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[edit] No Turning Back Now

Do you guys think that there are enough toons to warrant a "Toons without Back Buttons" page? It's become a recent trend with TBC lately. - Catjaz63 20:36, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, probably. Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 20:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Additional Stuff without the back button:
Telebision Toons Menu
Email the chair
Lappynapped!
I think there's enough. - Catjaz63 21:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
So, it looks like this idea is good enough to warrant its own. However, what's the best name for the page without being too long? There are longer page names than "Toons Without Back Buttons", but I feel like that's too long. Anyone got any ideas? - Catjaz63 17:15, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't think you can get it any shorter than that, unless you're willing to settle for a really informal name like "Backless Toons", or something that's difficult to understand like "Orphaned Endings". And maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look all that long the way it is, either. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 21:38, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
"Toons Without Back Buttons" seems fine to me. It's clear, concise, and shorter than many other names of pages we have on this wiki. — DeFender1031*Talk 22:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
How about, "No Back Button Toons" or "Back Button Exclusions"? ColdReactive 22:45, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

Here are the official translations for some of The Cheat's and Pom Pom's lines in SBCG4AP:

How should we cover them? RickTommy (edits) 09:43, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I think the first question to ask is "SHOULD we cover them". Followed up, depending on the answer, by "how". Personally, I'm on the fence about the former. — DeFender1031*Talk 08:58, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Importance of edit summaries

discussion 1; discussion 2

If edit summaries are for page histories first and Recent Changes a distant second, what about user contribution pages? RickTommy (edits) 03:53, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

That would be third, so distant from first and second you can barely see it. — It's dot com 04:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
But can Original Bubs see it? - Catjaz63 05:13, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Complaints about the "Log in / create account" page

Please, give us back the old "Log in / create account" page, so we will have the chance to register an user-name on HRWiki.org! We swear, we should certainly not be mean to you at all! We want to be kind-hearted, so we will create an account on an EASY way! Thank you! :'( --178.174.243.198 19:14, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

This question has already been answered in an above discussion. Account Creation? - Catjaz63 19:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Unnecessary Segmentation

So, Broncotroll has been adding a new 'section' to certain articles that separates Poker Night at the Inventory references to 'Out-of-Universe'. Personally, I don't believe that PK&tI references should be segregated, but rather just considered normal and added in the normal 'Appearances' and references to it in articles should not be removed. - Catjaz63 18:00, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I can understand what you mean about the segmentation, but having references to Strong Bad "going to the inventory" definitely merited deletion. Strong Bad is an oft-visited article and it should not have passing references to out-of-universe games no one bought. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 21:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Also, I mostly segmented the PNATI references when having them in the text of the article would be confusing or break the fourth wall. For example, I have no idea who "Heavy" is, and mentioning him as if he's an hr character and not some crossover guy is misleading. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 21:59, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Just unsegmented it in places where it was streamlined into appearances. But I think the segment should stay when foreign characters or references are involved. Also, I have a precedent. I got the particular wording from Explosions--Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 22:05, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I still disagree and find it completely irrational to segregate just bullet points because they make references to characters outside of the Homestar Runner universe. You shouldn't remove or segregate information on articles just because you don't understand it.
Also, you saying 'passing references to out-of-universe games no one bought.' is incredibly ignorant. - Catjaz63 23:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Just because you say it in bold doesn't make it true, it just makes you like a supercilious ***. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 00:08, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
You call me supercilious when you just violated an HRWiki policy by swearing in a situation where it does not add to the conversation and is not a quote. .
Also, you keep referring to some 'precedent', yet you never link to it. - Catjaz63 00:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I'm going to try to steer this conversation from a never-ending slapfights of ad hominem into a conversation again. The big question I ask with this decision is, Are there enough examples of out-of-universe bullets to warrant a new section on every page that PK&TI is mentioned? Since it's the only thing that's really big that isn't just a small short that is out of universe and features a Homestar Runner character, there is almost no reason that it should warrant its own section and not be incorporated into the HRWiki like everything else is. It's such a small game that it can be easily put into articles seamlessly and doesn't need this silly column just for it. If you don't understand the bullet point, you could click on the game title and learn about it and who 'The Heavy' is in the game. These changes are not needed and should all be reverted for adding nothing to the content but being intrusive into the natural flow of articles. - Catjaz63 00:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Edit Conflict: Broncotroll, The "precedent" you refer to as "proof" that we do things this way was originally added by... wait for it... you! This sectioning off has never been how we do things. In addition, your recent comment using profanity was uncalled for, and inappropriate. Please do not do it again. — DeFender1031*Talk 00:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
On the topic of whether we should be separating references like this, the answer is no. They are references made by TBC in works in which TBC were directly involved made by HR characters. Oh, and for the record, if we're going to start separating every reference by what universe it's in, every page is going to have like four or five sections. I agree with Catjaz. It breaks up the flow of pages and gives undue attention to the "out-of-universe" entries. In essence, separating them makes them stand out more, and gives them MORE weight, not less. — DeFender1031*Talk 01:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I'll defer. You're right. I totally didn't remember making that edit. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 01:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. The one thing I do agree with you on though is the removal of the line that essentially said "Strong bad likes to spend his free time when he's not checking email jumping out of the HR universe and playing poker in a multi-universe crossover" from his character bio. Stuff like that doesn't really belong. — DeFender1031*Talk 01:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you sir. And I'll try to stop cussing. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 02:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

