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[edit] Everyperson and cheat go to www.gamefaqs.com now.

After the pank page, at the main page there a poll of the day: This weeks one was gibberish until i found this:

Poll of the Day ? Snakes on a Plane 0.999~ = 1 You Bought An N-Gage, Didn't You? All Your Base Are Belong To Us YOUR HEAD A SPLODE LUEshi O RLY? YA RLY!

Ps: I'm using Mozila firefox, so it doesn't turn out the same, but go to it now!!?

PPS: Sorry if i yell or demand from all of you guys and the cheats.

Nikolce Kocovski 06:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the poll of the day's probably over by now. I did notice it though, a nice addition to "sightings". (I voted for "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE") ;) Thunderbird 08:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I voted for LUEshi, of course. It's my duty. Crystallina 14:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
What does that *mean*, anyhow? -YK 21:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
See LUE and Yoshi, then see LUEshi. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 21:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, the weirdest stuff becomes popular, I guess... Thanks for clearing that up. -Y2K YK 04:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] File Download?

Whenever I click the edit tab at the top of any page, it comes up with a window asking me if I want to save a file. The file is "index.php". I always click "Cancel" to be on the safe side but that means I can't edit. Strangely, it haven't got this problem before and it doesn't appear if I try to edit anonymously. Also, I can edit without getting this window if I edit a section, revert a page or start a new comment (like what I am doing now). It's only if I click on the edit tab at the top. Does this happen to anyone else and is the file OK to save? Please help because I can't edit efficently! – The Chort 15:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

"Good news, everyone!" "I think I has the soloution!" OK, enough quotes. The main thing is, I don't have the File Download problem anymore! I think because of yesterday's April Fool's prank, my preferences got messed up somehow. You see, I had the "Use external editor by default" option checked which really meant "Download files onto my computer so they can be edited in a text editing program". By unchecking this option, it doesn't try to save any files so there's no more problems! "Thanks for your help, you old broom stick!" – The Chort 18:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HA HA, I knew it!

Man, that was funny! NOT! No hard feelings, though.--Jnelson09 16:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I actually enjoyed the prank. It's just that when people pretending to be other people say it's real that it gets annoying.—S*R 17:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Bitterly hinting at me does not change anything, WeakSquareWalkGood. — Seriously (Talk) 17:38, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Not just you; there were others. I'm just too lazy to browse the archives.—S*R 23:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiTikiTavi & server load

Is WikiTikiTavi really easier on a single server than MediaWiki, or was that a joke as well? Jecowa 16:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Probably, considering that WTT is a less powerful engine, but it is pretty unlikely that there would be a need to switch softwares. The pages may have been less because there was less formatting, but images seem to me to be the most demanding. Dylnuge videlectrix.png (Talk · Edits) 17:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
All that stuff about 'Tavi being better for our setup was made up. In fact, it was purposely exaggerated a bit so that people would realize it was a joke. 'Tavi wouldn't stand a chance running our wiki, which is why we switched away from it in the first place. Happy April Fool's! — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 18:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I really enjoyed the prank until gullible people started yelling that it was happening and switching sigs. Now I'm almost afraid of what's up y'all's sleeves for next year! =P —S*R 02:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Format

Come on, guys! That Tavi prank was kind of in poor taste. You really had me convinced, though. I'll give you that. Could you knid of avoid doing that? It had me seriously concerned.--Image:Homsar-in-motion.gifhr.pngΨHomsarΨroksΨImage:kookysig.gifImage:Cheat-shrug-tiny.gif 18:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Eh, I thought it was really funny. I was serious when I said I was happy to use the WTT software, though. Not only was it a prank, but it was a special treat for people who didn't get to use it/a source of nostalga for older users. I'm looking forward to seeing how they top it next year. --Acekirby|My Talk 18:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

By the way, for those who are wondering, there's already been a lot of conversation today that's been archived. I don't want to rehash any of that, but I do want to seize the opportunity to get preachy as usual. This whole thing had me "seriously concerned," for a number of reasons.

