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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
Things already noted in the transcript
Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

[edit] Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

[edit] To be done

How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
- Right now they are in HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive
- Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

[edit] STUFF'd Facts

[edit] mile

[edit] Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay (Talk) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second the comment. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second the comment Eric 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] The House That Gave Sucky Treats

[edit] Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0

Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0.

Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
- Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
- The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
- Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. -Svelt
Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dangeresque 3

[edit] So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay (Talk) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
  - Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay (Talk) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay (Talk) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
  - Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Experimental Film

[edit] The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second both the vote and the question. --Jay (Talk) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay (Talk) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      - Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sisters

[edit] Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. — It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
~~Neutral.~~ Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
    - I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
      - Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
        "Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --Upset_Your_Balance 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
- The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
  - I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
    - It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
      - Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      - Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Homestar Runner's Website

[edit] World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] 102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip ^T_C 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
- Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--Because, It's Midnite
Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. silverwing99 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.

Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay (Talk) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay (Talk) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
- Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master
  - Have a look at HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts. As for the fact, Accept as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. phlip ^T_C 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --Tony Stony 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept, but not as GoofThis is actually worth noting, kinda. -- Lappy 486 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] «Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second - DECLAN-ATED! 82.43.178.225 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
Second. It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --SBEmail22 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
DeclineProbably not good material for a Fun Fact.
Revise When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song. Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason. This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?

[edit] You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jay (Talk) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House That Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jay (Talk) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --Jay (Talk) 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: It wasn't just a pause. He said, "What are you... um... doing..."
  - Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --Jay (Talk) 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. GG Crono 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --Big Dog 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Acceptinating the Countryside. I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
- Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes close, but does Strong Bad actually reference "car"? No, he does not. — It's dot com 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You said ACCEPTED again! --Iml91 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"? --Me
This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --Jay (Talk) 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. Donny vs Universe
  - Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --Jay (Talk) 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What are you, um... Declining? I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --Lappy 486 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
Accept Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....Because, It's Midnite

[edit] Oops, I STUFF'd it!

Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the system sounds quote pack.

Decline. Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. This is an obvious reference to the Decline above. -- tomstiff 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I think not sir. -- Tony Stony 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah decline
- You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain neutral on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --SBEmail22 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
Decline. Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted." Svelt 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Sometimes people just say stuff. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005

[edit] Boring sound

The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in Teen Girl Squad Issue 3.

Decline. Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly not a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --BazookaJoe 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Vera low

The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.

Decline Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --Jay (Talk) 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. — It's dot com 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- Tony Stony 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --BazookaJoe 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Prezactly. phlip ^T_C 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sort of Accept Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
- It's Senor, but not Señor. --Jay (Talk) 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. Decline Donny vs Universes

[edit] little animal

[edit] Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip ^T_C 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jay (Talk) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jay (Talk) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept for Trivia. This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -Svelt

[edit] time capsule

[edit] The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Good eyes. -Svelt

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

VERDICT: The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Main Page 22. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CONTEST: I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective talk page. — It's dot com 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!

[edit] Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
- Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
  - What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jay (Talk) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
    - By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
      - Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
Revise and accept. Make it like this:

The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
- Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
Acceptalized. 82.43.178.225
Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
- Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
- Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
  - Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
Decline. This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — It's dot com 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls. I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity. -Svelt

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -Svelt
  - Comment... But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -Kiwi 20:46, 16 Jun 2005

[edit] unused emails

[edit] CDs

This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
possible rewriteI get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. Donny vs Universe
Rewrite. This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's. No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -Svelt

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
- Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Massive Rewrite
The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip ^T_C 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Accept as rewritten. — It's dot com 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

Added by --217.12.147.14 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. — It's dot com 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recently closed items

[edit] rock opera

[edit] Angled?

The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] guitar

[edit] That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:guitar. -- tomstiff 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kind of cool

[edit] Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:kind of cool. -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] privileges

[edit] Fretmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:privileges. -- tomstiff 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] flashback

[edit] Emails

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:flashback. -- tomstiff 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pom pom

[edit] hidden frame

For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:pom pom. — It's dot com 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] The Answering Room

Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:part-time job. — It's dot com 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:boring (really) -- tomstiff 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] old comics

[edit] Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:old comics. -- tomstiff 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] secret recipes

[edit] The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes. -- tomstiff 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheatday

[edit] Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheatday. -- tomstiff 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Times Halloween Funjob

[edit] 3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob. -- tomstiff 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] Eyes

Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. — It's dot com 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. -- tomstiff 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] long pants

[edit] No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

VERDICT: This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] monster truck

[edit] Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Reference?

