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Contents 1 Recap 2 Where's the New Weeklies on the WIki??? February 16, 2006 3 Napoleon Dynamite is a Homestar Rip-Off?? 4 QOTW 5 Vandalism of other wikis 6 Just a little question. 7 Two great ideas 8 Error 9 The hat 10 Location 11 You have new messages! 12 They Might be Giants 13 hsr down? 14 need more about DJ Teh Cheat 15 Teen Girl Squadcast 16 Unicode fun-ness 17 The wiki on Frapper 18 Inside/Outside 19 Geddup ALT 20 New look

[edit] Recap

This was originally posted on It's dot com's talk page. He realizes, however, that he will not be able to give this one a good answer for a few days, and doesn't want Kookykman to have to wait that long. Therefore, he is moving the question here to a more public place where anyone can address it.

Can I get a recap (no need to be brief, I have time) of the things that have happened here since the start of December? The wiki seems very different after my short break. o_0 - Kookykman(t)(c)(r) 02:53, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Probably the most easily summed-up change was The Tale of the Guestbooks. Aside from that, we gained some regularly-editing members and lost others. I'll let It's dot com elaborate, elucidate, expatiate, illustrate, lucubrate, and/or corroborate. —AbdiViklas 06:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I never liked guestbooks anyway. So good riddance, I say! Also, I've noticed the blurry and insanely hard to read letter codes for annonys... Who left? Who came? (I feel like an idiot asking all these questions, when I used to be Mr. In-The-Loop. =P) - Kookykman(t)(c)(r) 20:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Among others, Bubsty left. For, like, a year... Others have come. --DorianGray

And the blurry letters, a.k.a. "Captcha," are the upshot of the NSMC event (I believe you were around for that, right?), verifying that anonnys are actually real human beings. —AbdiViklas 01:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was around for NSMC, but these numbers are a little too blurry and twisty, even by usual website twisty and blurry standards. - Kookykman(t)(c)(r) 21:28, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where's the New Weeklies on the WIki??? February 16, 2006

I was just on the official H*R website and its got new weeklies. The wiki hasn't posted it yet and I don't know how to add it. I thought this site was so we didn't have to go onto the official site to look for updates.

Yes, but we don't have superhuman speed. It usually takes a few minutes for it to update along with the site, and a few hours to finish a new toon's page. - Joshua 00:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

It's correct that it takes time, because last year, I got on the official website and watched Happy Fireworks at about 9:00 A.M., and had to create the wiki page for it, so it's a good thing we have so many contributors. -Penguindude

[edit] Napoleon Dynamite is a Homestar Rip-Off??

I have this theory, that Napoleon Dynamite is a live-action rip-off of the homestar runner universe and characters. I've posted my evidence / conspiracy theory here: http://andrew.hicox.com/?article_id=97 what do you guys think? am I crazy?

Yes. --ISlayedTheKerrek 06:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I believe that you have several good points in your post, but that would just have to be a major conspiracy. The Brothers Chaps could sue for hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm afraid it's probably just a coincidence. — Lapper (talk) 13:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Tell TBC and see what they think about it-- Benol, aka Coach B 14:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The entire post is completely opinionated. While there are good points, like Lapper said, I don't think anyo of it bears any resemblence to Homestar Runner. Seriously ^(Talk) 16:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

nope, its just completely off base.... csours 05:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. I mean, Deb looks like Marzipan and all, but it's definitely not a rip-off.--Jnelson09 00:07, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm gonna write the article "Homestar Runner is Uncle Rico's Alien Father" later. Thanks for the inspiration. — Darth Katana X ( )

[edit] QOTW

should the quote of the week be attributed to the character who made it, ie bubs? csours 05:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it already? Gravy Train 22:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism of other wikis

This is notice that vandalism of other wikis in the name of the Homestar Runner Wiki will not be tolerated. Anyone found vandalizing another wiki in our name will be blocked on this wiki for a duration at least as long as if the vandalism had occurred here. — It's dot com 21:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I apologize greatly for what I have done in the past, and I accept full responsibility for what I did. It seems that I may have started a trend of wiki-vandalism, And I also apologize greatly for that. Since I trolled before this rule wa made, I kind of have a loophole out of this, but I would not mind spending the time off anyway. Seriously ^(Talk) 21:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Look, you do not need to reply to every discussion out there. Sometimes, you can let things just speak for themselves. — It's dot com 21:07, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

This is User:Revidnioc on the Wikicities server, and I don't like this trend. A troll has made several usernames on the Pikmin wiki and they seem to copy each other, one of them being "HRwiki.com is bhghbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb" or something like that. Is this the troll trend?