  1. A number of people knew, or were fairly sure, that it was a joke, but were very angry anyway and talked about crying for hours, leaving forever, or doing unspecified things with machine guns. I'm concerned about these people senses of humor. In particular it was called "cruel" more than once. People spoke as though we'd called a transportation strike in NYC, instead of simply changed the appearance (not even the functionality!) of a reference website about an Internet cartoon. If losing the soft blues and reds of the HRWiki really caused you substantial pain and suffering, then maybe the wiki is a little too important in your life!
  2. A number of other people decided it was for real, and reacted even more violently. Now, in their defense, it's kind of understandable that a change that huge, enacted with no warning or discussion, would raise some ruckus (see the next point: that's why it wouldn't happen!). But I'm concerned about this demographic, too, and their ability to handle change. What if this had been real? I was really saddened to see that so many people were ready to simply throw in the towel and walk away, or used their departure as threats. While it's safe to say that this particular change will never happen around here, Change, in general, happens. Relationships break up. Parents remarry. You get a new boss. You get in a car wreck. If you can't handle your wiki changing color, how are you going to roll with those punches?
  3. Finally, for both groups, a word of stern comfort. At one point, JoeyDay said that the sysops had been discussing the change for a long time in Da Basement, and that it had been archived by now. A lot of people did a lot of tricks with code and other techie methods of trying to prove or disprove that it was a hoax, but all it really took was following up on his claim. There was no discussion there, archived or otherwise. And that brings me to the heart of today's sermon. This kind of change wouldn't happen without a lot of discussion and wiki consensus. Remember? That's how things are done around here. We vote on stuff. We talk about it incessantly for weeks. The wiki is not "run" by sysops or admins in the sense that they randomly decide, in secret, to do something and then put it in place overnight. (Um... hehe... with the exception of this once.) This concerns me, that people would seriously think a change like that that affected everyone would be enacted without discussion, warning, input, or participation. I would hope people trust the sysops not to pull something like that, or, if they did, would stand up to them and supportively, constructively, but courageously tell them it's not right.
  4. In conclusion:
  5. Perspective is good;
  6. Change is inevitable (except from a vending machine);
  7. Give the wiki more credit;
  8. Investigate explanations; and
  9. When in doubt... chill. (If we were steering a Nuclear Class Submarine, a moments' hesitation or reflection and a relaxed attitude would be deadly. We're not.)
  10. This concludes How To Make April Fool's Educational in Ten Easy Steps. —AbdiViklas 19:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
For the record, I trusted the sysops completely. I think that that's a sign of how truly good you guys were. But I still can't see why there was so many people trying to prove it wrong. I heard countless people (you know who you are) trying to prove to me that it was a prank. I cannot believe that you thought there would be any benefit in ruining the prank for everyone. Why? Why did you think it was so imperative to make sure people knew and the sysop's trick was ruined? Because even if I knew, at least I would keep a secret better. — Seriously (Talk) 21:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and for once, I actually got preachy before Abdi. It just got deleted by Dot com. Yay! — Seriously (Talk) 21:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
The difference here, of course, is that AbdiViklas has the wisdom and authority to be preachy. When he speaks, you should listen. — It's dot com 23:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
And I have. The thing is, though, is whether or not I had the wisdom, at least there was meaning. It wasn't mistaking this place as a soapbox as you so "kindly" put it. — Seriously (Talk) 00:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
There were two criteria listed above, not just one. Wisdom was just the first of the two. — It's dot com 00:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
"Authority" is now needed to try to make the Wiki a better place, I'm assuming? - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
Um, no. But you do need some authority before you publicly address the wiki as a whole. Let me clarify that I don't mean that sysops are the only ones with any authority. Lots of users have it to some degree, and in particular it comes with making good edits, showing good judgement, having experience, and being noticed for those things. Also, if you're going to address the wiki, it helps when what you're posting is, well, correct, and what was originally posted here was incorrect. It tried to sum up the April 1 events while we were still in the midst of them, and it didn't take into account the fact that it was all just a prank. — It's dot com 22:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Even if you don't, you need to give people more credit. You criticize other people for not having a sense of humor without realizing that all the people you're talking about were JOKING! Did you honestly think anyone cared that much about it? -Unknownwarrior33 22:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
What? This conversation is a month old. What are you talking about? — It's dot com 22:52, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I realize that, but I figured it was worthwhile and it couldn't hurt. I apologize if I inadvertantly broke a rule or something. -Unknownwarrior33 22:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
It's more of a guideline than a rule, really. But you still didn't explain what you meant. Are you suggesting that the people who freaked out over the prank were just pretending to be upset and were really just playing along? If so, I do not agree at all with that assessment of the shenanigans. — It's dot com 05:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for breaking that guideline and not fully explaining myself. But yes, that is what I meant. -Gryff 21:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yet Another Prank-Related Topic

