide what to do. But thanks for the heads up. TTGJake 16:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Look what I found!

http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail200.swf

Yep, see Talk:H*R.com updates 2008#sbemail 200 and Page Load Error. Thanks though! — It's dot com 23:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Sure you guys aren't gonna put it in the updates box? 222.154.0.251 08:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
After sbemail 200 is released. Heimstern Läufer 09:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Ignored Inside Joke?

I think that having trouble with using fireworks (as seen in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon, Happy Fireworks, Date Nite) seems to be a recurring joke. If nothing else, a running gag. —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif 18:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Further discussion at Talk:Running Gags

Loading

No homestar runner cartoons load anymore. They go to the loading screen, and then nothing. PLEASE help. Also, please upload a mirror of sbemailtwohundred TheThin 19:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Working fine here. Either there's something wrong on your end or on the route to their server from your end. We'd need a little more info to have any idea what the trouble might be, but I suggest first clearing your browser's cache, rebooting and trying again. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The poopsmith's unspeakable action should be on the front page news

Seriously, you guys Cfive 23:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Why? The main page updates are for updates only. We don't have to label every single thing that H*R.com did in that week, and post it on the front page. Or else we'd have a lot of: SEPTEMBER 50th, 20X6: Strong Bad updated from 5 foot to 10 foot cubicle in The Office. And, just as a side note, it wouldn't be his "unspeakable" action...rather, it would be his "speakable" action! Get it? (crickets chirp) OK, nevermind. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 23:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, yeah but.... this is huge! I mean it's THE POOPSMITH and he not only spoke, but SUNG. After about 7 years or something. This isn't some character's insignificant action such as checking e-mail or something, THE POOPSMITH SPEAKETH! And yeah, speakable. Cfive 23:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but we don't put spoilers on the main page. — It's dot com 23:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
That, and there is no "OMG THIS CHARACTER DID SOMETHING AWESOME!!!!" section on the main page. Acam30 23:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see, yes. 'Tis better for ze peoplez to find out the magic for themselves Cfive 01:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I could always edit the "big things happen" userbox I made to have him in it. *shrugs* ColdReactive

There's an update...

New Quote, fanstuff, etc. i just saw... I got started on it on the Updates page... but i've done all i can do..

hey, hold on a sec...

wasn't the daily featured article weekly, like 2 weeks ago?

HSB150Homsarstrongbad150Homestar Runner!! 02:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope, the last block of weekly daily articles was last October. --DorianGray 02:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

really? i wasn't on this wiki a year ago and distinctly remember weekly articles. there's no way it was more than a month ago

HSB150Homsarstrongbad150Homestar Runner!! 02:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I misread your question. The last time we did daily articles was last October. Normally the featured article is weekly, yes. --DorianGray 02:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
But occasionally (as in, once or twice a year) we like to swich to a week of daily Featured Articles. Read here for more information. Homestar-Winner (talk) 02:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


sorry doriangray, now that you mention it, the wording is pretty bad. i was just about to ask my buddy on the wiki, cornman! (for info on cornman, and who he really is, check out my talk page. i call him that on purpose. i'm not even going to try to pronounce/spell that right)

HSB150Homsarstrongbad150Homestar Runner!! 02:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The Fourm

