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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now?  '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now?  '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Revision as of 15:59, 8 June 2005

The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.


New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

boring (really)

Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

  • Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.
  • Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I think this is surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

  • Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

  • Turbo-decline Do I even have to say anything? Rudeboy87 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong decline I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. Crystallina 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • here's a three letter word that I know... DECLINE!!!!!!!!! Pac-man 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. Donny vs Universe
  • And prepare to experience the fury of... the Decline. When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the Theme Song Video in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On. Ummm, decline. It's obviously a Steely Dan reference! -- tomstiff 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind! It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say DECLINE. --SBEmail22 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Here's something: SECOND WITH EVERYBODY. Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. silverwing99 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- tomstiff 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Possible, but... nah. — It's dot com 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Just delete this waste of html now! this is just stupid. -- Tony Stony 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

«Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

  • Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

  • Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House that Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

old comics

Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

  • I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so No Comment right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so Accept. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral to the first part, accept to the second Donny vs Universe
  • I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Domenico. Accept Woodstock -- tomstiff 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline first, accept second. This is easy. --ISlayedTheKerrek 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second first, second second. — It's dot com 17:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second - aaronak 11:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline first, accept second. Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline on the comma for reasons stated above, accept Woodstock. Domenico de Comma, does this guy think we're idiots?The Pardack
    • Second Why are we still discussing the second part? Put the Woodstock reference in! —Shawn81 15:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

secret recipes

The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

  • Now the first one is an obvious Accept, because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to Decline, because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --ISlayedTheKerrek 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the Second part of that fact as well... --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. Crystallina 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Upset_Your_Balance 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.It's dot com 17:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.Shawn81 15:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

rock opera


The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

  • So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh! Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! Cheatachu72 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Today is all right for decline! I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --Upset_Your_Balance 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Diggity...diggity...DECLINE. There's no proof here. Crystallina 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Secondaded. What's the use anywho? James Craven 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
  • Decline. Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- tomstiff 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean DECLINEPac-man 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline that crap. Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- aaronak 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Donny vs Universe


Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

  • Decline If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. The Pardack
    • I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
      • Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
  • Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid! Cheatachu72 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. Rudeboy87 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Seconding a Decline pun It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -MK and/or BurnBox 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. GG Crono 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion Seconds! --Upset_Your_Balance 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. Crystallina 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --Eytanz 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE! 'Nuff said. James Craven 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
    • Second, if that's possible. - aaronak 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  •, Imma gonna give this 1 a SUPER DECLINE!!!Pac-man 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

3 Times Halloween Funjob

3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

  • Decline. If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- Tony Stony 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? Decline The Pardack
  • wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.DeclinePac-man 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. --BazookaJoe 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING... Need I say more? Cheatachu72 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Seconded. The less trival the better. Baleete and Burninate! James Craven 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
    • Second --mibluvr13 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE! This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.Maestro 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Senorial Day

Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

  • Yes, it is. Accept - Tony Stony 19:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. My thoughts exactly, Tony. --VolatileChemical 19:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'd. Yep - same shrub alright. Crystallina 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.It's dot com 20:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Ah, a good fun fact for once. --mibluvr13 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You'll save like an ACCEPT, or my name ain't Cheatachu72! Yeah, sure. Cheatachu72 23:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Go for it. --BazookaJoe 01:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Just get rid of the "In Senorial Day" bit at the start when it's added to the page. phlip TC 05:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Seconded because I have seen it firsthanded. James Craven 3:19 AM EDT June 6 2005.
  • Weak accept Fairly obvious to me but I guess other peoples might not get the referance right away. The Pardack
    • I didnt get it the first time I watched it so... --Tony Stony 20:36, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -- tomstiff 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

  • Decline. I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — It's dot com 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. mibluvr13 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. Crystallina 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE! No. Cheatachu72 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- Tony Stony 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, but I love you anyway. --BazookaJoe 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