[edit] Just a little question.

Can blocked users still read the wiki? Just wondering.-- Benol, aka Coach B 21:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 21:35, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

They can also patrol edits and fix stuff on their preferences. Seriously ^(Talk) 23:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Bit 'o firsthand knowledge, eh? I didn't think of patrolling edits. Thanks Seriously. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 05:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't know that... that's an interesting "feature" of mediawiki. --Stux 16:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Firsthand knowledge. Not a good time in my life. Hehehe...Seriously ^(Talk)

If it's the same as Wikipedia, they can also post on their own talkpages, at least in some cases. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 03:52, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two great ideas

I have two great ideas.

1. We should list how many frames each toon is. 2. We should have a category for toons and emails with commercials in them.

What do you think? Homfrog 18:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the number of frames in a toon is really notable. I know of at least one case where it is, and it's noted in the respective article. As for commercials, that's not something we would have a category for. -- Tom 20:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

It's also noted in 500 The Cheats, since counting the frames means counting The Cheats. Besides those two special cases, Running Time pretty much covers the burning question - which toon's longer. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 21:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

And regarding #2, I don't think, unless the toon actually is a commercial, it's very useful. But it could be a useful category for such commercials, such as Meet Marshie. ♥ _tee^eff_oh! 21:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

There are lots I can thing of, such as Meet Marshie (as mentioned 'bove), Cheat Commandos...O's, Cheat Commandos, Fluffy Puff Commercial (sort of), and Strong Bad Sings to name a few obivous ones. Add to that there's also several trailers, such as Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer and Peasant's Quest Preview, plus In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer. I'm not sure exactly how to sort 'em, I'm just listing. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 21:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Error

Anyone else getting this when you hit "watchlist" or "Recent Changes"?

Parse error: parse error, unexpected ',' in /home/hrwiki/public_html/extensions/wfAutoDivide.php

on line 19

Because I am. Any clue why? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  21:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

It's been working fine for me. Has it just been happening occasionally, or everytime you try to access those pages? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 21:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Each time. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  21:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

What type of browser are you using? ♥ _tee^eff_oh! 21:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Opera 8.51, and it worked fine this morning and all along. I tried Firefox, it's fine there. Somehow sometime today Opera isn't liked anymore. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  21:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I just experienced some problems, too. Up at the top of the recent changes page was some code or something, but more than what you had, and instead of "line 19" it was like 157 or something around there. It's gone now, but the font is all weird now. Salty^Talk! 00:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

It's all fixed here too. Font seemed OK though. (I switched to Firefox for now because it handles the lags better, but Opera pulled up Watchlist just fine about 10 minutes ago.) - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

You each just happened to load those pages while I was tweaking this new extension at the exact moment I overlooked a semicolon at the end of a line or something. — It's dot com 07:34, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The hat

What is going on with homestar's propeller cap? Whas he born with it or something? Or is it just stylish in his creepy, drippy, savvy world? I, I seriously don't know what savvy means, so i probably shouldn't have said it.-ken

Try the FAQ. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 03:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I think Thunderbird meant HRWiki:FAQ, not FAQ-- Benol, aka Coach B 02:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm pretty sure I meant the FAQ. In other words, check if The Brothers' Chaps have answered it. Then check the homestar propeller cap strategy guide. Then the propeller cap strategy guide strategy guide. Then email The Brothers' Chaps. And finally, get your mom to make you a Homestar propeller cap costume. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 02:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Location

Did anyone else notice that most of the users on the wiki live in the Midwestern United States? That's just a little fun fact. Remember, I said MOST. (I had to say that before any arguments got started.)-- Benol, aka Coach B 19:21, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think "Most" users (over 50%) of the wiki live anywhere in particular. They seem pretty scattered to me. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 19:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and, for the record, I live in Georgia.-- Benol, aka Coach B 19:46, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that on your userpage. That's totally awsome. Keep on the watch for TBC. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 19:47, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, for all I know, They could be my next door neighbors. Like, what if they don't live in Atlanta, but they live in metro Atlanta, like me. I live really close to Douglasville, but none of you guys know where that is.-- Benol, aka Coach B 19:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

They live in "Decatur, Georgia, which is just east of Atlanta". ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 19:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I live south of Atlanta-- Benol, aka Coach B 19:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

And I have seen a birds-eye view of Homestarrunner.com office! (Google Earth)... I think Bluebry 02:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You have new messages!

