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Contents 1 H*R Reference In New Book 2 Edit Conflicts Noted in Summaries and Posts 3 Virus 4 Archiving Weeklies? 5 Main page image 6 "SB emails sent by HRWiki users" 7 HRwiki.com Deutschland edition 8 Memo to HRWiki power users et al. 9 Capital Sbemail titles? 10 Toons Menu 11 Update 12 RSS Feeds? 13 made new page 14 Signatures 15 More butter info, please! 16 HRWiki OS-tan revealed to the world! 17 Days of the week 18 Easter egg whereabouts 19 NEW MENU BUTTON! 20 YAAAY!

[edit] H*R Reference In New Book

I just started reading the latest from one of my favorite authors, Orson Scott Card. It's called Empire, and page 19 begins thusly:

"My head a-splode," said one of the wittier students, and everyone laughed again.

Can it be agreed upon that this is a bonafied reference? I was wondering if there's a place on this website to record this type of thing. -TDK 14:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like a direct reference to me. It would go on one of the Sightings pages, probably Other Sightings, since we don't have a Book Sightings page. Trey56 15:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Same here. I think it's a reference. TheYellowDart—(t/c)

I don't think TBC got it from this, but it's definetly a reference. -Brightstar Shiner 03:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Uh, if TBC got it from something, they would be referring to it. We're looking at a sighting here, not a reference. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Definitely a reference. Especially since they all laughed :) --NevaDie 05:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The distinction we are making is that this is not TBC referencing anything, it's something else referencing TBC, which we call a Sighting. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Conflicts Noted in Summaries and Posts

Can I just mention how un-useful some edit summaries are? I mean, it's good that you use an edit summary, but we should always try to make them meaningful.

Specifically, stuff like "Edit Conflict x2" or similar are not good edit summaries. We all get them, big deal. What is the nature of the edit you finally got on the wiki? A typo fix? A reply? An agreement/disagreement? I'm not intending to point to anyone in particular - I see these often from a lot of people.

On a tangental but related topic: what is the purpose of inticating in bold letters at the start of a Talk post that you were edit conflicted? Is there a meaningful reason to do this that I'm missing? Or is just unnecessary clutter on the page? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it was doing that automatically._LordQuackingstick 00:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the only time you need to mention being edit conflicted is if your message has changed because of what's mentioned when you got conflicted. Or something. --DorianGray

If, as a result of an edit conflict, my talk post doesn't follow the one immediately preceding it, I usually mark it as an edit conflict so people know that the post was meant to come right after a different post than it actually comes after. Otherwise, it's not really necessary. Heimstern Läufer 00:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

On the other point: Using "edit conflict" as an edit summary is not so useful. It doesn't let one know anything about the nature of your edit. Heimstern Läufer 00:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I concur with both of Heimstern's points. (even if I did the second recently) - ISTC 00:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't saying "In response to Heimstern's 00:28 post" (as I am here) be a more clear way to indicate this than mentioning the edit conflict? I mean, in this case, my post is separated from the one I want to reply to since other posts have occurred and there's no convenient way to insert this into the above without disrupting other trains of thought, not due to an edit conflict. Why not take a similar route with edit-conflicted replies, which are essentially subject to that exact same issue? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I've been saying this for a while now. Noting an edit conflict in the actual wiki text should be a last resort. Upon being edit-conflicted, one should ask, does my post still flow with the other posts? Does the fact that I got a conflict need to be pointed out? Is there any way I can rephrase what I wrote to make it fit better? Yes, rephrasing does take a little more time and effort, and occasionally someone beats you to the punch and says what you were going to say. When that happens to me, sometimes I just let the other person's post speak for me. — It's dot com 00:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Qermaq: I don't think it's even necessary to be that verbose. I often just address the person I'm replying to, like here, when I'm replying to the last post a person made. — It's dot com 00:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Fully agreed, in most cases that level of precision would not be needed. But I wanted to illustrate how simple it would be, and how much more meaning it brings to a post than noting that the edit faced a conflict. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Virus

Hey, what's with the virus pic all over da place? Is it possible that we have a haxor among us?--Marvelrulez

A template was briefly vandalized to include this image. It's fixed now. Heimstern Läufer 20:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving Weeklies?

Anyone think it's time to archive the Sketchbook, Fanstuff, and Quote of the Week? meaning, move the 2006 entries to a seperate 2006 archive? I was wondering why it hadn't been done yet. - Dr. Clash (how do you people know the exact time you posted to put it after your name, anyway?)

