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		+	''It has been [[HRWiki talk:Main page redesign|suggested]] that the Main Page be redesigned. Feel free to use [[HRWiki:Main page redesign|its project page]] for proposed redesigns.''
-	__FORCETOC__	+	== sbemail templates ==
		+	:''See [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#sbemail templates|Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates]]''
-	== It bounces! ==	+	== Trogday decor ==
-	Odd. When I move my mouse over the bar near the top-right corner that says that "log in/create account" stuff it moves all the way to the left. What gives? Also, the edit box has itty-bitty spaces between lines. Odd. -Color Printer, I can't log in for some reason.	+	Does the '''Featured content of the day (or whenever)''' template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to [[dragon]], [[Trogday '08]] and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - [[User:HoveringSombrero|HoveringSombrero]] ([[User talk:HoveringSombrero|talk]]) [[File:Shoulder shoomps.png|23px]]
		+	:It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
-	Uh...that would be your computer, dude. It used to happen on my laptop a lot, but never happens anymore. {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}	+	== How many references do you need? ==
-	Try using a different browser. -Jmoney (to lazy to log in, lol!)	+	How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on [[The Big Lebowski]] has the same amount of references... so do I just make a [[Seinfeld]] page now? ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	:done and done ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	::See our [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|inclusion guidelines]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
-	== Update ==	+	== Songs archive ==
-	*New Quote Of The Week, Weekly Fanstuff, and Sketchbook. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 22:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:Thanks. You win the prize for being first! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	== christmas update? ==	+	Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	:I'm pretty sure we [[Songs|have that covered]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	::Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::No, that's not what the user space is for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
-	Aren't we supposed to update the wiki with a cool, christmas-in-the-homestar-universe-themed skin and logo?--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)	+	== dot dot dot ==
-	:We've never done it before, but then again, we've never done a halloween skin before, either. So I don't see why not. It's a matter of wiki-wide opinion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)	+	Why come whenever I try to link to [[lady…ing]] and [[Cheat Commandos…O's]], the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
-	::I say we go for it. If Halloween gets a skin, Decemberween should too. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)	+	:Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while [[lady…ing]] and [[lady...ing]] may ''look'' the same, they are actually two different typed entries. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
-	:::We will do it. Just need to actually... ''do'' it. Dot com is pretty dang overwhelmed right now, though. You gotta give it to the guy. ''Unless'', somebody with the know-how can design and post some ideas. That would be very helpful. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)	+	::I've added redirects to fix the issue. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
-	::::Near the beginning of the logo redesign discussion, [[User:Bleed0range|Bleed0range]] proposed [[:Image:Hrwiki dween logo.gif|this Decemberween logo]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+	:::Thanks! {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
-	:::::I like it. Any other opinions? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::::::To clarify, I think the one Trey links to above is the way to go. I know another one was recently uploaded which is more like our current logo, with Homestar smiling. But the original seems more fitting to me: less distracting, plus mouth closed kind of makes sense if you're in the snow. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:07, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::I also prefer the one Trey linked to. However, the newest one ([[:Image:Dweenlogo.gif|here]]) has a nice touch that I like: snow sitting on the letters. Unless bleed0range can add the snow to the older one (he explained that it's a difficult task to create these things), I think we should stick with the logo Trey linked to. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	I had a slightly different take on it. Here is [[:Image:HRWiki logo frozen.gif|our current logo frozen over]]. I used elements from our current logo and the ones above. I found the falling snow to be a little too much, so I didn't put it in this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:I like the [[:Image:HRWiki logo frozen.gif|frozen over]] one. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+	== Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual? ==