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] anything

[edit] The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] do over

[edit] Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. — It's dot com 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

VERDICT: After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheat talk

[edit] To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

VERDICT: After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheat talk. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkomanual

[edit] Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company. (revised)

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkomanual. — It's dot com 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] labor day

[edit] Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug In Mouth Disease

[edit] Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 555-What?

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

VERDICT: This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comic

[edit] CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

VERDICT. Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to Talk:comic. — It's dot com 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] garage sale

[edit] Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme park

[edit] Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

VERDICT: Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:theme park. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] couch patch

[edit] Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

VERDICT: This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:couch patch. — It's dot com 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

[edit] Under Construction

[edit] Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Under Construction. — It's dot com 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rampage

[edit] rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. — It's dot com 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page 6

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

CLOSED. The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to Talk:Main Page 6. — It's dot com 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] best thing

[edit] Alternative vs. Hair Metal

Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success. (rewrite)

VERDICT: This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing. — It's dot com 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] origins

[edit] Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins. -- tomstiff 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

VERDICT: The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8. — It's dot com 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

CLOSED: This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on Homestar's House, which it already is. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

VERDICT: This item was accepted and moved. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Runner. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] animal

[edit] Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] virus

[edit] Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

VERDICT: This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

CLOSED. This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough. — It's dot com 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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+<div style="background:gold;border:1px #990 dashed;padding:12px"><center>'''This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are ''not'' active. Please see [[HRWiki:STUFF]] for active votes.'''</center></div>
-Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
+The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
 Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
+Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.
 Things that always make good fun facts:
 * References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
-* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
+* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
 * ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
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+[[Category:STUFF|Old STUFF]]
 == Voting ==
 New votes cast should generally be as follows:
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 * '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
 * '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
-* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
+* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
 * '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
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 **Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
-== Toons and E-mails ==
+== STUFF'd Facts ==
-====[[Blue Laser Commander]]====
-====A legendary voice, you screech?====
+===[[mile]]===
-The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.
+====Fourth Wall Break?====
+Strong Bad made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.
-*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+OR
-*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
-*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]<sup>[[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) </sup>
-*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Under Construction]]===
+The Cheat made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.
-====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
--Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
-:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
-*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the [[Talk:mile|Talk]] page, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to '''accept''' this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
-*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
+*'''Comment''' Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in [[anything]] it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Second the comment.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second the comment''' [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)'''  Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime.  The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters.  Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+* Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''COMMENT.''' Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
-**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+** '''Not neccesary'''. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[trevor the vampire]]===
+===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
-====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
-When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.
-*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?====
-** '''Second''' ----
+Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
-*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I <b>decline</b>. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' I think it <i>was</i> deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline as written.''' But see revision below. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word.  This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
-*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this?  It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
-**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[japanese cartoon]]===
+'''REVISE TO:''' Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
+*'''Accept the revision.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' I mean, he must ''really'' think that joke is funny. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/demo|new format]]''', which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- [[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]
+*'''Accept but revise''' I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
+**'''Sorcorndorned!''' (seconded) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Still Decline''' For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one ''refers'' to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+*'''Accept.''' Much better. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====So cool an unseen email====
+===[[dangeresque 3]]===
-Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
+====So holdable a gun====
-*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.
-**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it".  It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Oolong's Namesake====
+*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
+*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would.  Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia.  The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
-*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
+**'''Second.''' Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' Yeah, I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
-***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====MikeMike And Matt Rock====
+====People's Court====
+As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The_People%27s_Court|The People's Court"]].
+*'''Duh-duh Decline!''' I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
+*** Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --[[User:Freshmutt|FM]] 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme.  That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad.  I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song  --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** I got news for you  Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
+***Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own.  --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].
+===[[Experimental Film]]===
+====The Water====
+The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.
-*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
+*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
+*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
+*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Decline with a comment.''' So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
-*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch.  Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute.  Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+** '''Second''' both the vote and the question. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** If they're not ''allowed'' to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*** I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And '''decline''' to this ridiculous fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*****'''Second''' to all these subcomments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Donnie Declineo''' Sorry. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*My mouth tastes like... '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[rampage]]===
+===[[sisters]]===
+====Love/Hate Relationship====
+"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
+*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
+****I'll be there! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
+*****Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I ''know'' she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' clich&eacute;. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
+******"Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
+*'''Decline'''Not because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***'''Second''' Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+***I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*** I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**** It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen [[gimmicks]], which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to [[gimmicks]]. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*****Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*****Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-====Jammin'====
+===[[Homestar Runner's Website]]===
-"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].
-*'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====
-*'''Decline.''' It's also mentioned in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====rampage easter egg====
+Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".
-At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
-* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-* Oh oops. I missed that.
-* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
-*There's already a section for [[rampage]]. Put this in there. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===
+*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Ugly Animation====
+===[[boring (really)]]===
-The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.
+====102 Exclamations====
+There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