I agree. You put a timestamp after your name by signing with four tildes. These things: ~~~~—Shwoo 01:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I also think that sounds reasonable. Agreeing with what Shwoo said, type three tildes (~~~) to leave just your signature, and leave four tildes (~~~~) to leave your signature plus a timestamp. Incidentally, five tildes leaves a timestamp only. Trey56 01:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Done and done. Phew! I'm glad the Quotes don't need archiving, anyway... Dr. Clash 03:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

They look great — good work! Trey56 03:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Main page image

Hey I was wondering, why did you change that image on the front page? It wasn't because I put it there, was it? I thought the Bubs image was good. TheYellowDart—(t/c) 21:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The Bubs image is a spoiler (it reveals the main joke of the toon). Spoilers should not be on the main page, and so I switched it with a unique image from the toon that doesn't give anything away. — It's dot com 21:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Quit, Appledude! Oh, dot com, cool. I see. As appledude tried to forge, I thought you were mad at me there, but you guys are never mad :PTheYellowDart—(t/c) 21:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes. In the future, it might be helpful to check the edit summaries. — It's dot com 22:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "SB emails sent by HRWiki users"

I suggest the making of this page. Not just because I sent one, I was going to suggest the making of this page, either that or a sub-section on the Strong Bad emails page.--H*Bad 04:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

We're here to document the work of TBC, not blow our own horns. I am absolutely opposed to this - on principle, mind you; even if a long-time admin had suggested it, my response would be the same. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Either way, there is this article --Dacheatbot · Communicate 04:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Gah... why didn't I see that?--H*Bad 04:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HRwiki.com Deutschland edition

I probably missed something here but why is it that [1] takes me to some german Enzyklopädie? I thought we had all 3 .com/.net/.org domains? Was it hijacked? Has it always been this way? I dont remember it being this way. --Stux 02:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Naw, we never had .com.[2] And we registered .net back in 2005.[3] —BazookaJoe 03:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

We registered hrwiki.org on 03 April 2004 and hrwiki.com was registered by the German Human Resources people on 23 April 2004. We additionally registered hrwiki.net on 03 August 2005. -- Tom 03:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah! Must've been my imagination. I wonder if they get much traffic meant for this site. Thanks guys! --Stux 11:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Memo to HRWiki power users et al.

Hey guys. I've noticed that not a whole lot of people are aware of this, so I'm letting you know that I created a template called {{newsbemail}} that gives us a really big head start on the first edit of a new sbemail article. For example, when starting the article for unnatural, all you need to type is {{subst:newsbemail|166}}. So check it out, try it out in the sandbox, and improve it if you can. We'll probably make a {{newtoon}} template once people get the hang of it. Thanks, and happy editing! —BazookaJoe 15:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capital Sbemail titles?

With the release of this new New Stuff feature on the Toons menu, I wonder, are the sbemails meant to be capitalized? This image clearly spells unnatural, strong badathlon, and looking old capitalized. Is this the way they should be spelled, or is this something to ignore? Bluebry 02:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe the last time we talked about this was on Talk:Strong Bad Email#No caps. Opinions are heavily divided: I still see lowercase Lappy menu e-mail titles as non-binding aesthetics; some would rather keep article case based on how the first official released title looks. Maybe we should move this thread to Talk:Strong Bad Email if you wish to talk about it further. —BazookaJoe 02:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

One way or the other, we're gonna have to have piped links somewhere. Since the Strong Bad Email menu can and does have some capital letters, I maintain that we should continue using it as our official capitalization. — It's dot com 05:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I much prefer them lowercase. I can't explain why, except that I feel it looks god-awful in uppercase. That's just my opinion, though. --DorianGray

Dorian, I have to simply state that regardless of your feelings on what the aesthetics are, whatever is presented in the sbemail menu should be considered canon. They can feel free to also present them in other styles elsewhere, but as we are documenting the sbemails, we should use those titles. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  05:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. I'm sure redirects wouldn't be that big of a deal however, if that's an option. — Lapper (talk) 22:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Note: Any further discussion on this topic should take place in Talk:Strong Bad Email#Capitalizing titles.

[edit] Toons Menu

There's a new thing called "New Stuff" on the Toons Menu. --205.206.196.178 04:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, see New Stuff and H*R.com updates 2007#Monday, February 12, 2007 for details. -- Tom 04:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update

• New Quote of the week, weekly fanstuff, and sketchbook. --205.206.196.178 15:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RSS Feeds?

Could an RSS Feed be made of the Recent Updates section - or is that not possible? 86.132.122.135 12:37, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

If you mean an RSS feed of Recent Changes, that's already available. If you're talking about an RSS feed of the H*R.com site updates, that's also available. — Lapper (talk) 14:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] made new page

Hi guys! Me, hrfreak again! If you want to see my new page, just type in, Homestarrunner Bio, or just click on the hilighted word entitled, "Homestarrunner Bio". Enjoy it! although, I might be workin' on it later! see ya! Hrfreak

Hey there, hrfreak. Your enthusiasm is appreciated, but we already have that information on the page about Homestar Runner. Cheers. — It's dot com 17:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Signatures

Hi, I'm new to HR Wiki. I am dying to know how you guys get icons in your signatures. Can anyone do it, or just admin-type guys? --NevaDie 05:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Anyone can do it — there are instructions at Help:Signature. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page. Trey56 05:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More butter info, please!