I knew it had to be a prank, I'm no wiki expert but I know enough to know that Tavi couldn't possibly work. Good acting job, though! With crap, Yeltensic (T C) 22:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I knew it was a joke because the Captcha extension I designed was still working properly on the site. n0dalus

Not Another Prank-Related Topic


I knew it was a prank because, well... I saw it happen first hand. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 06:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I knew it was a prank after I viewed the source code that showed "tavistyle.css," saw that Special:Version still said they were using MediaWiki, saw that all of the article names still had spaces/underscores in them (something distinctly not a feature of WikkiTikkiTavi without extensive custom modification--which they couldn't have done in a day), noticed that the "switch" was made arbitrarily in one day with no forewarning, and after all the other obvious giveaways (like when they started making up crap like "X32 caching," which I don't believe is actually real). -- Soapergem Talk.png Contrib.png 07:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I knew it was a prank because it wasn't how the admins usually behaved. They'd get all our approval, or at least tell of it first, and would try to format it to be more user-friendly and familiar before the switch, not months later. But I went along with it anyway to make it more confusing. I qualify as an "admin", right? >.> - Joshua 14:01, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I was too lazy to dig into the code to find out. See, doing that much work would defeat the original purpose of my coming to hrwiki.org (updates column is better than the "Whats New" button on H*R.com) - being too lazy to dig around and find out any H*R stuff I want to know for myself. --NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc  14:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I knew it was just an April Fool's prank when I saw this edit. I tried to add it to this page but Lapper deleted it! "Next episode, Lapper! Next episooooode!" – The Chort 14:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
If I didn't already know about it beforehand, my first clues would probably be from the fact that all the pages (other than the main page) were all identical, and given how much pain it was (or at least seemed to be from looking at the history) to convert from 'tavi to MediaWiki in the first place. Then there's the fact that all the special pages, apart from existing at all for some of them, looked identical to before (watchlist, history, edit, etc, etc)... at that point I'd probably check things like the source code, Special:Specialpages and MediaWiki:Monobook.css to check it was really just MediaWiki. Then I'd laugh and join in the fun. phlip TC 14:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTT Theme?

Is there any chance that the prank theme will be made into an actual wiki-theme everyone else will use? It looked kind of cool. (I know the main page was changed to support it, but still.) --AndrewNeo 17:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Dot com was planning on doing that, yes. Watch for it in the next while most likely. Thunderbird 17:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Great theme! But I did notice there's no link to the Fanstuff on the WTT skin. Could this possibly be fixed? -JestyTalk 10:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

The fanstuff wiki link is on the fake main page. It wasn't a separate wiki back then and so isn't up in the links at the top. Since we were trying to make our prank as close to the original as possible (while still maintaining basic functionality), we didn't include it. I have enabled the skin choice in the preferences mostly for the sake of recording our history. If someone actually plans to use the skin on an everyday basis and needs the link, I'll consider going to the trouble to add it, but for now I'm not going to worry about it. Glad you like it overall, though! — It's dot com 21:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Probably Another Prank-Related Topic - Underlying community problem?