-	::I want to use the Decemberween logo until the end of Christmas (I'd choose the first one posted), then I would love to switch over to that logo for a while! All great logos, here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::I'd prefer it if we only use one logo. I like the blue background better, but I really like the snow. It's only for a few days, so I don;t think it would be all too distracting.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::::I think we should use the one of the two red & green and falling snow logos until the end of Christmas (and change the "what's new" part of the Main page to green) — after the end of Christmas, go to the frozen-over one. I like them both, but to me, the red & green says "Decemberween" and the frozen one says "winter". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::::To clarify myself and elaborate: [[:Image:Hrwiki dween logo.gif]] until the end of Christmas, then [[:Image:HRWiki logo frozen.gif]] for a while beyond that. Let's compromise, please. Bleedy made a very nice logo and he worked very hard to make it. These are both great Decemberween- and Winter-themed logos, respectively, and I would like to see them both used. Four days of animated falling snow is a very short time, and it deserves at least that much. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::::::Yes, it's best that we don't let something like that go to waste. I suggest that we put it up now. Then change it to the Decemberween logo. And then after that we change it back to the falling snow one until after the New Years. Or we could just try that alternating thing...--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 05:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::Just to clarify: I am calling the falling snow one the Decemberween one. The one It's dot com uploaded I would like to call Winter or Frozen, if I may. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::Reverse what I said. Snow falling one, Decemberween one. The one that Dot com made, could be used until New Years.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 05:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	I think we should take BazookaJoe's suggestion (D'ween colors now; switch to the frozen one after Christmas). The fast falling snow just doesn't look right, so I think we should use the original D'ween one. I wish the one with the slower falling snow looked more like the smiling pose, but oh well. I'm sure it could be tweaked, but given the lateness of the month, I think we should do whatever we're gonna do right away. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:Seconded. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+	[[Strong Bad Email]] has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the [[CGI Paper]] directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the [[@StrongBadActual]] page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	:I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't [[E-mail Birds]], but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my '''SUPPORT'''. ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	::I also '''SUPPORT'''. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
		+	:::, So I '''SUPPORT''' this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
		+	::::Maybe we link to it as <code><nowiki>[[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]]</nowiki></code> and put it above [[Strong Bad Email]] and underneath [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent changes]]? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
		+	::::: GREAT IDEA! I like it! [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
-	Hey, that logo looks really nice, Fantastic. Definitely a good choice. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+	== Editing user pages ==
-	:I concur. And the snowy field background is a nice touch. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+	Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
-	::Ha, love the Archibald in the What's new section. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)	+	:The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}} 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
-	:::Look closely at the other side as well. Adjust the size of your window if necessary. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)	+	::We already have [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|explicit guidelines]] on who can and should edit user pages.  If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done.  Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner.  In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming. There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
-	:What's up with the logo background? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 06:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)	+	== Wiki availability ==
-	Just kinda wonderin', when is the logo going to switch back to normal? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|<span style="color: #800080;">''Brightstar Shiner''</span>]] 21:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:Probably in a day or two &mdash; though it could be up there until Janusry 6th when the [[Wikipedia:Twelve Days of Christmas|Twelve Days of Christmas]] are over. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 21:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::I think the red bars on the main page should be a light icy color.  But I like the logo thing!  {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}	+
-	== Update ==	+	For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
-	*There's a Store update for "Holiday Savings". --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 22:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:Thanks. I just updated the Front Page section at the [[Store]] page earlier today, but I didn't see any changes except for them moving their item list order around (see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=393135&oldid=389132 edit]). The latest changes are pretty well covered on the [[Main Page]], at the bottom of the "what's new" list. Is there anything that I'm missing? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	==Blockquotes for E-mails==	+	:Hey Knights.  Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl.  Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient.  Eventually that goes away as edits taper down.  However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down.  In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all.  I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times.  Hope this helps a tiny bit! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