[edit] A Small Idea

This is an odd idea, but would it be possible to embed Strong Bad's latest tweet on the front page? I feel like there's a lot of wasted space under the 'Browse the Knowledge Base' section that could be used for an embedded tweet or something else. - Catjaz63 00:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Whoa, great idea! That would actually make the main page a lot livelier. I would recommend putting it in a template and updating that. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 10:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Idea I like! +1! How about calling the template {{latesttweet}}? It'd have to be a the sysop who'd add the template to the main page in the end. --Stux 12:30, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't think that the HRWiki can support embedded tweets, however - Catjaz63 06:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Well, not literally, but I meant just copying the tweet's contents into a template (or any other kind of page), and then embedding that page on the main page, similar to the list of updates. We don't need to implement a live Twitter feed or anything complicated requiring an API like that. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 19:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Oh, we could do that definitely! The only thing we need now is a sysop. But the question is, are sysops Legendary Legends or Mysterious Myths? Nobody's ever seen one in the last 86 minutes! - Catjaz63 20:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
I like this idea. Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 01:07, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
So, what do you think, sysops? Should we do this? Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 05:05, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

[edit] An idea (again)

It would be a good idea to make a page with a list of all of the title cards in it (similar to the Opening Credits page)? Like this one in I Killed Pom Pom or A Decemberween Miracle Mackerel. Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 17:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Do we not have a page like that already? I'm surprised... Well, if we don't, I'd recommend that it be named Title Cards, have a description explaining what a title card is, elaborating that only the big ones and holiday ones really ever have them, and then a gallery of all the title cards that ever happened in chronological order, with perhaps a see also pointing to Irregular Loading Screens, and Stockton running a slant to break through the defense. Got it? Annnnnd.... BREAK! — DeFender1031*Talk 21:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Good jorb. Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 23:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

[edit] H*R.com updates?

Back when TBC's activities were mostly contained within homestarrunner.com, these page titles made sense. But with updates happening on twitter, YouTube exclusives, and with off-side updates sadly being more common than on it, should these pages be changed to a more neutral title to reflect these off-site updates more accurately? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 03:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I feel like "H*R.com" is more representative of the Homestar Runner body of work rather than the website itself, but I can agree that it would be better to change it to "H*R Updates" possibly. - Catjaz63 03:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Incidentally, "H*R.com" links to Homestar Runner (body of work) instead of homestarrunner.com. If there is a supporting consensus for this, I've posted how updates to Homestar Runner as a whole could be covered on the main page in the sandbox. That'sBupkis! 15:55, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
I like it, especially because the Strong Bad twitter page would dominate the main page's update list if each tweet were given as much weight as a site update. It sounds like simply changing the titles from "H*R.com" to "H*R" will reflect the recent paradigm shift quite nicely. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 20:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm on board, I'm not bored! — DeFender1031*Talk 20:41, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Uhh... this is awkward.