  • Decline. I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --Beatfox 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Plunk your magic twanger, froggy! -- tomstiff 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DeclineToo much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from Majora's Mask. The Pardack
    • Second. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. James Craven 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
  • Declizziefizzine I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from Majora's Mask. Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? Cheatachu72 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- Tony Stony 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

  • Accept I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- tomstiff 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- tomstiff 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Second With Modification: Should read "The reference is taken - loosely - from the Disney cartoon series Kim Possible, in which one of the villians is named Señor Señor, Senior." James Craven 1:36 PM EDT June 6 2005.
            • I, uh, hope you're talking about my Fun Fact title and not the Fact itself. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
              • It's the fact, Jack! James Craven 7:48 PM EDT JUne 6 2005.
  • Accept. I think it's funny, and it's true. — It's dot com 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -GG Crono
  • Vera Weak Decline. Interesting, but ... nah. -- tomstiff 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accepted! Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --MrsCommanderson 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept as a remark.TK600 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak accept its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- Tony Stony 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Prooty good. Donny vs Universe
  • Acceptable in my sight. --Beatfox 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. Ramrod 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept you Helvetica. Cheatachu72 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --Eytanz 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I don't know about you guys, but I personally love this fact. --mibluvr13 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I don't see what's so fun about this particular fact, if indeed that's what it is.--Big Dog 22:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

  • Accept For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what thatkidsam says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Ehhh.. I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — InterruptorJones 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —Shawn81 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material phlip TC 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? ACCEPT -- Tony Stony 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --AnarchyBalsac
    • Accept If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? Donny vs Universe
    • What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, I STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --AnarchyBalsac
      • Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? Donny vs Universe
  • Accept But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? The Pardack
  • Decline. Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in garage sale refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --Eytanz 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --rsl12 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --mibluvr13 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--Big Dog 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Segundo - aaronak 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Frolic or Bet?

When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

  • Accept. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second phlip TC 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in kind of cool - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So accept Donny vs Universe
    • Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is no difference between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote Gamble. But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". Donny vs Universe
  • Three things here: First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant talk page. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, like we did here in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — It's dot com 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Gamble. Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- tomstiff 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • "Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --No Smorking 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Wow, good point! --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second NoSmorking Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! Cheatachu72 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- Tony Stony 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- tomstiff 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • This is ridiculous. Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. Aurora the Homestar Coder 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Just a second. - aaronak 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

little animal

Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

  • Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip TC 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
  • Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • 9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

  • User:Homestar_Coder has vowed in Talk:guitar to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
  • The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and should be kept out.
  • What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
    • In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. Aurora the Homestar Coder 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- tomstiff 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- tomstiff 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept! Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. Ookelaylay 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so Revise (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. phlip TC 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, revise I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. Ookelaylay 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- tomstiff 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say revise as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- Tony Stony 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. Donny vs Universe
  • DECLINE It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
  • Decline There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--Big Dog 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. Decline, belindas Dasrik 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"? Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - aaronak 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

time capsule


Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

  • "Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!" Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --MrsCommanderson 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accepted, yo! - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes do seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - SaikoRoxi 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
  • ACCEPT! Good find! -- Tony Stony 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
  • Accept- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! Ramrod 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- Lappy 486 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Smoky is a valid spelling. Crystallina 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --Upset_Your_Balance 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
  • I have been proven right. Very good observation. Accepting. -MK and/or BurnBox 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better! Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' ACCEPT, MAN! JEEZ! Cheatachu72 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with flashback. Wow. It's true. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I hate to do this since it's true, but Decline. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - Song from 60s 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
    • It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- tomstiff 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept,dude! Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! Ookelaylay 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Maestro accepts this.I see that you're right.Maestro 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Seconded. Didn't notice until I saw it. James Craven 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
    • Second --mibluvr13 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

  • Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out. I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. Cheatachu72 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • It tastes like a #1 DECLINE! --Upset_Your_Balance 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- Lappy 486 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • It's obvious, but DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here. -MK and/or BurnBox 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. GG Crono
  • Accept Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--Because, It's Midnite
  • No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} Cheatachu72 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So Accept. - Song from 60s 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE!! Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
  • DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!Pac-man 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — It's dot com 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • TOTAL DECLINE. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! Maestro Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!!Maestro 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DeclineNo it looks more like a cold pill The Pardack
    • secondation Which is exactly why I (feebly) created the Pills Inside jokes page. EdgeKing 21:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

  • D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

long pants

No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

  • Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to decline this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- Tony Stony 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I Accept. --Hamrodrunner 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
    • No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.Neutral Donny vs Universe
  • I'm Neautral on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. Ramrod 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • What's so terrible about it? Accept --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Evwrybody, la dee decline-o! And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. Cheatachu72 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Very Weak Neutral It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- tomstiff 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to But, I think this needs to be revised because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --BazookaJoe 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I think not! No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- Lappy 486 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DO OVER! You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is's theme song. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --ISlayedTheKerrek 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
    • So totally Second Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- Lappy 486 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
    • I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner poster which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Accept. No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--rsl12 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Accept. It seems rather obvious to me. GG Crono
  • YOU GOT A DECLINE! Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
    • How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. Aurora the Homestar Coder 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
    • And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.It's dot com 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Declined, Burninated and Baleeted! James Craven 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

Main Page 22

ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

  • That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline! I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email the show in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. Cheatachu72 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's Decline for you The Pardack
  • Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get DECLINE'D... just ask The Cheat! --Upset_Your_Balance 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge. I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---the spludge 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN -MK and/or BurnBox 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Choke on your DECLINE! - Nah, sorry. - SaikoRoxi 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
    • Seconded for obvious reasons. James Craven 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
  • AN ACTUAL ACCEPT. I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the virus e-mail? Tom H 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -- tomstiff 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) PAY PLUS!

Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
    • Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
      • What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
        • By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
          • Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
  • Revise and accept. Make it like this:
The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
  • Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
    • Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
  • Acceptalized.
  • Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
  • Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
    • Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
    • Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
      • Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
  • Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

monster truck

Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Luau


In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

  • Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

do over

Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

  • Accept seems good to me. TK600 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept -- Tony Stony 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Seconded. 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. James Craven 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
  • Accept - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - aaronak 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

  • Accept Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an inside joke, or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --phlip 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second I was thinking the same thing. --BazookaJoe 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Very strong decline I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- Tony Stony 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Anydeclineway... Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. Cheatachu72 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Obvious Declining with a funny pun. It's a word I use. And it's common. -MK and/or BurnBox 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--Big Dog 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second, except for the part about Chewbacca.

George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

  • SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it. EDY-innit 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline the incorrectity (I.M.O.) EDY-innit 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! Accept. Strongly. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I did check the sisters page before I put this fact on the do over page. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
    • Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! I didn't mean to do that!" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 possible reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. EDY-innit 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
      • You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- tomstiff 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
          • Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
            • So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- tomstiff 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
            • If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! EDY-innit 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --rsl12 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, Decline -- Tony Stony 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's true, the stnank from sisters was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --Upset_Your_Balance 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Accept. Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --Beatfox 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline for exactly the same reason. --phlip 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see... - aaronak 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

  • Rewrite "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." Rudeboy87 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Outright Decline. Save it for when we get an actual Deleted. — It's dot com 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- tomstiff 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --phlip 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Brraaap! Declinated. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
  • Decline Y'all have said it all -- Tony Stonytalk
  • Great jorb, Decline. As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --Homsar999ß 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
  • Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined. It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the DELETED page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --Upset_Your_Balance 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. The Pardack
  • Rewrite. I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a 
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.