-	Hey, you should update the e-mail blockquotes to the most recent Strong Bad, found [[Talk:Strong Bad Evolution|here at the very bottom]]--[[User:X66x66|X66x66]] 01:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+	::At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
-	== how long ==	+	=== Still Slow ===
		+	It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August.  In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and [[MW:Manual:Job queue|this mediawiki page]] detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function.  I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested.  The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading).  Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
-	How long has the server been down?  This is the first time that I've been able to get through for awhile. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+	==glitch on the main pages ==
-	:Around 12 hours or so. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::down for maintenance, power outage, or server error? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::Did it take out the Recent Changes IRC channel? 'Cause it's down. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::::The RC bot must've gotten logged out. ...Which could be bad, potentially. I think Phlip runs it, and he won't be back 'til, like, January. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]	+
-	So what exactly happened?  Once I finally check the site again after a long absence the site goes down for <math>1/2</math> day not long after I got here! I promise it wasn't my fault! ;) But Seriously. Inquiring minds would like to know! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:I remember hearing the phrase "blackout at Goleman" and something about "Fellowsites", but that's really all I know. *sweatdrop* --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]	+
-	::Well, I said something like that but it was complete speculation. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	== Maybe it's just me... ==	+	Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
		+	:There's a whole page about this. [[Main Page Glitches]] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
-	Um, is the Decemberween Short Shorts image not coming up for anyone else, or is it just my computer? Everything else on the site is showing up, but on the main page and the page for Decemberween Short Shorts, the image is just not there. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 17:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)	+	== Why does the website still have the Halloween theme? ==
		+	Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --{{User:Cy4nIsN0tB1u3/sig}} 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait [[Decomposing Pumpkins|days after Thanksgiving]]. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
-	:I see it, personally. It may just be you, there. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)	+	==New Fan Stumes’!==
-	::Dag, yo... [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 17:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::It's probably because your computer is blocking that image from showing. It's happened to me already on many pages.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 05:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	::::I think it's because it has "short shorts" in the title. You probably have parental settings on your computer that block that. My parents did it to me before, I couldn't get on the "Teen Girl Squad" pages. :) {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	:::::Ack-haying the parental controls is easier than you might think. Sometimes, all you have to do is bypass them with a different browser. There are also other methods.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 21:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)	+
-	==Fansites==	+	The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
-	Where did the page that lists the fansites go?-Jibney	+
-	:You mean [[Links]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]	+
-	== So many DVDs, so little time ==	+	== Permafrosted logo? ==
-	Back when there was only a small number of DVDs it was simple. Now, with so many for sale, it's a little more confusing for the new fan to know where to find a particular toon on a DVD. For example, the article for [[The System is Down]] does indicate there is DVD commentary, but it does not list which DVD it is on. I'm thinking it easily could indicate that this toon is found on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] in the article. Proposing, as a project for a few industious type people, that (1) somewhere in the article in some way (what that way is should be discussed) that the toon is available on a specific DVD, and/or (2) categories for the contents of each DVD be created.	+	The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon?
		+	Yours truly,
		+	The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. {{unsigned|206.110.189.60|11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC)}}
-	I'm thinking we divide it down to the volume it's contained on. This means there are 4 strongbad_email.exe DVDs and 2 Everything Else DVDs currently. Thoughts, proposals and comments are welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)	+	:I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for {{w|March equinox|at least another month and a half}}. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
-	:Ooh, yes. This needs doing. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)	+	== Load times and potential solutions ==