Now, I may not be the king of enlightened observations, but a pretty good general rule of life is: "If your Wiki nearly blows itself up over a simple April Fool's prank, there may be some underlying problems in the community." Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll just go back to my little corner of the Wiki and hide again. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

Yeah, I think you meant, "If your users blow themselves up over a simple prank, then they need to take a look in the mirror and ask themselves why they're freaking out over nothing." I could also make several generalizations about those who went bonkers, but I believe I'll postpone... — It's dot com 21:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I think we may be thinking on the same wavelength when it comes to the generalizations, here. Either way, I did tend to mean the major "user gap" here, due to the NSMC newuser lock. We lost influx for the month that the lock was in place, then all came in a burst, having to learn the ropes at the same time. We've kind of been overwhelmed since. For visual reference:
If you want to see the dang thing, look in the history. I'm sick of misinterpretations.
Just kind of a quick mockup, you get the picture. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

Forget it, the whole thing was taken as some kind of ploy for superiority and eliteism by the "oldbies". - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r) 00:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I love that graph. It reminds me of MS-DOS for some reason. :D Trelawney
I think the graph realy shows...something. I was around as a user during the User gap but I didn't learn any thing. — Pieinbubsface (t) 02:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Heh, nice little graph you got there, pretty accurate, if you ask me. I like the term "Era of Good Feelings". Has Matt? (talk) 02:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
The term "Era of Good Feelings" seems to me designed to alienate and offend new users like me who are genuinely trying to be useful and intelligent contributors to the community. But that's just me. — Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 07:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't know; I'm not doubting your graph so much as the idea that it's connected to Saturday's ruckus. Most of the people making the most noise were major users (as opposed to occasional ones). And actually I'm not all that convinced of the graph now that you mention it; I predate NSMC, and when I joined there were a number of prominent users and minor users both who dropped off the radar since (Thesmokingmonkey comes to mind). And back then there were both kinds of users joining too, and the occasional spammer and/or minor vandal. No, I think the only difference is we're seeing the exponential growth in popularity of the wiki, so we simply have more of everything now than we did a year ago. —AbdiViklas 03:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Woah, I'm sorry about the "Era of Good Feelings" thing. It was just supposed to be a stupid reference to the time in American history after the War of 1812 when Federalist party dissolved and there were few disagreements. The graph wasn't meant to alienate anyone, or claim superiority of pre-NSMC users. Also, Abdi, sorry about making it look like there were no spammers or vandals pre-NSMC, I should've made that apparent. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r) 20:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
This will sound strange, but, does ANYONE like me here? I joined after the "era of good feelings", because I couldn't join during it. So, what? You're gonna sacrifice other possible users, um, userdom for yourself? I mean, if the wiki's gettin' hit hard, I can understand a 1 or 2 day block of all IPs and new users, maybe even a week, but, this one was like a month or two. So, seriously, this "Era of Good Feelings" can be renamed "Era of Selfishness". Sorry, just I hate it when users say the time I had to sit here and bookmark all of the pages I found errors in and couldn't fix was a "happy time". And, no offense to anyone, just, please everyone, stop saying it was a happy time. It truely wasn't for me. Bluebry 22:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Why does everyone think that I unilaterally hate every new person? When did I say that? I've been saying there are some 'troublemakers' since the boom, but we've gained some awesome new people! Bluebry, you're constructive, amazingly! One of the best of the new bunch! - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r) This happens everytime I open my stupid yap. I dig a hole for myself.

Oh! Wait. I just read the thing above mine. Umm, I retract my statement. And to Kooky: Thanks! Bluebry 00:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I should be the one thanking you. Sorry about not explaining myself earlier. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
Why not thank each other? Bluebry 01:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I for one hated the "Era of Good Feelings". It was okay for a while, but then things started slowing down, expecially that little subwiki thing you may or may not have heard of. Didn't help how H*R stopped updating for a month. >.> - Joshua 16:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HEEELP

I have an account that dosen't have lowercase letters and it won't let me in!

What's your username? LePorello / T / C 15:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
You sure it's here and not at the forum or fanstuff? All three are separate accounts. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 23:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Bad's lack of knowledge of the current date

Should there be a page on Strong Bad's commonly dating things "1987", "1998", etc?

First of all, you can check 1987 for mentions of the year. — Lapper (talk) 01:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
That doens't mean he doens't know the current date. He kind of screwed it up at the end of alternate universe, however. Ed lim smildE / talk 01:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
What about Trogdor Con '97 or Awexome Cross '98?

[edit] Sort of Ironic But...