TK600 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Second. I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
  • Decline Both - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- Joshua 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second «Rob» 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • A type of Decline Second. --user: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Done Over It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. EDY-innit 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait. If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline'd. It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. SaikoRoxi>User talk:SaikoRoxi -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
  • I decline thee! *whack* -- Kiwi 17:00, 24 May 2005
  • Big-Time Decline. Needs to be baleeted! James Craven 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
  • weak accept Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)EdgeKing 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
  • Decline Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --mibluvr13dígame 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

  • Accept, yeah ok. makes sense to me Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? Decline-- Tony Stonytalk
  • Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept first but Decline second The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
    • Let's just leave it at Declined. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.Kyushu
  • Decline I use "alright" all the time. -- Joshua 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Apparently, alright is alright. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- tomstiff 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I may dislike the word alright, all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — It's dot com 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declime. Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
    • Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of tmesis, and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
      • Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
        • It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
  • Decline. Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --Upset_Your_Balance 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.TK600 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - Song from 60s 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Bor-ing. «Rob» 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DeclinitionUm...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING Because, It's Midnite
  • "Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. Maestro 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

kind of cool

Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

  • Vera Weak Accept. It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- tomstiff 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

cheat talk

To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

  • Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED! I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >the Cheat (sometimes, at least)Cheatachu72 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --Jay (Talk) 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. «Rob» 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --Jay (Talk) 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept A mistake on SB's part. --user: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Read the HR faq!! TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. DECLINE!! Donny vs Universe
    • That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --Jay (Talk) 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on mibluvr13 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --upset_your_balance 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Repeal the Accept and Decline. I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". DECLINED --Tony Stony 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- tomstiff 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! Donny vs Universe
  • ACCEPT -- Joshua
  • Decline! I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? Fetus!
  • I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. Second for all da declines Cheatachu72 [only one vote per customer]
  • My bad. Cheatachu72
  • Accept'd! not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --kerrek slaya 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. The Pardack
    • But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --Tony Stonytalk
    • At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- tomstiff 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --AnarchyBalsac
  • I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- SaikoRoxi 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
    • On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- SaikoRoxi 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
        • So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so Decline.TK600 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. Bosch is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

Rewrite: The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company.

  • ALMOST Accept Edited to a full accept. Yay! Donny vs Universe
    • It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
      • I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [1] (found by Google, in small text on the right)
        Rewrite to be more consise, maybe:
        The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH which claims the same thing.
--phlip 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --phlip 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline phlip is right. Google it. --Jay (Talk) 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't.
    Rewrite It still needs to be more concise:
    The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". Robert Bosch GmbH is a German automotive company which does claim this.
--phlip 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Slightly embarrassed second Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --Jay (Talk) 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Also second that sounds better -- Nighthawk
  • Second Shorter = better -- Ju Ju Master
  • Decline. The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- tomstiff 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • True... but that's not what this fact is about. --Jay (Talk) 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- tomstiff 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • WHOA! I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable! Cheatachu72
  • NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!! I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is not part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --Jay (Talk) 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accepts the rewritten version. -- SBEmail22
  • Senator, I SECOND that I as well accept the rewritten version. --SaikoRoxi

labor day

Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bug in Mouth Disease

Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

  • Mild Accept Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --VolatileChemical 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline. ADATMBGR -- tomstiff 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • And that stands for? --AnarchyBalsac
      • I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" phlip TC 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)


The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

  • Decline First! Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- Lappy 486 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept (Maybe Rewrite). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).
    • "The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -MK and/or BurnBox 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment It's not tradition, it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: Revise some more, if not decline Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." If that doesn't work, I say DECLINE 3 Weak Accept...ed -MK and/or BurnBox 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Here's the wikipedia link. -- tomstiff 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline If you actually read the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- Tony Stony 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- tomstiff 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- Tony Stony 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- tomstiff 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Allready voted, just a comment I think how it is put on Cell Phone is best.



