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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
Things already noted in the transcript
Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

[edit] Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

[edit] To be done

How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
- Right now they are in HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive
- Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

[edit] STUFF'd Facts

[edit] mile

[edit] Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay (Gobble) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second the comment. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second the comment Eric 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] The House That Gave Sucky Treats

[edit] Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0

Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0.

Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
- Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
- The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
- Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. -Svelt
Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dangeresque 3

[edit] So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay (Gobble) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
  - Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay (Gobble) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay (Gobble) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
  - Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Experimental Film

[edit] The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second both the vote and the question. --Jay (Gobble) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay (Gobble) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      - Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sisters

[edit] Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. — It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
~~Neutral.~~ Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
    - I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
      - Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
        "Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --Upset_Your_Balance 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
- The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
  - I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
    - It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
      - Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      - Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Homestar Runner's Website

[edit] World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] 102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip ^T_C 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
- Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--Because, It's Midnite
Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. silverwing99 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.

Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay (Gobble) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay (Gobble) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
- Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master
  - Have a look at HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts. As for the fact, Accept as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. phlip ^T_C 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --Tony Stony 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept, but not as GoofThis is actually worth noting, kinda. -- Lappy 486 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] «Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second - DECLAN-ATED! 82.43.178.225 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
Second. It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --SBEmail22 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
DeclineProbably not good material for a Fun Fact.
Revise When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song. Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason. This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?

[edit] You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jay (Gobble) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House That Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jay (Gobble) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --Jay (Gobble) 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: It wasn't just a pause. He said, "What are you... um... doing..."
  - Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --Jay (Gobble) 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. GG Crono 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --Big Dog 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Acceptinating the Countryside. I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
- Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes close, but does Strong Bad actually reference "car"? No, he does not. — It's dot com 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You said ACCEPTED again! --Iml91 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"? --Me
This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --Jay (Gobble) 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. Donny vs Universe
  - Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --Jay (Gobble) 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What are you, um... Declining? I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --Lappy 486 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
Accept Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....Because, It's Midnite

[edit] Oops, I STUFF'd it!

Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the system sounds quote pack.

Decline. Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. This is an obvious reference to the Decline above. -- tomstiff 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I think not sir. -- Tony Stony 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah decline
- You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain neutral on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --SBEmail22 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
Decline. Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted." Svelt 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Sometimes people just say stuff. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005

[edit] Boring sound

The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in Teen Girl Squad Issue 3.

Decline. Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly not a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --BazookaJoe 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Vera low

The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.

Decline Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --Jay (Gobble) 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. — It's dot com 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- Tony Stony 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --BazookaJoe 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Prezactly. phlip ^T_C 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sort of Accept Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
- It's Senor, but not Señor. --Jay (Gobble) 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. Decline Donny vs Universes

[edit] little animal

[edit] Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip ^T_C 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jay (Gobble) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jay (Gobble) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept for Trivia. This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -Svelt

[edit] time capsule

[edit] The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Good eyes. -Svelt

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

VERDICT: The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Main Page 22. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CONTEST: I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective talk page. — It's dot com 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!

[edit] Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
- Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
  - What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jay (Gobble) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
    - By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
      - Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
Revise and accept. Make it like this:

The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
- Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
Acceptalized. 82.43.178.225
Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
- Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
- Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
  - Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
Decline. This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — It's dot com 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls. I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity. -Svelt

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -Svelt
  - Comment... But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -Kiwi 20:46, 16 Jun 2005

[edit] unused emails

[edit] CDs

This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
possible rewriteI get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. Donny vs Universe
Rewrite. This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's. No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -Svelt

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
- Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Massive Rewrite
The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip ^T_C 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Accept as rewritten. — It's dot com 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

Added by --217.12.147.14 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. — It's dot com 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recently closed items

[edit] rock opera

[edit] Angled?