It's sort of ironic that I'm posting this here...but would it make sense to create a HRWiki:General Discussion page for general discussion instead of having it all posted here? I'm not saying that it's a problem that general discussion is found here, I'm just saying that it would make more sense. -AtionSong 01:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

It has pretty much become wikihabit to use Talk:Main Page not for discussing the Main Page, but for general discussion relating to the wiki. I don't believe that we need a seperate page. — Lapper (talk) 01:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Also the talk page for our community portal is another place things are discussed. -- Tom 08:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Special:BrokenRedirects

Hey, I'm gettin' ome weird things, will someone verify if it's just my compy/browser (Mozilla Suite, if it helps) or if it's some error in the software. Bluebry 01:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

This is what I see:
  1. User talk:Yeltensic (Edit) → User:Yeltensic
  2. Game Boy in a Blender (Edit) → Special:Undelete
More or less, anyways. What's yours like? Am I correct in thinking these are links that redirect to a page that doesn't exist...? Never seen anything in the list before, so... --DorianGray
That's it. I just thought it was really weird. Anyone know the problem/solution? Bluebry 02:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
User talk:Yeltensic does not contain a redirect. Game Boy in a Blender redirects to Blender. No idea why these 2 would be listed. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I am now showing no broken redirects. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I am now showing the Game Boy in a Blender one. ! Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Same as me. Has Matt? (talk) 02:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Dot com's under the sink with the wrenches now. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Dunno how it got messed up in the first place, but I fixed the problem. — It's dot com 02:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Dot com, you fixed the Wiki. How did- what's your secret? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something Weird on my Talkpages

This might be related to the subject above (I see that my old talkpage was mentioned). I got a notification e-mail for my old talkpage (User talk:Yeltensic), saying that it had been edited by Dot com, but when I went there it was unchanged (I checked the history). Then, when I logged in as Granola, I got the "new messages" box, but that talkpage was also unchanged. With crap, Yeltensic (T C) 03:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I had to pull some strings to get the database to reset itself. It should be normal now. — It's dot com 03:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I guess it thought you had edited the pages because of that. I was puzzled at first as to why you were posting on my old talkpage, when I saw the e-mail. Anyway, good work fixing the database. With crap, Yeltensic (T C) 04:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pics

Can these pics be used?: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21]

--The thing Let's talk 20:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Used where? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 20:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
That's what I'm asking. --The thing Let's talk 20:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
These images were hotlinked from another website and we would never include them in an article in such a state. Please see HRWiki:Image use policy and HRWiki:Standards for more information. -- Tom 21:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I meen to upload here. --The thing Let's talk 21:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't see any reason to upload those images at this time. If we have a genuine need for anything like that, we can easily generate our own versions. — It's dot com 21:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I need help with adding pics 2 the site!!!!

Anyone who knows how to add pictures/images and other helpfull hints please tell me....

-Krosskid91

For images, please visit Help:Image. For learning other syntax, try the pages listed in Category:Help. — Lapper (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is it over?

Is H*R over?! I mean, no new updates. Sewiouswy!

Yep, it's over. We can all go back to work now. No, actually they're talking a little break for the Easter holidays, in all likelihood, and there'll be more soon. Don't forget Mike and Missy are startting a family too, so that takes time as well. Patience. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget the Great Drought of December '05 - January '06. That was a lot longer then the drought that's going on right now. They're probably just taking a break from all the 150th email work. Has Matt? (talk) 21:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I didn't give it a second thought. Heh. - Volbeat A The Cheat 00:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but now I'm getting worried. Someone live in the Atlanta area check to see if they're okay?--Jnelson09 15:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
C'mon. It's way, way too early to hit the panic button. — It's dot com 15:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Sadly, it appears that Don Chapman, Mike and Matt's dad, died this weekend. See his obituary. I ask that we all please not panic and that we bear with the Chapmans in this difficult time. Heimstern Läufer 16:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Is that so...Funny how we thought at the Great Drought of 05-06, someone had died and then it turned out the Chappos were still alive. Now...no wonder there's been a drought. I'll wait. --I Survived the Great Drought of '05-'06! 16:13, 18 April 2006
While there hasn't been any new *site* content lately, there *were* a few store updates and a new Podstar Runner toon, so it's not like they're doing *nothing*. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 20:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Should the notice about Don Chapman's death be posted on the wiki main page, and not just the recent changes? I wish I wasn't just some random fan so I could give them my condolences. Trelawney
Having gone through loss of family myself a few times, I assure you, the last thing they want is to have their private mourning invaded by countless web fans. I'd strongly advise against making any gestures in that regard, as heartfelt as they are surely intended. I happen to know Joey has expressed condolances on behalf of the HRWiki community; my opinion is we leave it at that. Keep them in your thoughts and/or prayers, for sure. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 01:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Trelawney, see my note here. Thanks. -- Tom 01:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sbemails gone