Will it ever come back? Did it close because of the trolls? BBG 16:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it gone forever? BBG 19:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe if you ask a third time in as many days someone will finally reply to you. — It's dot com 15:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
"Outside our control"? If this is due to those trollings, then they're completely under your control. You guys are admins, you can deal with them easily. Or you can appoint mods or new admins to. We had stuff like that happen before, we dealt with it fine. Locking the forum every time something like this happens is just going to anger your users and there won't be any forum left. -- Ju Ju Master — 71.233.64.218 (Talk | contribs) 15:43, 4 October 2008 (left unsigned)
I have no idea why the forum is currently closed, but you should think before you post something like this. Do you really think that admins have an infinite amount of time and energy? What kind of attitude is this? This is not a commercial site, and nobody gets paid to do the dirty work. Loafing 23:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
What we do expect is some amount of competency on the part of the admins. What are you all too busy doing, drooling at the foul creation you've built here? Obviously you don't have enough time to do things as simple as re-organizing your forum and fanstuff, so why don't you just get rid of them? What is their purpose if you're going to be too lazy to maintain them at all? Gentlemen, think before you recklessly create branches such as the fanstuff and forum that you can't hope to have any control over. PEACE. Lahimatoa~
No one's making you use it. Heimstern Läufer 04:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
No, but I prefer to use it. As an autistic manbaby it is very hard for me to socialize outside of the internet and the HRWF is the only internet forum I fit into, as it houses thousands of other manbabies such as myself. - Lahimatoa
In response, the admins have real lives. They don't sit around all day working on the wiki, they have jobs, and families, and responsibilities. They are not PAID to maintain the site, they run it because they enjoy it, and out of the goodness of their hearts. So instead of pestering and badgering them because YOU have decided that they aren't living up to YOUR expectations, and DEMANDING that they do exactly what YOU say, you should be on your knees THANKING them for all that they selflessly give to the community. Their task is difficult enough as it is without people constantly annoying them by laboring under the false assumption that they are here to serve YOU. To the admins: Thank you all, so very much, for the hard work and dedication that you show this wiki. — Defender1031*Talk 04:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
This is the funniest post of the week. If admins can't maintain the websites they create, they should either cut down the work they have to do (get rid of the forum) or enstate new admins, or tell an existing admin to take care of the problem. However, I don't see at all why you're concerned with the admins wasting their time, because all that is needed to fix the forum situation is a ten-minute talk-over with the forum's admins. In fact, exactly the same thing could have fixed the argument which caused the lower half to be locked permanently. The admins over here seem content to sit around, furiously -drooling- over all the information they've gathered (nothing to be proud of) than to make sure that the branches which they themselves created are even remotely functional. - Lahimatoa
Yeah. You're probably right. Heimstern Läufer 04:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
God, I have no idea how to use a talk page, but I'll try anyway. Lahi said: "Gentlemen, think before you recklessly create branches such as the fanstuff and forum that you can't hope to have any control over." Huh? But they did have control over the forum. Everything was perfectly controlled under Ramrod's benevolent reign. It's just that suddenly Stu and IDC decided no one is allowed to have any fun, so they wrecked the whole place. The best solution is just to throw the whole thing out. Just let it die.
Its simple, we kill the Batman.--72.183.47.235 05:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Wow, IDC, I really love how you answered the question at hand here. I want to know, what are you guys doing? Is the forum just locked because people were being naughty? Oh well, if you want traffic driven away from the site, that's fine with me. 76.14.145.26 06:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Lahimatoa, frankly, your concept of what this wiki is about isn't even grounded in reality. If you leave due to a lack of fulfillment of expectations, I will not shed a tear. The only drooling going around is out of the corners of mouths of morons without a clue as to how this all works and who and how many do the actual work. Anyone indignant over this slight disruption is very, very immature and self-centered. Be patient, wait it out, and for the love of all that is good, shut the heck up. We are tired of hearing it. We know, and all work possible is being done. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 13:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

You don't have to be so condescending. Or condescending at all. This was a simple matter that could have been solved with a few bans or delete posts. Why it's still locked (or was EVER) is beyond me, but I agree with these anonymous posters (especially the one about killing the Batman, very good point) The Noid 14:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

My intention is not to be condescending, but fact is people are complaining in a manner which is not going to yield results, and frankly I'm tired of it. Focus forum complaints on the admins at the forum, not at the wiki at large. I, and I believe all the posters in this thread, have exactly zero control over the forum. So, if you want change there, you are addressing the wrong users here. Again, I am not trying to be rure, but when you go to the well time and time again and it keeps turning up dry, maybe it's time to go elsewhere for water. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 17:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

lol, you guuuise

Qermaq, I have a few questions. How do you know that the forum is being fixed when you're not a mod or admin there? How can I contact admins when I have no alternative of reaching them outside the forums? What makes you think they'd listen?