the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

  • Revise Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --user: Lappy 486 May 2 9:25
    • Second It is too long, but does make sense. Ramrod 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ok fixed Ganome 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Proposed Revision: the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic
  • I'm...hesitant Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg. Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. Rudeboy87 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise: The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from The Naked City, "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." PolarBoy 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact and then once that happens rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.TK600 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every 
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States 
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")
  • Revise Possibly:
The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email 
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements 
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor 
every 20 minutes.
I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - AtionSong May 8 , 2005
  • Major Decline and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
    • Second The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. unknownwarrior33 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! Ganome 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Only accept Naked City part. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

garage sale

Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

theme park

Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

  • I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. Accept that one, but Neutral on the former; could be either way, really. --Shadow Hog 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Meeehh When there are two likely answers, hang them both. Donny vs Universe
  • Double Accept I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? user: lappy 486
    • Second. It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--rsl12 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --Beatfox 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.Why did this get STUFFed? AtionSong11:33, 30 Apr 2005
    • Seconded with a capital S --djm1791 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Third --Da Borg
  • Decline the former, accept the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --Andorra409 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? {is confused} --Jay 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. Donny vs Universe
        • Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --Jay (Talk) 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • Probably just means that it's something of a weak Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --Shadow Hog 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
            • Sorry for the confusion, I meant to accept the first, and weak accept the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --Andorra409 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline A, Accept B --Jay 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Move A, Decline B.' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --ISlayedTheKerrek 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
    • Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --Shadow Hog 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Both -- Joshua
  • Decline Both -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? Tony Stony 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Both -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

couch patch

Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

  • Revise. Uhh...I sort of catch your meaning. -MK and/or BurnBox 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Most dictionaries list it as one word: crosstalk.It's dot com 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". Donny vs Universe
    • Second, to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
  • Revise You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. GillanTheVillain 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --TheEggman 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --Beatfox 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --NFITC1
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."
  • Exobably not. I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. Rudeboy87 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an Accept, preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
      • Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. Rudeboy87 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
        • The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. Donny vs Universe
  • No. I think he means like "backtalk." TK600 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Commentary by: ME!!!ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--Because, It's Midnite

Blue Laser Commander

A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

Under Construction

Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".

The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
  • "MAYBE'D!"I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--MrsCommanderson 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- tomstiff 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. - Dr Haggis - Talk 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept 1st, Decline 2nd I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. Dasrik 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. Decline the second
  • No and no. It's snot. Rudeboy87 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept (though possibly revise?) Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The Snot Bubble is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--rsl12 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --Beatfox 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Kvb 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.Rebochan 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --Trogga 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Nuetral So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?The_Pardack
  • Decline Note the commentary for japanese cartoon. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. Suicune64 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • WITHDRAWN Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be Rewritten. I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.TakuaKaita600 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. ISlayedTheKerrek
  • No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. Accept. → FireBird
  • Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • It'Snot Blood I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --user: Lappy 486 30 Apr 9:32
  • Yes to the first one, No to the second - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__Tony Stony 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. EdgeKing 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
  • Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Common Taters - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --SaikoRoxi 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
  • Ahem, noTBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--Because, It's Midnite


rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

  • Decline It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --Jay 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh oops. I missed that.
  • However, there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
  • Accept i guess It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --user: Lappy 486
  • Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --Jay 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!! I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

long pants

Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

  • Weak Decline Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --TheEggman 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to Severe Decline. --TheEggman 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment.The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
  • Accept. I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --Joshua 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --TheEggman 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- tomstiff 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first. I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.TakuaKaita600 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, Rewrite yep, it's true what the man says.
  • Acceptomundo I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. User: Lappy 486
  • Second. -Walking Armless
  • Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr, 
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is 
programmed to remove text, 
Edga Jr. may have removed it.

This could be a comment instead of a goof.TK600 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

  • I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --AnarchyBalsac

Main Page 6

Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

  • Decline If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --the spludge 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
  • Revise and Accept. It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — It's dot com 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
    • Second Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --Joshua 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --TheEggman 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --thatkidsam 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
    • Second -- AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline As I said on Talk:Main Page 6, there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --phlip 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- tomstiff 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.TK600 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

best thing

Alternative vs. Hair Metal

The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.