Do you think that we could make the You have new messages thing where it has a link so you can see the diff like Wikipedia's? like this:

-- Benol, aka Coach B 15:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Not sure. It might be an upgrade that we have not gotten yet, like somethingin mediawiki 1.6. That's what I think. — Seriously ^(Talk) 15:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Might be, but I'm tired of having new messages and not knowing who it's from or where they edited.-- Benol, aka Coach B 15:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, Benol, if you look to the recent changes, with the "You have new messages." banner still showing, scan the page for a bold change to your talk page. If you click the "diff" on that, you'll see where the message was left. Alternatively, you could check your talk page's history. — Lapper (talk) 15:34, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

You can also check your watchlist. This change is a part of version 1.6 (which has not been released in a stable form yet). — It's dot com 22:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Woah! I was right about technical stuff! That's like, I billion to one these days. — Seriously ^(Talk) 23:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

So is Wikipedia unstable as a result? They've actually changed it twice since this thread began, first to "changes" then to "last change". I've gotten tired of having to update my "new messages" prank over there. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 21:10, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, this is a little off topic, but I also think that there should be a ban on the message bar pranks on user pages. Quite frankly, they are not funny and just annoying. -AtionSong 21:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it works over here or not, and the page itself says it is very shaky, but there is a monobook script to add a link to your talk page history. Not quite what you were looking for, but here it is: Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/New message history. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] They Might be Giants

The song Experimental Film is also on on the album "The spine hits the road. --TheThingé 00:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hsr down?

has anyone else noticed that the site is down? Your Mom Gosh!

Working fine for me. — Has Matt? (talk) 13:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] need more about DJ Teh Cheat

DJ Teh Cheat is currently just a redirect to Club Technochocolate. Since it has been demonstrated that the Cheat doesn't just DJ at the club or at Bub's but also does albums ... it's way past time we had a page just for DJ Teh Cheat, the same way we have a seperate page for Bubs and The Thnikkaman. --_{NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc}  22:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squadcast

It turns out that they released a new line of podcasts called Teen Girl Squadcast that has not gotten to to the main page yet --Dacheatbot · Communicate 05:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert; it had all ready been updated. Next time, you can just add it to Template:whatsnew. — Lapper (talk) 05:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unicode fun-ness

Instead of writing More h*r.com updates... on the bottom, you could use More h★r.com updates.... Just a thought. -- Soapergem 02:56, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

A good idea, 'cept to me (and likely many others), your sample appears as "More h?r.com updates...". ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 05:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

For me, it's a box. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  05:56, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

It's tough bein' a box. (Which is what it is for me too. Like what flanks Thunderbird's sig.) --DorianGray

I got a question mark. I'm assuming it's some type of star, correct? — Has Matt? (talk) 06:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Solution: thay should rename him Homeasterisk Runner. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  06:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I dunno; I rather like the sound of Homebox. But sewiously, the asterisk should suffice. —AbdiViklas 06:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

As an extra bonus, read this whole section as if it was Homestar reading it. The good times are over! - Qermaq - (^T/C)  06:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

That's true, some see my double arrows as boxes. The only way to fix that is to upload images of the arrows to replace them. Perhaps sometime in the future. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 06:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Decemberween in March! - Qermaq - (^T/C)  06:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Now can you see it? ★

Nope, It's that box! - Qermaq - (^T/C)  06:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tbird, sorry, the PNG comes out screwy. No idea why. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  06:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll have to work on it. Then again, boxes for some isn't the end of the world. Thanks for trying though. ;) ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 06:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

You guys crack me up. I do see the star (on both cases) but having it as Homequestionmark Runner is no solution :) — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 17:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I see a nice five pointy star... too bad everyone can't, cause that would be cool!Trelawney 04:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The wiki on Frapper