Wow, this wiki and forum is probably the most drama induced place on the internet. First we got people talking about things that they have no knowledge of, then we get a response from an Admin who, quite frankly, can't even get the basis for a simple forum government right. This is how you solve the problem: Appoint one intelligent person who frequents the forum an admin, have him appoint two or three trusted and intelligent members to be his moderator staff, and everything will flow into itself. Its simple, and I'm amazed no one on the staff thought about it.--72.183.47.235 19:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure this will all be a very lovely thread once the forum is opened again. Talking about it here is a waste of time and energy. Loafing 19:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

A discussion about the HRWiki Admins involvement with the forum does not belong on the forum because none of the HRWiki admins post on the HRWiki, it's as simple as that. - Lahimatoa
I'm not sure you wrote what you think you wrote. But either way, this is a discussion about the forum, not about which HRWiki sysops or admins are involved over there. It's a discussion on how the forum should be managed, and that's a discussion that belongs on the forum, not on the wiki. Loafing 19:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, let me make this perfectly clear: We can not discuss this on the forum because the forum is locked. This is the only place the matter can be discussed.
Let ME make this perfectly clear. You cannot discuss this here, because this is not the place for it. Would you walk into a Ford dealership yelling about how the Renault shop next door is closed and demanding they sell you a Renault? If so, I pity the car salesmen where you live. — Defender1031*Talk 19:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
What an accurate comparison, seeing as how the renault dealership is a branch of the ford dealership and the administrators of the ford dealership are entirely responsible for the renault dealership being closed. Also I'm asking to buy a car. Bravo. -Lahimatoa
You all suck. Make noise where the establishment is, you don't go to the middle of no where to complain about an injustice.--72.183.47.235 22:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

DVD Screencaps

Is it possible to take screencaps with PowerDVD or Windows Media Player? BBG 19:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, assuming you don't run into a Windows bug that sometimes crops up: use the Print Screen button, open an art program of some sort, and select "Paste". I think Power DVD can also save screenshots directly, but don't quote me on that. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 19:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
With Windows XP, trying to capture with any single DVD player software never worked for me. I discovered, however, that if I first open the DVD with one piece of software and just left it paused, I could then open it with another piece of software and take screenshots to my heart's content. With Windows Vista, I haven't had to use that trick. OptimisticFool 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, PowerDVD lets you take screenshots directly, and other players might do that as well. The Print Screen button does normally not work, as DVDs are played using hardware acceleration, bypassing a lot of Windows hooks. OF's trick of using two players suggests that Windows XP might only provide hardware acceleration for one video window. If you know what you are doing, then you could disable hardware acceleration for video playback in your graphics card's driver's settings. This might result in enabling the Print Screen button to actually capture video frames. Loafing 22:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Mirror, Mirror, on the Wiki...

Did anyone ever consider making mirrors of all the toons and games and such in case something happens to the website? JCM 23:51, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure a number of people already keep SWF files backed up on their computers just in case of any such emergency. --DorianGray 23:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

View, Watch, view, watch

I notice on a lot of different pages that the words "view" and "watch" are not consistently lowercase or capitalized (here I'm referring to "External Links" of toons and sbemails). {{newsbemail}} suggests that they ought to be lowercase, but I wonder if there is some "rule" I'm not aware of. OptimisticFool 00:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion continued at HRWiki talk:Manual of Style

Awesome Subpage

Does anyone mind restoring Awesome as a User Subpage for me? I want to see if I can perfect it later. SBCG4AP seems to be creating some gramatically incorrect uses of the word. BBG 19:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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