  • Revise. A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. ISlayedTheKerrek 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' -- 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise! English, please? --Aussie Evil 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --TheEggman 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Trogga 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Accept New Vresion I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --acekirby13 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Slightly Revise... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --TheEggman 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Oh yeah, forgot about that. --acekirby13 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I just don't like this one. --user: lappy 486 25 Apr
  • Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --ISlayedTheKerrek 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. - 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
  • Accept, um, sorta In the Strong Bad Email Band Names, Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
  • Accept Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.Fizz123
    • Comment from original poster Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. - (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
  • Umm... Guys, this fact is still on the page...
    • Comment. You can fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --Beatfox 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
    • Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: ACCEPT, YA DIG?!TK600 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --SaikoRoxi 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
  • Umm, this looks like a winner. --

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

  • Accept. Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- tomstiff 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Definitely Diff'rent Strokes. — It's dot com 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- Tony Stony 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept? Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --TROGGA! 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — It's dot com 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Homestar Presents: Presents

Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

  • First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. -- 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Revise and accept Not in Alaska.
  • Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~
    • You know alot about clocks.
  • Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
  • Rewrite To something like:
  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
    • Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Third...I mean.. Second. --RPharazon
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..Donny vs Universe
  • Accept However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
  • Decline I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --TheEggman 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does. Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. Fizz123(I'm not logged in.)
  • Accept. Super Sam 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, cwap! It's Declined! Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... User: Lappy 486
  • Accept The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - Song from 60s 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. It's dot com 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in The Best Decemberween Ever, which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --Jay 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Weak Decline. ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in 3 Times Halloween Funjob, as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --TheEggman 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move to Homestar's House. --Trogga 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
    • Comment. You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --TheEggman

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor
  • Revise, accept. I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --Ogog
    • Comment Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun Facts here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --TheEggman
  • Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- AnarchyBalsac
  • Declined... oh, that's rough I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... Dasrik 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area

That's enough for me. Oh, ACCEPT, it's you. Cheatachu72 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. Decline for the same reason. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- Tony Stony 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!
  • Accept, but move. If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --TheEggman 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline-pthoo I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. User: Lappy 486
    • Second. This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --Beatfox 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- AnarchyBalsac


Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See rock opera - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Standing too close to you in Decline --User: Lappy 486
  • Decline. Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- tomstiff 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- tomstiff 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about. --Gooblies 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second'd! Cheatachu72 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

  • STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --Jay 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. "Though Strong Bad wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an angelerfish, he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. Fizz to the 123
  • Accept but rewrite I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. -- User: Lappy 486
  • Rewrite. "Strong Bad's 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world anglerfish. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --Beatfox 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Accept but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."TK600 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command

  • Accept Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --flashstorm 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --TheEggman 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --User: Lappy 486
  • Strong Decline This happenes all the time with the Compy. --BenRK 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- tomstiff 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Its true. -- Tony Stony 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

  • Decline. This is a comment, not a fact. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Revise. Strike the second sentence and add a link to Compy 386. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Rewrite. "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --TheEggman 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declination Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--Posted by -erson 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. User: Lappy 486
  • Decline I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the Compy 386 page instead, but definately not here. - AtionSong 7 May, 2005
  • Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Comment. Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- Kiwi 16:54, 18 May 2005
  • Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Weak Accept / Rewrite - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. SaikoRoxi - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005


Freatmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Complete Instant Decline type of instant noodles.Maestro 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. What does this have do with "privileges"? --TROGGA! 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)



How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

  • Decline Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for 50 emails)? --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- tomstiff 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- Tony Stony 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Deline Who knows, who cares? The Pardack

unused emails


This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

  • Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)



Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

  • Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
    • Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

  • Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --Ogog
  • Accept Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --Shadow Hog 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, Decline. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --Joshua 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept & Revise Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question. TK600 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Once And Only Once. This is already in the transcript, so no need for it to be here. --phlip 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept -- AnarchyBalsac
  • By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I Reject, Decline, and want to delete this.Maestro 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Massive Rewrite
    The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
    That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip TC 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.


"Crapfully yours" a running gag?

Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and Jay deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.

  • The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
  • Decline I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. Donny vs Universe
  • Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, crafully yours crap in all of its forms does as well --Tony Stony 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DELORTED! Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying Dear Strong Bad is a running gag! Cheatachu72 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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