Anyone else think it's weird that the videos of the day (or whenever) on this exact page are christmas things and yet it's not Halloween yet? 98.159.29.164 13:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

That's left over from last year, I think. It just hasn't been updated. Although, this wiki has a Halloween design, so that might show Halloween toons by then. But hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. That'sBupkis! 14:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Incidentally, given how unlikely it is for a clock to be perfectly calibrated, a stopped clock is right MORE often than a working one, a working one likely never being exactly right. It's one of those weird cases where a decent approximation all the time is more useful than an exact number occasionally. — DeFender1031*Talk 14:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Now that is almost halloween, I hate it when It was Decemberween in October. Please change the Decemberween toons in "Featured content of the day (or whenever)" to Halloween toons! Also, You need change the logo to make it look Halloweenistic! --76.177.4.241 17:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah. Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 22:27, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Decemberween in January. I hate it. Turn the "Featured content of the day (or whenever)" thing back to normal! --76.177.4.241 19:38, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Actually, according to the bottom of the Main Page, it hasn't been updated since 2013 --GetSchwifty 06:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
That figure doesn't include stuff included from elsewhere, such as templates and such, which this stuff is. Don't get me wrong, that stuff hasn't been changed in a while, but the "last modified" date has no connection to it. — DeFender1031*Talk 10:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Halloween logo

On the computer, everything looks set for Halloween: the background, the font color, Homestar; everything looks great. On mobile browsing, the Halloween background with the moon and the trees is present, but Homestar in the top-left corner has not changed. What's up? The Knights Who Say Ni 07:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I can think of several possibilities: 1. browser cache 2. lack of flash and reverting to the png logo 3. mobile browsing is terrible and does weird things — DeFender1031*Talk 10:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
It's the lack of Flash. There's a Halloween version of our gif logo; I've set it to fall back to that. — It's dot com 17:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I figured that's what it was. Is that a common problem among mobile devices? The Knights Who Say Ni 20:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not a problem so much as a deliberate decision not to support Flash anymore. — It's dot com 22:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Mobile

I think this wiki should have a mobile view, for those who are smartphone or tablet users. It will make it easier for them. Just a suggestion --2.223.106.226 13:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that's something we've had on the back burner for a while now. Someday! — It's dot com 18:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


[edit] HELP ME!

I want to create an account so badly, but there is no "sign up option" Where is it?!

To create an account, email admin@hrwiki.org and tell them what username you would like, and they will create your account and get back to you. — DeFender1031*Talk 11:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Something wanna talk to you about

Now that halloween is over, Please change the Halloween toons in "Featured content of the day (or whenever)" to back to normal! Also, You need change the logo back! --76.177.4.241 03:37, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Eh, the Halloween costumes toon was released barely over a week ago. I'll switch it to Thanksgiving for sure by next week. — It's dot com 21:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Yeah. --76.177.4.241 04:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

[edit] The running time standard wording

When listing the official time (usually when it's wrong), it is more factual to use (actual) or (TV Time Toons Menu)? Or should you only use the latter when the menu is correct? - Catjaz63 23:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

The rest of this discussion has been moved to HRWiki talk:Standards → Running time standard wording

[edit] Watch:youtube option?

This wiki is great, but it's hard to find the youtube videos from here, so along with the normal wtahc button (that takes you to the flash page) we could add a button that takes you to the youtube page, for people that don't have flash. Anyone else for this? Noneoftheaboveorbelow (Talk | contribs) 18:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC) (left unsigned)

You mean like this? Lots of them already have it. The Knights Who Say Ni 04:44, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I assume he means the buttons at the top, not the links at the bottom. It's something that could be implemented maybe by one person, but it's definitely not a priority that the HRWiki should be trying to implement. - Catjaz63 04:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I've tried it here but it doesn't really work. Noneoftheaboveorbelow 19:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I don't think there's currently a pressing need to do this. If they start ever start updating semi-regularly again—or if we ever rebuild the wiki in a more mobile-friendly format—then maybe we could consider it then. — It's dot com 01:08, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

[edit] A (Maybe) Good Idea

Now that Homestar is updating more, we should bring back the featured article of the week. BUT... my idea was to have something like this, so it would automatically re-do a featured article that already exists. No one would have to edit anything. Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 04:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