The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] guitar

[edit] That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:guitar. -- tomstiff 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kind of cool

[edit] Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:kind of cool. -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] privileges

[edit] Fretmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:privileges. -- tomstiff 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] flashback

[edit] Emails

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:flashback. -- tomstiff 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pom pom

[edit] hidden frame

For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:pom pom. — It's dot com 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] The Answering Room

Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:part-time job. — It's dot com 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:boring (really) -- tomstiff 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] old comics

[edit] Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:old comics. -- tomstiff 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] secret recipes

[edit] The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes. -- tomstiff 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheatday

[edit] Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheatday. -- tomstiff 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Times Halloween Funjob

[edit] 3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob. -- tomstiff 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] Eyes

Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. — It's dot com 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. -- tomstiff 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] long pants

[edit] No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

VERDICT: This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] monster truck

[edit] Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Reference?

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] anything

[edit] The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] do over

[edit] Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. — It's dot com 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

VERDICT: After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheat talk

[edit] To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

VERDICT: After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheat talk. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkomanual

[edit] Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company. (revised)

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkomanual. — It's dot com 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] labor day

[edit] Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug In Mouth Disease

[edit] Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 555-What?

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

VERDICT: This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comic

[edit] CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

VERDICT. Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to Talk:comic. — It's dot com 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] garage sale

[edit] Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme park

[edit] Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

VERDICT: Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:theme park. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] couch patch

[edit] Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

VERDICT: This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:couch patch. — It's dot com 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

[edit] Under Construction

[edit] Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Under Construction. — It's dot com 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rampage

[edit] rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. — It's dot com 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page 6

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

CLOSED. The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to Talk:Main Page 6. — It's dot com 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] best thing

[edit] Alternative vs. Hair Metal

Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success. (rewrite)

VERDICT: This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing. — It's dot com 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] origins

[edit] Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins. -- tomstiff 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

VERDICT: The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8. — It's dot com 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

CLOSED: This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on Homestar's House, which it already is. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

VERDICT: This item was accepted and moved. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Runner. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] animal