When I accessed the Sbemail page on the official site, the list was completley gone. The page was there, but there were no emails, and pressing the random button took you to 404'd. I tried to access them directly by URL, but it didn't work. What's really wierd is that the toons still work. Does anyone know what's happening? - NachoTalk00:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

It's working for me. Has Matt? (talk) 00:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm watching sbemail72 right now. Works fine, so does the list. You may have experienced a temporary server glitch or perhaps a user-side browser malfunction. Clear your cache and try it again. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 00:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Fine with my browser. Which one do you have? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 00:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, I was using AOL to not take up too many windows. I tryed it in Internet Explorer and it worked again. Tanks. - NachoTalk00:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MediaWiki 1.6

When excactly are we upgrading to 1.6? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 05:00, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's a good question. Let's say soon—hopefully this week, but probably in the following week or two. There were 65 hacks to this version that each have to be checked and, if necessary, incorporated into the new version. I am nearly done with the non-captcha part of that. I also have to make sure all the extensions, hooks, and custom special pages work as expected, but I don't anticipate that being much of an issue. The sticking point is the reintegration of our captcha system, which will have to be completely overhauled. You can bet that we'll upgrade within a couple of days of when that's done. Hope that answers your questions. (Note: this is barring unforeseen circumstances, like being brought before the Spanish Inquisition, which of course nobody expects. You should therefore be careful about quoting me on any of this.)It's dot com 05:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
*hides crimson capes* — Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 06:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
What's new in 1.6? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 16:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
See here. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 16:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Aha! Native support for a CAPTCHA. I assume we're going to stick with the fancy multicolored, sometimes hard to read one we've got now. I've found the one at meta.wikimedia.org to be profane at times since it seems to just throw up random English words. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 01:06, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notice

It is with great sadness that we inform you that The Brothers Chaps' father, Don Chapman, has passed away Saturday April 15th.
Please keep the Chapman family in your hearts and minds in the coming weeks, and please don't complain about a lack of updates or pester them with emails. Thanks so much.
Tom 16:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weird Secret

I was in the WayBack thung and I found this. It's not real anymore but, hmm... --The thing Let's talk 23:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The thing, I'm guessing that's not a secret at all. Urchin is a web tracking suite that I've used in the past on my own website (it's now owned by Google and has been renamed to Google Analytics; notice how it says "formerly Urchin" in the footer of the page I linked to). It tracks hits, sessions, downloads, bandwidth, etc. and can give you cool statistics like which keywords people are using to search for your website and which browsers visitors are using. The file you've found seems to be one component of the Urchin application. You can also tell it has to do with maintenance because the filename starts with an underscore. Good find, though. You must've been digging around for a while to notice something like that. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 15:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SB email reorganization

I was looking around the Strong Bad email pages, and I found something irritating to me. Page names of the sbemail are not only uncapitalized, but don't have a link to the Main Sbemail page. I'm up for moving every (I know, I'm always trying to completely change the wiki) sbemail to a subpage of Strong Bad Email. This way, users would have a handy link to the main page, and the page name would be capitalized (Which for some reason I can't do without). Any declines, accepts, or other ideas? — Seriously (Talk) 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

There is a link to the Strong Bad Email page on every wiki page. There is no reason at all to move anything. — It's dot com 20:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay. — Seriously (Talk) 20:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
The Template:Strong Bad Email that appears on every Strong Bad Email article also contains a link to Strong Bad Email. Each email is an article itself, they are not subarticles. We also have special settings in place for the very reason that we wanted to be able to have lowercase Strong Bad Email article titles. -- Tom 20:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
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