+*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not?  But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
+**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline'''  Yeah.  Its true.  However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to.  I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Accept.''' 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed?  Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case.  And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon.  People might be curious. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
+*'''Accept''' Why not? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
+*'''Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT''' I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Universal Decline''' This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Accept!! >:(''' There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====Are these really goofs? part 1====
-*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
-*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth.  Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies.  I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Here Comes li'l Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
+**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
-*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit*''' Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.
-====Things are lookin' up!====
+====Are these really goofs? part 2====
+The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
+<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
+*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
+**Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
+***Have a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. As for the fact, '''Accept''' as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Ironically, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====Are these really goofs? part 3====
+If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
+*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept, but not as Goof'''This is actually worth noting, kinda. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====&#171;Insert hilarious joke here&#187;====
-**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.
-*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic.  I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]<sup>[[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)</sup>
-===[[impression]]===
+* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her"  the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====What year is it?====
+* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
+*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline'''Probably not good material for a Fun Fact.
+*'''Revise''' When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song.  Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason.  This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation.  If not, why?
-The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.
+====You said doyng again!====
+Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
+*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing&mdash;but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be.  I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do.  Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I <i>thought</i> he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
+*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
+**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''You said ACCEPTED again!''' --[[User:Iml91|Iml91]] 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"?''' --[[User:Poopsmith Z|Me]]
+* This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*** Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''What are you, um... Declining?''' I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
+*'''Accept''' Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
-'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
+====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
-*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks.  Please do not close any items that are newer than that that.  In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT!  Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
+Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].
-**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period.  Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-===[[dangeresque 3]]===
+*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Constantinople?====
+*'''Decline.''' This is an obvious reference to the '''Decline''' above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I think ''not'' sir. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah '''decline'''
+**You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain '''neutral''' on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline.''' Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted."  [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Sometimes people just say stuff. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
-The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
+====Boring sound====
-*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
-**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It <i>is</i> a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
-*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and <u>everytime</u> I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG.  My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
-**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[flashback]]===
+*'''Decline.''' Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly ''not'' a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
+**'''Second.''' Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+* Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
-*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
-*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
-*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*'''Comment'''  One might also add that both seem to have a common source.  That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create.  If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting.  Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
-**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
-**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
-===[[replacement]]===
+===[[Senorial Day]]===
-====Strong Mad sings====
+====Vera low====
-Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.
+The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.
+*'''Decline''' Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second'''. Prezactly. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Sort of Accept''' Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
+** It's Senor, but not Se&ntilde;or. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[little animal]]===
+====Used once more====
+The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
+*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun."  This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' for '''Trivia.'''  This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-===[[spring cleaning]]===
+===[[time capsule]]===
-====DELETED!====
+====The Life Saving Turtle====
-The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.
+The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].
-'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]
+*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.'''  Good eyes.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-===[[rampage]]===
+===[[Main Page 22]]===
+====ALL WRONG.......====
+Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.
-====Poetic chops====
+'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).
-*'''Decline.'''  I agree with what you're saying.  Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
-**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
-****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''''
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
-**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
-*Great jorb!
-** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' I hate to argue with someone on my side, but:  Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!"  so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle).  Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
+===[[HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
-Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound."  Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."
+====Unaired Episodes!====
+"teenage girl show!
+Revamped for the 90's.
+More humor! Finer dining!
+See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"
-*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
-** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense.  I think it's a good find.  And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
+*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
+*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.
+*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite'''. When I watched [[rampage]] for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]<sup>[[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)</sup>
+*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
+*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
+<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
+well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
+was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
+including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
+I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
+*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.
+*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
+*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection.  The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
+*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
+*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
+*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
+**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
+**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+***'''Second (the decline).'''  If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s!  See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection.  It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
+*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
+*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.'''  Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls.  I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+=== [[The Luau]] ===
-*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
+==== Unexpected guests? ====
-**'''Second.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
-*'''Accept'''  I don't get it.  It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff.  I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both.  Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
-**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm.  It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
-*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*** While this is true.  I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump.  Clearly I am losing this vote.  (Although four to one is a pretty small sample.  I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.)  I really honestly believe it is a reference to both.  I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
-*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus".  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these.  It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift?  Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]
-*'''A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me.''' I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]<sup>[[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)</sup>
-====Wite Wrapper====
+In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
-The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].
+*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+***'''Comment...''' But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 20:46, 16 Jun 2005
-* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[unused emails]]===
-* '''Decline'''  Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
+====CDs====
-** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
-** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
-*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page.  Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site.  In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
-*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
-*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-* I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-**Please tell me this is sarcasm. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Yes, it is. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-====English Lesson====