[edit] Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] virus

[edit] Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

VERDICT: This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

CLOSED. This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough. — It's dot com 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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-Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
+The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
 Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
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-== Toons and E-mails ==
+== STUFF'd Facts ==
-===[[Homestar's Website]]===
+===[[mile]]===
+====Fourth Wall Break?====
+Strong Bad made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.
+OR
+The Cheat made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.
+*I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the [[Talk:mile|Talk]] page, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to '''accept''' this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
+*'''Accept''' I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in [[anything]] it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second the comment.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second the comment''' [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+* Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''COMMENT.''' Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
+** '''Not neccesary'''. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
+====Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?====
+Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
+*'''Decline.''' I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline as written.''' But see revision below. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+'''REVISE TO:''' Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
+*'''Accept the revision.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' I mean, he must ''really'' think that joke is funny. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/demo|new format]]''', which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- [[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]
+*'''Accept but revise''' I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
+**'''Sorcorndorned!''' (seconded) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Still Decline''' For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one ''refers'' to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+*'''Accept.''' Much better. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[dangeresque 3]]===
+====So holdable a gun====
+The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.
+*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
+*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would.  Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
+**'''Second.''' Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' Yeah, I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
+*'''Accept.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====People's Court====
+As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The_People%27s_Court|The People's Court"]].
+*'''Duh-duh Decline!''' I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
+*** Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --[[User:Freshmutt|FM]] 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme.  That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad.  I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song  --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** I got news for you  Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
+***Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own.  --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+===[[Experimental Film]]===
+====The Water====
+The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.
+*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
+*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Decline with a comment.''' So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
+** '''Second''' both the vote and the question. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** If they're not ''allowed'' to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*** I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And '''decline''' to this ridiculous fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*****'''Second''' to all these subcomments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Donnie Declineo''' Sorry. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*My mouth tastes like... '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[sisters]]===
+====Love/Hate Relationship====
+"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
+*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
+****I'll be there! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
+*****Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I ''know'' she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' clich&eacute;. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
+******"Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
+*'''Decline'''Not because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***'''Second''' Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+***I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*** I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**** It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen [[gimmicks]], which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to [[gimmicks]]. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*****Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*****Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+===[[Homestar Runner's Website]]===
 ====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====
@@ Line 57: / Line 171: @@
 *Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[boring (really)]]===
+====102 Exclamations====
+There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
+*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not?  But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
+**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline'''  Yeah.  Its true.  However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to.  I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Accept.''' 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed?  Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case.  And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon.  People might be curious. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
+*'''Accept''' Why not? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
+*'''Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT''' I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Universal Decline''' This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Accept!! >:(''' There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
 ====Are these really goofs? part 1====
@@ Line 71: / Line 208: @@
 *'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
 **'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit*''' Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.
 ====Are these really goofs? part 2====
@@ Line 80: / Line 221: @@
 **Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
+*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
+**Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
+***Have a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. As for the fact, '''Accept''' as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====Are these really goofs? part 3====
@@ Line 90: / Line 233: @@
 **'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 **'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept, but not as Goof'''This is actually worth noting, kinda. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Definitely not the hat, though====
-One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
-* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a [http://www.steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track5 Steely Dan] reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
-* Here's something: '''SECOND WITH EVERYBODY.''' Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Decline.''' Possible, but... nah. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Just delete this waste of html now!''' this is just stupid. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second!'''[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*'''Typing Tutor Turbo-DECLINED!''' No no no no! Come on, a fez is a CAP! -- [[User:MegamanEXE|MegamanEXE]] 11:15 AM 9 Jun 2005 (EDT)
 ====&#171;Insert hilarious joke here&#187;====
@@ Line 115: / Line 241: @@
 * '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 **'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
+*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline'''Probably not good material for a Fun Fact.
+*'''Revise''' When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song.  Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason.  This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation.  If not, why?
 ====You said doyng again!====
@@ Line 124: / Line 255: @@
 **'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 **'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
 *'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
@@ Line 133: / Line 264: @@
 *It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 **'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
+*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
+**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''You said ACCEPTED again!''' --[[User:Iml91|Iml91]] 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"?''' --[[User:Poopsmith Z|Me]]
+* This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*** Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''What are you, um... Declining?''' I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
+*'''Accept''' Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
-===[[old comics]]===
+====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
-====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
+Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].
-"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
-*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' first, '''second''' second. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' on the comma for reasons stated above, '''accept''' Woodstock. Domenico de Comma, does this guy think we're idiots?[[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**'''Second''' Why are we still discussing the second part? Put the Woodstock reference in! &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[secret recipes]] ===
+*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' This is an obvious reference to the '''Decline''' above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I think ''not'' sir. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah '''decline'''
+**You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain '''neutral''' on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline.''' Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted."  [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Sometimes people just say stuff. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
-====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
+====Boring sound====