Uh, what exactly is homestar runner wiki? (Obviously, I'm a Star Wars geek) Darth Plagueis The Wise Know the power of the Dark Side

Take a look at this page. That has just about everything (I think). Happy wiki-ing! - The Joe^(Talk) 01:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki OS-tan revealed to the world!

As per kai lyn's talk page, I have created a cute little drawing of an OS-tan representing HRWiki! This is just for fun to see what people think of it, but I thought if Wikipedia got to have one, we should too! The full explanation of her appearance is on the afformentioned talk page, but for those of you who are too lazy to go there, I'll explain it now (pardon the copy/paste job).

Okay here, let me explain. First, on the right arm I accidentally used a marker that was too thick before I realized that I had a smaller one to use. My mistake. :-( The logo on her bottom braid is, very small, H*R and the stars were for just what Kai lyn said, HomeSTAR Runner. Three Homestar faces are on her outfit, the loop braid and the boots; the body of the boots represents Strong Bad and she's wearing a Homestar shirt. Her hair and ribbons are the main colors of the HRWiki site, blue and white. The skirt represents bees, which the HRWiki users act a lot like (working together for a common goal, honey or info about H*R, and delivering a quick sting to trolls). I just did whatever for her arms. The utility belt has a badge that says "IP", for her to use when she's not logged in, an easter egg, and a book of references. She also holds a notebook with all of HRWiki's articles in it. The hairstyle doesn't really apply to anything, I just made it up and have used it on three characters now. Oh yes, and please pardon the fact that I can't draw hands.

-Brightstar Shiner 22:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Days of the week

I just had an idea: What if we reveal the days of the week along with the release dates? I mean, it might just serve some kind of purpose. --Jnelson09 23:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

What, you mean like this? — It's dot com 23:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

You probably mean on Template:whatsnew, right? Well, here's what it would look like. I don't think it looks too bad... —BazookaJoe 23:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I honestly don't see the point. If you want to know the day of the week, you can use a calender. How would it come in handy? - The Joe^(Talk) 23:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

One thought: sbemail updates are normally Monday, weeklies on Thursday. Exceptions are notable. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, in the DVD commentary for anything, Strong Bad says he was going to release #78 on a Wednesday, but Homestar beat him to it on ____. Having looked that up, it was a Monday. If we had the weekdays here, it would have saved me some time. --Jnelson09 03:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Ohhhh! You don't mean on the main page or the updates page, you mean on the toon articles themselves! Hmm... — It's dot com 03:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I think that would be handy... but a lot of work. But I'm willing to do it. :-) --TheYellowDart—(t/c) 04:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Adding it to every page would be reasonably simple to automate... it probably wouldn't be worth the effort to go through and do it by hand, but using a bot to do it would be relatively simple. (The hard part would probably be trying to find the keys to GrapeNuts... I checked under the sofa, but they weren't there...) phlip ^T_C 04:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Wait. How could GrapeNuts do that? I thought the bot could only replace words with other words. How could you make it calculate dates like that? --TheYellowDart—(t/c) 04:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

It's just a script written in Python... it would be possible to get it to recognise the '''Date:''' at the top of the page, parse the rest of the line as a date and calculate the day of the week from that. It'd only be a few lines of code to do the transformation, plus whatever the framework needs to connect and such. phlip ^T_C 05:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Well.... this looks like a job for..... a... system operator. That's you.  ;-) --TheYellowDart—(t/c) 05:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

You know what, I'm gonna get started on this. Maybe make a project page: HRWiki:Days of the week --Jnelson09 20:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Easter egg whereabouts

In which sbemail is the Easter egg of a CD-comprised Homestar running through the field to the tune of the intro? kai lyn 17:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe that it's isp. - The Joe^(Talk) 17:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

isp, unless I'm mistaken. ^Kah_teh 17:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! kai lyn 20:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

...OK, that's weird. What happened to The Joe's comment before? When I replied there was only your question there, but looking at the history, it seems that he(?) posted before me? ^Kah_teh 18:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

You may have edited an old version of the page and written over his comment accidentally. Trey56 18:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. ^Kah_teh 19:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NEW MENU BUTTON!

there is a podcast button to add to the main page~! view the sb email page

The podcast has been around for over a year... it's not exactly "new"... phlip ^T_C 02:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I think he means on the navbar.

HOLY CRAP!! New navbar button. I gotta find something to note this at. Bye! --TheYellowDart—(t/c) 03:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, my mistake... I guess I should have actually, y'know, checked first... I just figured he meant the "What's New" button, where it's been for the past year... phlip ^T_C 03:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I guess it's time to update the ol' grease monkey script, eh? --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 11:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YAAAY!

1-Up is the featured article!! MY FAVORITE CHARACTER! WOO HOO! --Homestar tiger 16:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)