+*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
+*'''possible rewrite'''I get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Rewrite.''' This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's.  No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
-*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
-***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
-**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13.  I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this.  Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====I'm on a Rainbow====
+===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
-Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
-*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
-*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
-*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything?  And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized.  Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact.  Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it  sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages!  Still, I like the way you think.  It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
-*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
-*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]
-====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
+====Different Colors====
-Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
+The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.
-*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader.  It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch.  I checked it out in a sound editor.  Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase.  There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript.  --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
-*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript.  I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before?  In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====More Pie, Anyone?====
+*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
-"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
+**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference.  And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
-*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005
-====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
+====Tiny eye difference====
-One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled <i>Soup, Right?</i>, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
+The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
-*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Accept as rewritten.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
-*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
-*'''Decline.''' <i>Soup, Right?</i> could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
-*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
-**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
-*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
-**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***I'm not convinced.  It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food.  And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
-****Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Goodbye.  Hope you don't come back.  --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to '''Severe Decline/Delete.'''--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====
+====Liekand's magic pockets====
+Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
-"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.
+*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+<br />
-* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan.  Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
-*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[time capsule]]===
+== Recently closed items ==
-====Norse mythology====
-The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
-*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
-*'''Decline.''' Uh... no.  While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise and Accept.'''  This is a FUN FACT!  Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this.  I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...."  This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' No way does this work.  The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is.  Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005
-===[[pizzaz]]===
+=== [[rock opera]] ===
-====Third Interview====
+====Angled?====
-This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
+The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.
-*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
-*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**How about not?  Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews.  And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary.  '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
-*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
-*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Declorned.''' Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
-When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.
-*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Error?====
-* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005
-===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
+On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
-====Not Expecting====
-Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki><font color="CC3333">-erson</font>]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====The joke theory====
+===[[guitar]]===
-- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
+====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
-- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
-*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:guitar]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads   -TK
-*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
-**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is <u>impossible</u> to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by <font color="CC3333">-erson</font> ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[date]]===
+=== [[kind of cool]] ===
-====Ren & Stimpy XR====
+====Homestar's Singing====
-The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:date]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
-=== [[the show]] ===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:kind of cool]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Homestar's "Arms"====
-Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
-'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[privileges]]===
-=== [[suntan]] ===
+====Fretmagic Kids!====
-====Marzipan's Parasol====
+"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
-Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
-''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:privileges]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[local news]] ===
+===[[flashback]]===
-====Scalawag====
-"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
-:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
-:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====Emails====
+How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
-=== [[brianrietta]] ===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== "Tough Guys"? ====
-This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
-'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[pom pom]]===
+====hidden frame====
+For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
-===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:pom pom]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Hom Sar Ref====
-On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[part-time job]]===
+====The Answering Room====
+Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.
-====Trial Game origin====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:part-time job]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.
+===[[boring (really)]]===
+====Definitely not the hat, though====
+One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====False Advertising====
+===[[old comics]]===
+====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
+"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
-The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted.  This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+=== [[secret recipes]] ===
-====Special Appearance====
+====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
-Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
-''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
+The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
-====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.
+===[[cheatday]]===
+====Get outta here kid?====
+Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====
+===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
-According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].
+====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
+The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
-'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Tall homestar?====
+===[[Senorial Day]]===
-In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!
+====Old Gron Sad voice?====
+Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
-'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Updated for the 90's====
+====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
-Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.
+The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
-'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
+====Lurking around====
-====Sweating====
+Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
-Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[long pants]]===
+====Senor Shrub====
-====X-Pensive Winos====
+The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
-The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
+====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
-"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.
+Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Edga Jr. removes text?====
+====Oh, what a feeling====
-Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
+The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
-*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs).  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen.  Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
-*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing.  I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed?  In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it.  It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
+===[[time capsule]]===
-When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.
+====Eyes====
+Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
-'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Bedroom Window====
+====Isle of Pom?====
-Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
+The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
-'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Breaking the Lappy====
+===[[long pants]]===
-Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
+====No "la dee la dee la"?====
+Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Old New Intro|Intro]].
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Main Page 6]]===
+====Edga Jr. removes text?====
-====Outta Sync?====
+Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
-Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
-*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
-*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
-**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow.  But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[techno]]===
+===[[monster truck]]===
-====Silent J====
+====Get Back Loretta!====
-Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.
+The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[the bet]]===
+=== [[The Luau]] ===
-====Forgotten Lie====
+==== Reference? ====
-Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
-*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
-*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[That A Ghost]]===
+In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".
-====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
-This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
-*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
-*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
-**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Cory====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
-*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
-*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[best thing]] ===
+=== [[anything]] ===
-====Who is John Bozar?====
-Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.
-:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.
+====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====
-:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.
+"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
-:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.
+=== [[do over]] ===
-*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====Tandy 400 Goofs====
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
-**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons.  I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference.  However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG).  Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid.  Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference.  John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old.  Curse the internet for diseminating false information!  In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory.  Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.
-*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Totally not gettin' old?====
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.
-***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
-**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].
-*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====George W. Stnank====
-**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."
-*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what?  "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Stnank or Not?====
-**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Rudiments ====
+Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
-"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
+====A Type of Bad Grammar====
-It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s>  [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below.  [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]
+This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted.  It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page.  Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== A DV-what? ====
+====Grammatically Incorrect====
-From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item.  It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page.  Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes.  "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right".  Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
-==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
-*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise'''  a bit too wordy...  perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s.  This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with.  Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.
+===[[cheat talk]]===
-The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.
+===To "T" or not to "T"===
-With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.
-*'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== The Claw ====
+===[[Stinkomanual]]===
-One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting.  It appears on the [[best thing]] page.  Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Saargtsson Ltd.====
-==== Background Goof ====
+The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company. ''(revised)''
-When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.
-'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkomanual]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== Babylon 5 ====
+===[[labor day]]===
-"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].'''  (only the part in bold was in question)
-'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====
-=== [[colonization]] ===
+In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.
-==== Until next week... ====
-This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[dragon]] ===
+===[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]===
-==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
+====Music by TMBG?====
-The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
+The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
--Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)
+====555-What?====
-=== [[rock opera]] ===
+The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)
-==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
-"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
-'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== Sender's parents ====
+===[[comic]]===
-Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
+====CORRECTIONED====
+the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
+'''VERDICT.''' Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:comic]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[garage sale]]===
-==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
+====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====
-When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.
-==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[theme park]]===
-==== Order? ====
+====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
-Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
+'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor:  Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003).  In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show).  While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting.  It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate).  The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
+'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
-==== Another brick in the wall ====
+'''VERDICT:''' Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[couch patch]]===
-=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
+====Computer miscommunications====
-In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.
+At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)
-'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:couch patch]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
+===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
-When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"
+====A legendary voice, you screech?====
+The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.
-*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
-*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
-*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
-===[[secret recipes]]===
+===[[Under Construction]]===
-====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
+====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
-Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
+-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
-*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
-**'''Comment''' If he <EM>always</EM> pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"?  Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
-**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Under Construction]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+===[[rampage]]===
-===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
+====rampage easter egg====
-==== The Brethren ====
+At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
-This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
+===[[Main Page 6]]===
-==== Coincedincem ====
+====Outta Sync?====
-According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.
+Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[other days]] ===
+===[[best thing]]===
-==== Tappity Tappity ====
-When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.
-'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]].  --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
+Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
+''(rewrite)''
-==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[radio]] ===
-====German Radio? ====
-Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
-Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting.  It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
-====Location====
-Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====WSBD in Ohio====
-There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[origins]]===
-====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
-Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted.  It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
 ====Cut the Crusts====
 In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
-*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
-*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
-**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know.  Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
-====Se&ntilde;or & Mr.Bland====
-Se&ntilde;or & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.
-*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
-*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[funny]]===
-====409====
-is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted.  Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
-====Poopsmith====
-The Poopsmith never blinks.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Wall Markings====
-According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
-==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
-The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
-*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
-*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
-*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
-**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
-***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
-**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
-*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
-*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
-==== Buck Privates ====
-The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
-==== Starbucks ====
-Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks.  However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
-====Fatty's Big Chance====
+====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
-Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
+"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
-*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it.  Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*&quot;insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about&quot; is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====The Intercom====
+'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Soofa Group?====
-The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to  [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Truk====
-In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk."  Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples.  Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
-At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
-====Fender Guitars====
-During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.
-*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
-*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts.  Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
-* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
-** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
-*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====College Radio====
-What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted.  However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page.  It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
-==== Back Buttons ====
-The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
-*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason.  Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
-*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[island]] ===
-==== Forward referencing # 1 ====
-Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]].  This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].
-'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
-The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[2 years]] ===
-==== Mormon Missionary ====
-E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted.  It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
-According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
-The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics.  It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh.  It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within.  It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked.  Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 === [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
-==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
-The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is  about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ==== Homestar's Clock ====
 It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
-*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock.  Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