+The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
-The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
+*'''Decline.''' Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly ''not'' a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+* Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' &mdash;[[User:Mikelx215|Mikelx215]] 21:47 PM, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[rock opera]] ===
-====Angled?====
-The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.
-*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Secondaded'''.  What's the use anywho?  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
-*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles.  They are two-dimensional.  -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Error?====
-On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
-*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-===[[cheatday]]===
-====Get outta here kid?====
-Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
-*'''Decline'''  If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
-***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
-*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''DECLINE!'''   'Nuff said.  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
-*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
-**'''Second,''' if that's possible. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
-====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
-The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
-*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all?  Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Seconded'''.  The less trival the better.  '''''Baleete and Burninate!'''''  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
-**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]
 ===[[Senorial Day]]===
+====Vera low====
-====Senor Shrub====
+The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.
-The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
+*'''Decline''' Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Yes, it is.  '''Accept''' - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Accept.''' My thoughts exactly, Tony.  --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Accept'd.''' Yep - same shrub alright. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second'''. Prezactly. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Ah, a good fun fact for once. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Sort of Accept''' Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
-*'''You'll save like an ACCEPT, or my name ain't Cheatachu72!''' Yeah, sure. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 23:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** It's Senor, but not Se&ntilde;or. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Go for it. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-*'''Accept'''. Just get rid of the "In Senorial Day" bit at the start when it's added to the page. {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Seconded''' because I have seen it firsthanded.  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:19 AM EDT June 6 2005.
-*'''Weak accept''' Fairly obvious to me but I guess other peoples might not get the referance right away. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**I didnt get it the first time I watched it so... --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:36, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Old Gron Sad voice?====
-Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
-*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
-The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
-*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced.  I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue.  This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**'''Second'''.  Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
-*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume.  I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
-Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
-*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*****'''Second With Modification''': Should read "The reference is taken - loosely - from the Disney cartoon series ''Kim Possible'', in which one of the villians is named Se&ntilde;or Se&ntilde;or, Senior." [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:36 PM EDT June 6 2005.
-****** I, uh, hope you're talking about my Fun Fact title and not the Fact itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-******* It's the fact, Jack!  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 7:48 PM EDT JUne 6 2005.
-*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 16:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
-**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Seconded'''.  Why not?  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
-*'''Accept''' This is a grood one.  It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' I don't know about you guys, but I personally love this fact. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' I don't see what's so fun about this particular fact, if indeed that's what it is.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Oh, what a feeling====
-The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Lurking around====
-Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
-*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font color>]]|<sup>[[User talk:acekirby13|<font color=green>My Talk</font color>]]</sup>  21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. &mdash;[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now?  '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack.  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM,  June 2 2005 (EDT)
-**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Frolic or Bet?====
-When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.
-How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible?  My suggestion:
-"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"
-*'''Accept'''.  I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context.  Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**I am very impressed.  That is probably it.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[little animal]]===
@@ Line 355: / Line 320: @@
 *9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun."  This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' for '''Trivia.'''  This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-===[[guitar]]===
-====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
-Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
-*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
-*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
-*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
-**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion.  I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
-*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing.  Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like?  Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[time capsule]]===
-====Eyes====
-Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
-*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
-*'''ACCEPT'''!  Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*  *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
-*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
-*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Seconded'''.  Didn't notice until I saw it.  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
-**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM
-====Isle of Pom?====
-The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====The Life Saving Turtle====
 The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].
@@ Line 412: / Line 328: @@
 *D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.'''  Good eyes.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-===[[long pants]]===
-====No "la dee la dee la"?====
-Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
-*Cept not.  It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd.  When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page.  Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept'''.  This certainly is a reference.  Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com.  But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to.  At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) <small>You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.</small>
-**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Accept.'''  No need to even spend money on a poster to see this.  Go to "www.homestarrunner.com".  What does it say at the very top?  "everybody!  everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
-*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
-**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
-**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
 ===[[Main Page 22]]===
@@ Line 447: / Line 334: @@
 Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.
-*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
-*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
-**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
-*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
+===[[HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
 ====Unaired Episodes!====
 "teenage girl show!
@@ Line 502: / Line 383: @@
 *'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
+*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.'''  Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls.  I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+=== [[The Luau]] ===
+==== Unexpected guests? ====
+In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
+*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+***'''Comment...''' But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 20:46, 16 Jun 2005
+===[[unused emails]]===
+====CDs====
+This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
+*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''possible rewrite'''I get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Rewrite.''' This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's.  No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
+====Different Colors====
+The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.
+*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
+**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Tiny eye difference====
+The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Accept as rewritten.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Liekand's magic pockets====
+Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
+*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+<br />
+== Recently closed items ==
+=== [[rock opera]] ===
+====Angled?====
+The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Error?====
+On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[guitar]]===
+====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
+Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:guitar]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+=== [[kind of cool]] ===
+====Homestar's Singing====
+When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:kind of cool]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[privileges]]===
+====Fretmagic Kids!====