For those who don't know, Frapper is a website where you can add you location to a group to see where all the people from that group lived. I have created a group for our wiki! You don't have to join, but it will be nice if you do. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 17:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, sweet, I love these things. Salty^Talk! 18:06, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

This could be interesting. Count me in. — Lapper (talk) 19:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Who counts as a Cheat or Pom? —BazookaJoe 19:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

If a Cheat or a Pom ever registered to Frapper, how will they categorize themselfs? Don't tell me you're Anti-Pomatic... :) — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 19:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm in. Jones made something just like this (not on frapper but a similar website) on the forum. See the Off-Subject topic called 'Put Yourself on the HRWiki Guestmap'. Ed smilde/talk

[edit] Inside/Outside

I'd like to make a proposition, but that might get me in trouble, so I'll make a proposal instead.

In the talk page for Under Construction, I mention that all the items mentioned in the "Real World References" section are cartoons and games. At the time I suggested changing it to "External References", but I now realize that's dumb. However, I think "Outside References" might not be too bad. After all, it usually follows "Inside References" in the articles, right? E.L. Cool said "Although the cartoons and games are not "Real World", they are published in the real world, as in the world outside of the Homestar Runner universe." This therefore suggests that anything outside the H*R universe is "real life", which doesn't quite... um... follow logic, in my opinion. "Outside References" would be more accurate.

Joshua and Lapper pointed out that it would be a massive project to affect this change on all articles. I don't know how major changes like this happen on these wiki things, if there's a vote or whatever, but if it's decided that a change would be appropriate, I think it would be easy to simply ask if anyone would volunteer to start the edits, and then split the task among those who volunteered. For example, I would start doing it on all of the Strong Bad Email articles, and when I was done with that I would see what else hadn't been changed left and offer to help with those sections.

Sorry that this isn't very eloquent, I usually don't sound this stupid. But you have to admit, I at least deserve props for making proper usage of the word "affect" instead of erroneously saying "effect". - Uglinessman 14:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

It does make sense to me. If this is accepted, then I volunteer to do TGS and Short Toons. --אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)

Please, do not feel stupid for making a serious proposal. True, it's a major change in our standards, but it still worth our time and consideration.

You quoted my reply from the Under Construction talk page, but you twisted what I said. I didn't say that anything outside the Homestar Runner universe is "real world". As you wrote, that would be unlogical. What I did say that anything published outside of the Homestar Runner universe counts as real world.

Here is an example from Under Construction: The fun fact is "Stickly Man is almost certainly a reference to the popular Flash cartoon series Xiao Xiao, where stick figures battle in elaborately-choreographed fight scenes." If you'll go to the Wikipedia link provided inside the fact you'll see that "Xiao Xiao is a Flash cartoon series by Chinese animator Zhu Zhiqiang, featuring stick-figure men performing choreographed fight scenes." Now, Mr. Zhiqiang is a man living in the real world. In the contrary, let's take a look on the Teen Girl Squad page: "Strong Bad's spur of the moment comic strip soon became a series of its own." Strong Bad is in the Homestar Runner universe, and therefor any fun fact mentioning TGS, is not real world.

Hope this answers your question, — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 15:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I still disagree with the distinction, because the human beings responsible for the entire Homestar Runner site also live in the same "real world" as Zhu Zhiqiang. The fact that, within the site's mythology, the character of Strong Bad "created" TGS doesn't change the fact that the entire site, including Strong Bad, Trogdor and PanPan, were all created by humans in the same "real world" as anything outside of H*R that gets referenced. The audio commentaries on the DVD blur and confuse this line even further, since some commentaries are voiced by characters, some by humans not speaking in characters, and some in combination. Basically, nothing I've read so far has convinced me that "Real World" is a good term for this distinction. - Uglinessman 19:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I do not support changing the name. From the perspective of TBC, anything taken from outside the universe of H*R qualifies as something found in their real world, as opposed to the world that they created. The fact that they may be referencing other works of fiction doesn't change the fact that these other works really exist. I think this is a distinction without a difference, and not really worth changing. — It's dot com 20:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I do support changing the name. I think it sounds much better, as technically the cartoons are real-life too. Everything we talk about on this wiki is in real life, and so to avoid complications it would be better to change it to outside references. It also fits perfecly with inside references. — Seriously ^(Talk) 20:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah—if this project is undertaken, I call Strong Bad emals 1-50. Or possiby even 1-75. — Seriously ^(Talk) 20:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I also do not support changing the name. As It's dot com said, anything "outside" of the Homstar Runner universe is the "real-world". Although the points behind this proposal are valid, it's simply a rather petty difference. — Lapper (talk) 20:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I think "inside and outside" might make more sense, but I don't think it's worth the trouble of changing it. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 21:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I think a vote is in order. It's the best way. — Seriously ^(Talk) 21:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually Seriously, we avoid votes as much as possible for things like this. We try to discuss things until a rough consensus is reached. Additionally, stating your opinions as if they were fact isn't a good way to win over others in a discussion.