-*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
-**You know alot about clocks.
-*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
-*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
-**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
-*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
-*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
-Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].
-'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|<font color=green>acekirby13</font>]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Slippers ====
-Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].
-*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact.  --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-*'''Accept'''  Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable.  And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Blade man ====
-The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].
-*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
-**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
-*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
 ==== Charlie Brown ====
 The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.
-*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
+'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above.  Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant.  However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
-**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-==== Wizard of Oz ====
-Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.
-*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring?  This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley.  It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference.  And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
-***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
-****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
-**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Beat It ====
-Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.
-'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
-[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.
-* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
-**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
-**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
-*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
-*'''Accept'''  This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== Coach Z's Phone ====
-Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].
-*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
-*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
-*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement.  Do not say "similar" or "reference"!
-==== It's odd considering... ====
-It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
 Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
-*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
-*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
-*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen.  We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations.  In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-==== "state trooper" ====
-Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas.  The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]]  Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ==== A running gag? ====
 The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
-* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here.  I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
-* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
-* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
-* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
-**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
-* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
-* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!?  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
 === [[animal]] ===
@@ Line 1,195: / Line 759: @@
 The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
-*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
-**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing.  See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== Off-screen typing ====
-Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.
-*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
-**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time.  I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago.  I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
-***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
-<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
-Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
-on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
-:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
-**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
-*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)
-==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
-When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly.  I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ==== Fanglyfish ====
 The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
-*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 === [[virus]] ===
-====Real virus?====
-Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==== The Number 423,827 ====
-I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.
-'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ==== Drive letter ====
-After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
+After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.
-*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
-*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
 ====The Compy's Reign====
 This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
-*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by <font color="CC3333">-erson</font> ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Blue Laser Babies====
-The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
-*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says.  And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
-The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
-*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
-All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.
-*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
-*'''Very Weak Decline'''  Dunno what to make of this one, really...  It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air.  Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts.  Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this.  It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots.  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
-*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
-*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
-*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg."  Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===
-==== For the little 'uns ====
-All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".
-*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[lackey]]===
-==== Unemployed? ====
-In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).
-*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated.  Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.  <tt><sub><span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span></sub> [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]</sup></tt>  14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises.  Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot.  In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here.  Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then.  We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable.  (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.)  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.  <tt><sub><span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span></sub> [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]</sup></tt>  12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
-==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====
-The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]].  In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.
-'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
-====Strong Bad's Lament?====
-History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.
-'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
-====Most Legible?====
-Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
---[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included.  And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?"  That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible.  It just doesn't make any sense.  Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said."  But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|<sup>THE PAPER</sup>]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most <u>legible</u> thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most <u>intelligible</u> thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed".  Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now.  I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
-**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences.  He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense.  [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
-====Strong Sad's Tape====
-When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-==Games==
-===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
-====Earthbound====
-Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
-*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
-====Two names?====
-When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
-*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
- When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
- Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
---[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
-*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
-*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
-*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement.  '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
-*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook?  It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't.  Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor?  Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
-*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
-====Control Scheme====
-The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the  Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
-'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
-Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-====Stoves====
-Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.
-'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ====More Levels====
 When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".
-*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
+'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
-*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
-====Stone Fist====
-When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!
-*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
-*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Well that depends.  If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
-*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Engrish====
-The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.
-*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
-*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Brody====
-Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.
-*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Tampo====
-The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.
-*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases.  And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline.  Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-====Black Spots====
-Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites
-*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
-*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
- The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
- it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
-*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
-====Wagon Wheel====
-This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
-*'''Accept.'''  I suppose that's interesting.  --67.161.224.65
-*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
-*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
-**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
-*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-== General ==
-=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
-==== Parents ====
-When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
-'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
-:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)