-	::Good idea &mdash; for the link to the specific DVD, I'm thinking of the heading, so instead of "DVD Version", change it to either "[[Everything Else, Volume 1|DVD]] Version" or "DVD Version ([[Everything Else, Volume 1]])". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)	+	The wiki's been crawling along like something funny that crawls along for about a year now. This hasn't been much more than a minor inconvenience on my end, but it comes up pretty frequently on [https://www.reddit.com/r/HomestarRunner/ the Homestar subreddit], with a concerning number saying they haven't been able to access it at all. [https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hrwiki.org downforeveryoneorjustme.com] consistently insists that the system is down. I don't know what the hosting situation is like, nor am I anything close to an expert on such things, so unfortunately I can't diagnose the issue... But, [[DNA Evidence|after <s>extensive</s> investigation]], I'm ready to release my findings.
		+	*[[Talk:Main Page#Still Slow]] {{--}} A few months ago, [[User:Stux|Stux]] proposed a solution involving MediaWiki's [[mw:Manual:Job queue|job queue]]. Seems like something worth looking into.
		+	*[https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/host-a-website-with-high-availability/ Host a Website with High Availability] {{--}} The wiki's web host Linode features a guide on how to host a website with high availability. I can understand at most seven words of this, and I'm not sure how well it applies to wikis, but it might be helpful to someone. (They also have guides for [https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/security/ssl/ enabling HTTPS], which improves security... Maybe performance too, but I've heard mixed things about that.)
		+	*[[Special:Version]] {{--}} The wiki is currently powered by MediaWiki 1.15, which released in 2011. Later versions have added collapsible elements, citation features, slideshow galleries, an optional visual editor interface, the ability to rename categories, and most relevant to this particular discussion, [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader improved performance]. The current stable release is 1.41.
		+	*[[HRWiki:Donations]] {{--}} I just discovered that [[HRWiki:2011 Server Move|the wiki moved servers in 2011]] to cut back on expenses, which [[HRWiki talk:2011 Server Move#Slowness|apparently resulted in slower load times]] (at least initially, while settings were still being optimized). According to [[Special:Ledger]], there haven't been any donations since then (additionally, it still lists FellowSites hosting dues instead of the new host). I've seen multiple people offering to donate if they could, so if the more recent slowness is once again a financial issue, it might help to [https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/article/ts2067 get the donation links working again].
		+	*{{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&group=developer Special:ListUsers&group=developer}} {{--}} I have no way of knowing how actively people have been working on maintaining backend stuff, but I can see that of the six developers, only [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] and [[User:Tom|Tom]] have been editing consistently since 2016. I realize I'm asking quite a lot of two people at most, and I really don't want to be too demanding... so I can't help but wonder if my suggestions might seem more reasonable if there were more people responsible for backend maintenance. I'm not qualified for that sort of thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were active users with MediaWiki and/or web development experience. As much as I want this wiki to be accessible to more people, I really don't want anyone losing sleep over it.
		+	Anyway, sorry I can't offer more help than this, but I hope someone finds this stuff useful (and that I didn't get anything terribly wrong)! {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 01:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Out of curiosity, I decided to use [[Special:Statistics]] and the WayBack Machine to calculate roughly how many people have been affected by the slow load times. After comparing the last seven months (from around the start of the slowdowns to now) to the seven months prior, I found that the average number of edits per day has decreased from 22 to 14, and the average number of active users has dropped from 27 to 17. That's a 37% decrease in ''both'' areas, leading me to believe they are linked by a common cause...
		+	:Unfortunately I couldn't figure out if that percentage corresponded to anything specific, like "37% of people use this certain type of Internet connection"... That information would tell me which people are having problems accessing the wiki, and from there I might be able to research a potential solution, assuming any of that works the way I think it does. Maybe I'll do an off-site poll somewhere, but I'd need to know what information would be most pertinent to ask... Would that be helpful at all? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 05:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
-	:::Perhaps it should go up in the main headers. I think the name of the DVD should be spelled out, not hidden in a piped link. Whatever system we come up with, it needs to be easily expandable to incorporate future DVDs. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)	+	Wait a minute, it seems fine now. What happened? {{unsigned|71.195.40.33|08:25, November 15, 2024 (UTC)}}
-	::::Oh, so you mean something like this:	+	== Availability of the wiki over https ==
-	<div style="border:1px solid #CCC; padding:4px; margin: 0 8px; width: 45em">	+
-	'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Bubs]]	+
-	'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]	+	Are there any plans to upgrade the wiki from http to https?
-		+	--{{User:UN_TACO/sig}} 00:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
-	'''Date:''' January 22, 2003	+
-		+
-	'''Running Time:''' 1:05	+
-		+
-	'''Page Title:''' 404 Doodoo Error	+
-		+
-	'''DVD Version:''' [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]	+
-	</div>	+