+"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:privileges]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[flashback]]===
+====Emails====
+How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[pom pom]]===
+====hidden frame====
+For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:pom pom]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[part-time job]]===
+====The Answering Room====
+Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:part-time job]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[boring (really)]]===
+====Definitely not the hat, though====
+One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[old comics]]===
+====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
+"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+=== [[secret recipes]] ===
+====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
+The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[cheatday]]===
+====Get outta here kid?====
+Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
+====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
+The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[Senorial Day]]===
+====Old Gron Sad voice?====
+Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
+The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Lurking around====
+Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Senor Shrub====
+The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
+Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Oh, what a feeling====
+The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[time capsule]]===
+====Eyes====
+Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Isle of Pom?====
+The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+===[[long pants]]===
+====No "la dee la dee la"?====
+Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Old New Intro|Intro]].
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+====Edga Jr. removes text?====
+Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[monster truck]]===
@@ Line 515: / Line 580: @@
 '''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== Unexpected guests? ====
-In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
-*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 === [[anything]] ===
@@ Line 533: / Line 593: @@
 ====Tandy 400 Goofs====
 When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
-*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Seconded.'''  'Tis true, voters, 'tis true.  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
-*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====Totally not gettin' old?====
@@ Line 551: / Line 609: @@
 Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
-*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-***Yeah. It does.
-***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-****Yeah. It does.
-*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
-**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
-* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.'''  To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over."  I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over.  But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers.  --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
-*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email.  For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for.  --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====A Type of Bad Grammar====
 This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.
-*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
-*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|<font color=green>T<small>ony</small> S<small>tony</small>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tony Stony|talk</sup></font>]]
-*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]<sup>[[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)</sup>
-*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of <i>remind</i> you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
-<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
-"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
-*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
-*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
-*'''Big-Time Decline'''.  Needs to be ''baleeted!''  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
-*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
-*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|<span style="color: #6600FF">mibluvr13</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:mibluvr13|<span style="color: #9999FF">dígame</span>]]</sup>''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====Grammatically Incorrect====
@@ Line 610: / Line 622: @@
 '''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[kind of cool]] ===
-====Homestar's Singing====
-When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
-*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[cheat talk]]===
@@ Line 624: / Line 629: @@
 At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.
-*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
-**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*<s>'''Accept.''' It <i>is</i> part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
-**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
-*Yeah, it <i>is</i> part of The Cheat's name.  Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun".  '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
-*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
-*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
-*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
-*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**But dude, Strong Bad is <i>making fun of him</i> by not capitalizing it.  At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't.  --[[User:Tony Stony|<font color=green>T<small>ony</small> S<small>tony</small>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tony Stony|talk</sup></font>]]
-**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
-*<b>Decline</b> This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
-:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
-**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
-***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
-****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[Stinkomanual]]===
@@ Line 660: / Line 635: @@
 ====Saargtsson Ltd.====
-The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschr&auml;nkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".
+The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company. ''(revised)''
-'''Rewrite:'''
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkomanual]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German  company.
-*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
-***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right)<br>'''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
-***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
-::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
-*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "&lt;company&gt; is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
-**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
-*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
-*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't.<br>'''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
-*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
-:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
-:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
-*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
-*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
-*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
 ===[[labor day]]===
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 '''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
+===[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]===
 ====Music by TMBG?====
 The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
-*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====555-What?====
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 The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)
-*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
-**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number.  Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait.  I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference".  It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers.  It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.
 ===[[comic]]===
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 the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
-*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
+'''VERDICT.''' Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:comic]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
-*ok fixed  [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page  for [[comic]]
-*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do.  [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise''':  The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
-<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
-three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
-announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
-alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
-*'''Revise''' Possibly:
-<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
-every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
-like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
-every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
-*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
-**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[garage sale]]===
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 '''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
-*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+'''VERDICT:''' Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
-**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O."  So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
-**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Third''' --Da Borg
-*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
-**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
-*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped.  I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers?  [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention.  As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question.  Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell
 ===[[couch patch]]===
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 At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)
-*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:couch patch]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise.'''  Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].''  &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
-*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative.  But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well.  And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
-*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br>
-<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
-him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
-wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
-it out, you."</pre>
-*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air?  I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