That's a good idea. :) --76.177.4.241 20:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
How 'bout it? How 'bout it, Steve? Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 01:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Yesh. --76.177.9.12 18:23, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Featured articles were a great addition to the main page, and I was sad to see it go. But this would be convenient, because it would only require one edit, without all the voting and updating and selecting, but with the same results. It would be even easier than the "content of the day" thing, because that still needs to be updated sometimes. What does everyone else think? Hello? Anyone? Main-page-editing-type-guy? Gfdgsgxgzdrc (Talk|Cont) 05:00, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Background

Somebody please explain why the background still has the Christmas theme but everything else is normal. 166.137.240.107 14:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, it is winter. - Catjaz63 15:06, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh. 166.137.240.107 16:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Not quite everything else is normal; try clicking on Homestar. The Knights Who Say Ni 18:49, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Catjaz: no, the background is usually changed back by now.
And The Knights Who Say Ni: we should clarify that it's only different if you have Flash enabled. I have it disabled by default due to all the issues it's been having, so I just see the gif logo instead. Of course, it is possible to convert the Flash logo to HTML5, but I imagine it's not that straightforward to work with. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 19:51, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
It's actually not usually changed back by now. — It's dot com 22:18, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Huh. I guess I didn't remember or notice that. Okay, so we wait until February and I encourage myself to commence foal ingestion immediately. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 23:38, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Please change the logo and the everything else area back to normal. --76.177.4.241 16:43, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
We leave winter up through January. — It's dot com 16:48, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Please bring back the featured article of the week, Fix and turn the featured content of the day thingy back to normal, or both! --76.177.4.241 01:44, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Runner is down

Is homestarrunner.com down for everyone or just me? Is it the end of the site? Please reply. --76.177.4.241 20:54, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

It's just you. Seriously. — DeFender1031*Talk 20:56, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
"It's not just you! http://homestarrunner.com looks down from here."
Looks like anony is right. Even though you're right though, this isn't the end of the site. Probably just another hiccup in the server host; it'll be up soon most likely. - Catjaz63 21:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Partial (where only certain IPs aren't able to connect) and full site outages aren't unheard of. In fact they happen on occasion and typically resolve themselves after a few hours. You'll find several examples on this talk page's archived history, even. --Stux 21:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
How odd. Downforeveryone is telling me it's up (as is my own direct viewing of the site). — DeFender1031*Talk 21:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summary Glitch

I don't know if this is affecting just me, but this is the third time I've run into a glitch when writing edit summaries. I'll write out a complete thought and then, when I post it, the summary has a lot of words missing. I'm using Chrome, which might have something to do with it, but it's becoming increasingly clear that I can't find out exactly what was sent to the server.

It seems to be more likely to happen when I go to another page and then hit the back button, but the specifics are really unclear and I can't replicate it (nor would I purposely go to another page, that seems to happen by mistake too).

So here is what happened today: I typed out part of the summary, then hit a wrong key and was sent to the article's regular (non-editing) page. The forward arrow in the browser was inactive, so it couldn't have been the backspace key, and the edit never happened, so it couldn't have been Enter.

Anyway, I hit the back button to return to the edit page, and Chrome repopulated the edit summary (as it is known to do). I finished writing the summary and saved the changes. But the website says that the edit summary is

"undid revision 755588; actually that"

while what I actually typed (thanks again to Chrome repopulating the summary when I went back to the edit page a third time) was

aglitch2.png

(in case that ever gets removed, I typed "undid revision 755588; actually i gotta agree here, i always thought that's what he was doing")

It could be that the server received an earlier version of what I was typing. But if Chrome had saved the final version at least enough for it to show up when I go back to the edit page, why didn't it post that to the server? And if it did post correctly to the server, then is there an issue on the back end of the wiki?

If anyone else has encountered this issue or knows the cause/solution, please don't hesitate to speak up. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 16:31, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Featured content

Decemberween is no longer upon us, and yet our "Featured content of the day (or whenever)" section is still replete with wintertime holiday toons. Maybe it's time for an update?

Yeah, I been's noticing that too. I don't know who controls that exactly, but I kinda agree-- It's a little strange to have D'ween toons up there in late March. Hey, we oughta change it to the dot com's April Fool's Day jokes! Anybody? Guy who edits the main page?
Ooh, speakin' o' which, who else is excited about the new April Fool's toon they're bound to release soon?? I can hardly freakin' wait! SRMX12 (talk/cont) 04:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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