As for the topic at hand, I agree with It's dot com, and do not support changing the name. -- Tom 02:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I too echo many previously stated sentiments, and do not support the renaming of "Real-World References" to "Outside References". Real-Word is alot clearer as to what they are than "Outside References". ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 03:35, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

How is "Real World" clearer? Real world human beings have done DVD audio commentaries (not in character), yet anything referencing these commentaries is an "Inside Reference", which by distinction under the current system is not "real world", despite the fact that the humans exist in the real world, and did their commentary as real world humans rather than within-the-H*R-universe characters. This doesn't seem very clear.

On the other hand, anything in the H*R universe is inside, anything not in the H*R universe is outside, whether it's fictional characters, historical figures, cartoons, musical recordings, etc. This distinction seems much more clear to me. - Uglinessman 11:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm with "Real World" per Thunderbird's statement. - Joshua 13:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I kind of like the idea. "Outside References"... sounds good to me. Trelawney

I see all the reasons for changing it, but I think I a actually against it. #1, it would be a pretty big hassle, but that could be resolved by using a bot, or something. #2, Real-World References sounds a bit clearer to be. I wouldn't mind if this is carried out, but it seems to be a pretty big hassle. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 20:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I do not support changing them, to me, inside has always meant something that only a homestar fan would get just the same as we say an inside-joke is one that only your friends would get. The only thing that I think makes more sense then real-world references, is allusions (The act of alluding; indirect reference, An instance of indirect reference ...according to dictionary.com) I R F 13:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

The term "Outside reference" sounds contrived to me... I prefer "Real world". However, I wouldn't be opposed to changing it, if another suggestion presents itelf, I just don't like "Outside". I don't mind "External", though. As for actually changing it, that would be simple - that's what GrapeNuts is for. phlip ^T_C 13:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geddup ALT

The hover text on the image reads {{{3}}} for some reason... - Qermaq - (^T/C)  19:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Purge el cachio. The image didn't have a caption, but it should be fixed now. --ENUSY 20:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Funny thing was, I saw the caption when it was added to the HRWiki:Featured article for 2006, week 11 but not on the Main Page itself. And I opened a different browser, even. Now it's fixed, tho. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  20:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New look

I like the new look! With the stars. And stuff. Bluebry 02:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

What stars where? --DorianGray

If you don't see the stars, you may have to do a Ctrl+F5 on the main page. — Joey (talk·edits) 02:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Ooh. There they are. They do look good. Nice work. =) Been a while since it updated, hasn't it? --DorianGray

Hooray for shiny things! *_* - Joshua 03:31, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

What if the stars weren't quite so cut off at the bottom? — It's dot com 03:33, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, I could be alone here, but looking at the main page with the stars I can't help but feel I've stepped into a nursery. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 04:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Looks somewhat like the English Wikipedia's newly redesigned main page. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 04:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with It's Dot Com. You can barely see the stars. Maybe if they were smaller and fit in the lil' box there they'd be better. They's nice, though. Salty^Talk! 04:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the cutoff looks good and doesn't hide them too much. Do you have a abnormal screen resolution? - Joshua 05:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I love it, simple as that! - Volbeat A The Cheat 04:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe if you replaced the little stars with little H*R symbol that were different colors, that'd be cool. — DBK! 05:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Ya did a nice jorb there, guyrs! :) —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 06:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I really don't like this. There's just someting...offputting about it. I kind of agree with T-Bird. - Kookykman(t)(c)(r)

I don't care for the stars either. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  12:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I enjoy this. It appears to be modeled after the new Wikipedia look they recently finished voting for. — Lapper (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Woah, I just noticed that, and it looks awesome! --Homestar Bunmaker