-	::::That's a good idea too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::I like Trey's format. I additionally volunteer to get a few done, when the time comes. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::::::With so many DVD's, I think that this fromat will come in handy. I don't really like "DVD Version" though. Maybe just plain "DVD"? I also offer my services when we put this in place. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:I like the idea. I want to pair up both Trey's format and DVD-specific categories. One stipulation: Any toons that are not DVD-only could maybe have the '''DVD Version:''' line go directly underneath the "DVD Version" section. I also would like to split the categories ([[:Category:strongbad_email.exe DVD|[1]]], [[:Category:Everything Else DVD|[2]]]) into Category:strongbad_email.exe Disc 1; strongbad_email.exe Disc 2; strongbad_email.exe Disc 3; strongbad_email.exe Disc 4; Everything Else, Volume 1; and Everything Else, Volume 2. So maybe we should make a template similar to {{[[Template:Comp|Comp]]}} that will automagically include the category with the line. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::Would '''DVD version''' be confused with regional formats? Is there a better wording? Maybe '''Included on DVD:'''? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::I was also thinking that '''DVD Version:''' could be confusing. I was thinking of just plain '''DVD:''', but whatever works. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::::Yeah, DVD is just vaguely specific enough to be perfect. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::'''DVD:''' works. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::::::Sounds good to me too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::/me likes it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::We could have '''DVD:''' and '''DVD exclusive:''' to make it more obvious what kind of toon it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::Great idea &mdash; that will make it clear which ones are web-only, DVD-only, and both. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	:Last thing to figure out before we make all the changes: does the "'''DVD:'''" heading go at the very top of the page (along with page title, running time, etc.), or underneath the "DVD Version" header? I say, put it at the very top of the page &mdash; that way you can see exactly where you can view the toon without having to read to the bottom.  I know there are times in the past where I've had trouble figuring out on a page whether the toon could be viewed on the web or not. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	::What should the category be? "[Name of DVD] Features"? "[Name of DVD] Contents"? "[Name of DVD] Toons" doesn't seem to fit, because not everything is a toon. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::Why even put Contents/Features into the category title? Isn't it implied? Could be. Someone comes across the category at the bottom of a toon's page and infers that that category has everything related to the DVD disc, including all other toons... because that toon is already in the category. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::::Yes, I think that's a good idea. See the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=400857 current sandbox}}. In addition, I think the encompassing categories need to be changed to '''strongbad_email.exe DVD series''' and '''Everything Else DVD series''' (or with '''Series''' capitalized in both cases) instead of just '''DVD'''. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	:::::I like the ideas and everything, but why do we need the word "series" for? I like the plain name categories more. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::::::Because Everything Else isn't just one DVD, and neither is strongbad_email.exe. They are each a series of DVDs, and the category name should reflect that. [[:Category:Everything Else DVD|These]] [[:Category:strongbad_email.exe DVD|two]] categories are the ones I'm suggesting need a name change. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::Lest we forget - is there further discussion needed here, or should a plan of action ensue? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	::::::::The two things that I'm not sure whether we decided are (1) does the data go at the top of the page or under "DVD Version"? and (2) what should the names of the categories be?  I haven't been following the second question, but as soon as we figure out the first question, we can start adding in the templates (cats can be sorted out as the templates are being added).  I think the consensus has been leaning towards the top of the page, but it's not entirely clear to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::::Top sounds good. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]	+
-	::::::::::I also think that makes the most sense.  That way the reader can see from the very top of the page whether the toon is web-only, DVD-only, or both.  I'm gonna get started on adding the templates to the sbemails. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::::::Gotta be the top, that's where people would look. And I'm for sub-categories. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	Okay, the template has been added to the four [[strongbad_email.exe]] disks, which the exception of a few issues we found while looking through the bonus features:	+
-	:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[Email Intros]]	+
-	:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[Scroll Button Songs (video)]]	+
-	:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[KaraokeFun#strongbad_email.exe_Disc_Two|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two Karaoke videos]]	+
-	:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[Secret Song (video)]]	+
-	:{{done}} Create [[Moving Very Slowly (video)]]	+
-	:{{done}} Create [[The Cheatar (making of)]] &mdash; title may not be best, check with DVD first	+