-***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's <i>using</i> it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
-****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
 ===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
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 ===[[Under Construction]]===
 ====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
--Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
+-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
-:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
-*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Under Construction]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
-**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)'''  Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime.  The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters.  Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
-*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
-::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. &rarr; ''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
-:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
-*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji.  After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think.  As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
-**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
-*<b>Decline</b> You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, <b>Rewrite it.</b> Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
-*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
 ===[[rampage]]===
 ====rampage easter egg====
 At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
-* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-* Oh oops. I missed that.
-* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
-*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
-*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey
-===[[long pants]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Edga Jr. removes text?====
-Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
-*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs).  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen.  Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
-*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing.  I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed?  In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it.  It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
-*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
-*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
-*<b>Decline</b> That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
-<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
-all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
-programmed to remove text,
-Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
-This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
 ===[[Main Page 6]]===
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 Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
-*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
+'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
-*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
-**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow.  But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
-**<b>Second</b> -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[best thing]]===
 ==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
-The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
+Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
-*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
+''(rewrite)''
-*'''Revise'''  a bit too wordy...  perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s.  This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with.  Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.
-The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
-With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
-*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
-*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[origins]]===
@@ Line 933: / Line 726: @@
 In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
-*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
-*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
-*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
-**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know.  Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
-**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
-*Umm, this looks like a winner. --
 ===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
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 "Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
-*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --<span style="color: #adff2f">[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]]</span> 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 === [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
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 It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
-*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock.  Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
-*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
-**You know alot about clocks.
-*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
-*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
-**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
-*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
-*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
-*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ==== Charlie Brown ====
 The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.
-*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
+'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above.  Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant.  However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
-**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
 ==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
 Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
-*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
-*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
-*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen.  We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations.  In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*<b>Decline</b> It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
-*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
- *disconnected phone
- *the word "Coach" in both names
- *both were talking to family
- *both were in a dining area
-That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
-*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts.  There is no notable similarity in this.  Its a comic gag, not a reference.  Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact".  In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy.  If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ==== A running gag? ====
 The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
-* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here.  I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
-* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
-* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
-* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
-**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
-* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
-* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!?  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
-**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
-*<b>Decline</b> It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
 === [[animal]] ===
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 The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
-*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
-**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**<b>Second</b> -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing.  See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
-*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 ==== Fanglyfish ====
 The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
-*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
-*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish].  It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
-*<b>Decline</b> Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite.''' I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 === [[virus]] ===
 ==== Drive letter ====
-After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
+After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.
-*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**<b>Seconded</b> Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
-*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
-*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept'''.  Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====The Compy's Reign====
 This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
-*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by <font color="CC3333">-erson</font> ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
-*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
-*<b>Decline</b> This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
-*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much <b>is</b> obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005
-===[[privileges]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Freatmagic Kids!====
-"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
-*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --<span style="color: #adff2f">[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]]</span> 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[flashback]]===
-====Emails====
-How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
-*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on?  It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-===[[unused emails]]===
-====CDs====
-This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
-*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==Games==
 ===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
-====Different Colors====
-The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.
-*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
-**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 ====More Levels====
 When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".
-*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
+'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
-*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
-*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
-*<b>Accept</b> -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
-*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Tiny eye difference====
-The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
-*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Liekand's magic pockets====
-Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
-*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-== General ==
-===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
-Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
-* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
-*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done.  If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)