A few people above commented that they don't like the stars. I'd like to keep something there to add flair and set us apart from Wikipedia, but I'd like to find something everyone can be satisfied with. Thunderbird commented about feeling as though he is in a nursery, and now that I'm looking at them they do seem reminiscent of Kirby's Dreamland. Others commented that they don't like them cut off the way they are. I'm in the process of creating some stars that won't be cut off, and I should be able to post screenshots soon so we can reach a consensus about them. One person above suggested little h*r logos, but we've purposefully avoided using any officially trademarked logos in our design. Are there any other ideas for what could go there besides stars? I'd love some input here. Thanks, folks. — Joey (talk·edits) 16:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Little running Homestars would work for the red, and maybe Strong Bad heads for the blue ones. I like the design, but looking at it for a while, the stars just don't fit as well as another icon would. — Lapper (talk) 16:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it could be characters not watermarked in the boxed peaking up. -AtionSong 17:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I tried to make a mock-up of a watermarked HR head and SB head, shrunk down in the boxes where the stars are now, and I couldn't find a way to do it that looked good. Then again, I'm rather a fan of they way they look now... phlip ^T_C 17:36, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I will try a few things at home tonight and bring them back tomorrow for consideration. Also for some reason, for the first time the sign in Joey Days's sig not displaying. I only mention this here because I know he'll be checking back here again soon anyway. Is that happening to anyone else? I R F 17:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Happening to me as well. Me, I still like the stars. I didn't think of Kirby 'til just now, and I've been playing Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards all week. --DorianGray

Joey's gif is on his own site, which is down for the moment at least, it seems. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  18:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know what the two hex #'s are for the red and blue backgrounds that joey has in those boxes? I R F 19:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Well I do appreciate the redesign, I wouldn't mind the layout looking different. It's not just the stars that makes me think that it looks childish. But the stars, coupled with the light red (PINK!} and light blue colors makes it seem a bit... Childish to myself. It could just be me, but I associate light red and light blue to infancy, and little stars just kind of add to that feeling. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 19:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, I leave for one day and the whole Main Page has changed? And Bluebry got a new sig??? About the new look, I guess I like it, but I got kinda used to the old look. But I believe that if Wikipedia has updated, than we should update as well. The only things I'm really not sure about are the stars. I, personally, think it would look better without them. — Has Matt? (talk) 22:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, I hate copying from WP or any other wiki. Maybe we could come up with our own design. The stars are still cool, though. Bluebry 22:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that if the Main Page changes, The Stick and The Introduction page, and anything else with the colored watermarked backgrounds, should be done to match. And just make the stars smaller and higher and it should fix the fitting problem. Salty^Talk! 00:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

My 2¢: I think the cut-off stars look kind of hip. Nothing against fully visible ones, but the on-the-diagonal, partially-obscured ones strike me as cool. And yeah, I can see the case of those who feel the current color scheme challenges either their manhood or adulthood, though I don't particularly have a problem with it myself (the red & blue choice I suppose has to do with the prominence of those colors in H*R). —AbdiViklas 01:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Though the darker colors are coincidentally the colors of homestar, the particular hue of each of those were the old wikipedia main page colors. Now that the page is redesigned, I wouldn't mind seeing them either lined up closer to the hues of Homestar (perhaps just the top line colors or something), or totally changed for something else. As for the colors challenging anybody's manhood and/or adulthood, I feel I must clarify my above comment. Given the choice, I simply insinuated that you'd be hard pressed to find any adult and/or male who would paint their house those colors, and/or add white stars onto the walls; for any reason beyond a child's nursery. I personally don't mind that scheme in that context, but for the wiki I feel the scheme isn't a particularly bold look. If the majority likes it, I can of course live with it. I'm simply voicing my personal opinion on the design. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 02:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

TBird, are you sure it isn't just that the red and blue and the white stars and all are too American for your tastes? ;-) Heimstern Läufer 02:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

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Ahh... The PINK white and blue... The heart of a true American. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 04:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

How did Wikipedia get the 'Main Page' at the top to go away? Is that something you can do on this version of MediaWiki? Ed smilde/talk 23:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe we could do somethign like main page draft 6, draft L where the nice pictures are to the left of the heading, and each heading has a different picture. --Stux 18:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)