-	:{{done}} Check out the The Cheatar egg on [[strongbad email.exe Disc Two]]. Anything more to do here?	+
-	:{{todo}} Make sure the right thing was done in keeping the titles on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] bonus features.	+
-	Next up: [[Everything Else]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:I think we need to create the category pages for this project. I like the way it is now (the name of the category is the name of the disc). And I still think that [[:Category:Everything Else, Volume 1]] and [[:Category:Everything Else, Volume 2]] need to go in [[:Category:Everything Else DVD Series]] (or something similar, instead of what we currently have, which is just plain "DVD"), to emphasize the fact that it's not just one DVD, but several in a set. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::I'll do it. I love category-making. What should it say in description? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]	+
-	:::I've also noticed that a lot of these pages need to have the obsolete categories ''removed'', but so far they haven't been. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	*I'm a little late on this, but I finished all of the Everything Else DVD templates.  Glad to help out. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 06:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Wii ==	+
-		+
-	Just letting you peoples know both the main site and this wiki run on nintendo Wii's opera browser problem free ('cept for the popup easter eggs but that can't be helped). [[User:220.245.178.136|220.245.178.136]] 10:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:What?? {{User:The thing/sig}} 14:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::He's saying that both this site and [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]] work with the Wii's [[Wikipedia:Internet Channel (Wii)|Internet Channel]]. Although I already [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=396936 figured this out a couple of weeks ago]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 14:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Somethin new... ==	+
-	I don't remember if this was there b4, but if you rollover Quote of the week, and that stuff, the name of the fanstuff is shown right below it. Was this there before? ~Strong Devon {{unsigned|63.230.104.26|21:19, 7 January 2007}}	+
-		+
-	:Yeah, I remember that happening before, I don't think it's new. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== New update ==	+
-		+
-	Weeklies ave been updated. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 16:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Background ==	+
-		+
-	It looks like the background is a JPG. At first I thought it was that way because of mediawiki, but during the holidays, the background was most certainly a PNG. Is there a reason, or should it be changed? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Update ==	+
-	*There's a store update for a "Trogday" sale. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 22:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:Thanks. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== HELP ==	+
-	I forgot my password so I can't log in! My username is X66x66--[[User:68.100.182.44|68.100.182.44]] 04:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	:I've set your email address to the one you used at the forum. You should be able to send yourself a new password using the [[Special:Userlogin|login form]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-	::Thanks for the e-mail! I got in finally.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 23:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Update ==	+
-	new main page message, Sbemails Return Next Week.	+
-		+
-	== Little Question ==	+
-		+
-	Is [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10623 this] relevant to the wiki, or is it too soon to tell? I'm pretty sure it's genuine. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	:I wouldn't say it deserves it's own page, but I'd say it's certainly worth a mention on the [[Craig Zobel]] article. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 02:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	::I've added it in the meantime ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Okay, this has gone tooooooooo far. ==	+
-		+
-	You keep using [[Wikipedia:Parody|that word]] waayyyyyyyyy toooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuch, even when other words like "spoof" or "reference" would be appropriate. I swear that if you looked it up in the Dictionary of the HRWiki, it'd say "See GOD" right next to it. Honestly, you use it like it's the Bible or something. This website alone is what made me consider that word in the league with "da**" and "sh**". Please change as many instances of this word as possible. {{unsigned|76.184.188.124|13:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)}}	+
-		+
-	:Just to be clear, you're griping about the word [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/parody parody], corrcect? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	::according to [http://dictionary.reference.com/ dictionary.com]	+
-	::*Parody: any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.	+
-	::*Spoof: a mocking imitation of someone or something, usually light and good-humored; lampoon or '''parody'''.	+
-	::according to [http://thesaurus.reference.com/ thesaurus.com]	+
-	::*Synonyms of parody: caricature, farce, girlie show, lampoon, lampoonery, mock, mockery, parody, pastiche, peep show, revue, satire, send-up, sham, skin show, '''spoof''', strip, takeoff, travesty	+
-	::*Synonyms of Spoof:  bluff, bon mot, burlesque, caricature, cheat, deceit, deception, fake, flimflam, game, hoax, imposture, jest, joke, lampoon, mockery, '''parody''', phony, prank, put-on, quip, satire, sell, send-up*, sham, take-off, travesty, trickery, wisecrack	+
-	::{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)	+

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Contents 1 sbemail templates 2 Trogday decor 3 How many references do you need? 4 Songs archive 5 dot dot dot 6 Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual? 7 Editing user pages 8 Wiki availability 8.1 Still Slow 9 glitch on the main pages 10 Why does the website still have the Halloween theme? 11 New Fan Stumes’! 12 Permafrosted logo? 13 Load times and potential solutions 14 Availability of the wiki over https

[edit] sbemail templates

See Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates

[edit] Trogday decor

Does the Featured content of the day (or whenever) template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to dragon, Trogday '08 and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — It's dot com 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

[edit] How many references do you need?

How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on The Big Lebowski has the same amount of references... so do I just make a Seinfeld page now? ----J∃ffJMan 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

done and done ----J∃ffJMan 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

See our inclusion guidelines. — It's dot com 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Songs archive

Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure we have that covered. — It's dot com 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

No, that's not what the user space is for. — It's dot com 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] dot dot dot

Why come whenever I try to link to lady…ing and Cheat Commandos…O's, the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? — HoveringSombrero (talk)

Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while lady…ing and lady...ing may look the same, they are actually two different typed entries. -- Bleu Ninja 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I've added redirects to fix the issue. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! — HoveringSombrero (talk)

[edit] Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual?

Strong Bad Email has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the CGI Paper directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the @StrongBadActual page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. -- Bleu Ninja 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't E-mail Birds, but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my SUPPORT. ----J∃ffJMan 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I also SUPPORT. — HoveringSombrero (talk)

, So I SUPPORT this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Maybe we link to it as [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]] and put it above Strong Bad Email and underneath Recent changes? — HoveringSombrero (talk)

GREAT IDEA! I like it! I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Editing user pages

Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. — HoveringSombrero (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

We already have explicit guidelines on who can and should edit user pages. If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done. Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner. In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming. There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this. --Stux 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki availability

For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? The Knights Who Say Ni 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey Knights. Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl. Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient. Eventually that goes away as edits taper down. However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down. In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all. I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times. Hope this helps a tiny bit! --Stux 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. DEI DAT VM^┌_{datvm center}\^{super contra}_┘ 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Still Slow

It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August. In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and this mediawiki page detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function. I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested. The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading). Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --Stux 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

[edit] glitch on the main pages

Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

There's a whole page about this. Main Page Glitches Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Why does the website still have the Halloween theme?

Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --Cy4nIsN0tB1u3 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait days after Thanksgiving. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- 68.37.43.131 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] New Fan Stumes’!

The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Permafrosted logo?

The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon? Yours truly, The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. — 206.110.189.60 (Talk | contribs) 11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for at least another month and a half. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~) -- Bleu Ninja 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

[edit] Load times and potential solutions

The wiki's been crawling along like something funny that crawls along for about a year now. This hasn't been much more than a minor inconvenience on my end, but it comes up pretty frequently on the Homestar subreddit, with a concerning number saying they haven't been able to access it at all. downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently insists that the system is down. I don't know what the hosting situation is like, nor am I anything close to an expert on such things, so unfortunately I can't diagnose the issue... But, after extensive investigation, I'm ready to release my findings.

• Talk:Main Page#Still Slow — A few months ago, Stux proposed a solution involving MediaWiki's job queue. Seems like something worth looking into.
• Host a Website with High Availability — The wiki's web host Linode features a guide on how to host a website with high availability. I can understand at most seven words of this, and I'm not sure how well it applies to wikis, but it might be helpful to someone. (They also have guides for enabling HTTPS, which improves security... Maybe performance too, but I've heard mixed things about that.)
• Special:Version — The wiki is currently powered by MediaWiki 1.15, which released in 2011. Later versions have added collapsible elements, citation features, slideshow galleries, an optional visual editor interface, the ability to rename categories, and most relevant to this particular discussion, improved performance. The current stable release is 1.41.
• HRWiki:Donations — I just discovered that the wiki moved servers in 2011 to cut back on expenses, which apparently resulted in slower load times (at least initially, while settings were still being optimized). According to Special:Ledger, there haven't been any donations since then (additionally, it still lists FellowSites hosting dues instead of the new host). I've seen multiple people offering to donate if they could, so if the more recent slowness is once again a financial issue, it might help to get the donation links working again.
• Special:ListUsers&group=developer — I have no way of knowing how actively people have been working on maintaining backend stuff, but I can see that of the six developers, only It's dot com and Tom have been editing consistently since 2016. I realize I'm asking quite a lot of two people at most, and I really don't want to be too demanding... so I can't help but wonder if my suggestions might seem more reasonable if there were more people responsible for backend maintenance. I'm not qualified for that sort of thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were active users with MediaWiki and/or web development experience. As much as I want this wiki to be accessible to more people, I really don't want anyone losing sleep over it.

Anyway, sorry I can't offer more help than this, but I hope someone finds this stuff useful (and that I didn't get anything terribly wrong)! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, I decided to use Special:Statistics and the WayBack Machine to calculate roughly how many people have been affected by the slow load times. After comparing the last seven months (from around the start of the slowdowns to now) to the seven months prior, I found that the average number of edits per day has decreased from 22 to 14, and the average number of active users has dropped from 27 to 17. That's a 37% decrease in both areas, leading me to believe they are linked by a common cause...

Unfortunately I couldn't figure out if that percentage corresponded to anything specific, like "37% of people use this certain type of Internet connection"... That information would tell me which people are having problems accessing the wiki, and from there I might be able to research a potential solution, assuming any of that works the way I think it does. Maybe I'll do an off-site poll somewhere, but I'd need to know what information would be most pertinent to ask... Would that be helpful at all? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait a minute, it seems fine now. What happened? — 71.195.40.33 (Talk | contribs) 08:25, November 15, 2024 (UTC) (left unsigned)

[edit] Availability of the wiki over https

Are there any plans to upgrade the wiki from http to https? --UN TACO 00:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)