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== PNG Apple Screencaps ==
 
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I just got a new MacBook, and I must know: how do I convert screencaps from JPEG to PNG without MS Paint? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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''It has been [[HRWiki talk:Main page redesign|suggested]] that the Main Page be redesigned. Feel free to use [[HRWiki:Main page redesign|its project page]] for proposed redesigns.''
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:First you right-click.-[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.37|132.183.138.37]] 00:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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::What program can I use to convert the picture? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 00:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::A screenshot (if that's what you mean) is usually taken in a PNG format (somehow I got my old PowerBook G4 to take TIFF screenshots, unfortunately I don't know how I did it), so I don't exactly get the "JPEG to PNG" part of it. But, here are your instructions:
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:::1. Open up Preview (Found in /Applications/, or just access "Applications" in the Finder's sidebar.
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:::2. File > Open and then choose your image. It may be a time saver to have the folder open with the image in it, so you can just drag it into the file selector. It may also be a good idea just to Preview into the Dock, so that you can just drag the file on the program's icon for it to open.
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:::3. Go to File > Save As... and choose the file format you wish to save it in.
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:::4. Ta Da!
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:::It should be the Save As menu item that did it, but I don't remember. I haven't used my Mac in a long time due to a couple technical issues I'm not willing to fix yet. :P --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 00:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::What can I use to fill in the corners? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::You have a lot of different options. Probably the best cheap option would be [http://seashore.sourceforge.net/ Seashore], a simpler implementation of GIMP (a free version of Photoshop).  {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 02:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::::I have a Mac, and what I do is just on the desktop file, change the name of the file so instead of "picture.png" it's "picture.jpeg."  It's that easy!  (Although for obvious reasons it won't work when changing more complex files).  {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 02:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::That doesn't change the file format... it just changes the extension... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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Oh.  Yeah, I know next to nothing about all this stuff, so I should probably just shut up.  {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Protect the 8-Bit is Enough Logo ==
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== sbemail templates ==
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:''See [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#sbemail templates|Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates]]''
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The header speaks for itself. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Trogday decor ==
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:Done. Next time, you should contact a sysop via IRC for transitory requests like this. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Need for a "see" template? ==
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Does the '''Featured content of the day (or whenever)''' template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to [[dragon]], [[Trogday '08]] and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - [[User:HoveringSombrero|HoveringSombrero]] ([[User talk:HoveringSombrero|talk]]) [[File:Shoulder shoomps.png|23px]]
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:It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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Should we create a template for "''See [[Special:Random|whatever]]''"? It seems that I have done a lot of this recently. Would there be a need for it? --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 23:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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== How many references do you need? ==
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:We already have such a template: [[:Template:for]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 00:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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::No, I mean just "See whatever" not "For the whatever, see thisever". --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 01:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::Oh, it sounds like the thing we can just type ourselves. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 04:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::BBG, i think you're missing the point. He's talking about what appears [[Hooked on Decemberween#Transcript|here]] for example. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::I'm still not convinced a template is necessary.  With all the curved brackets, a template might be slightly more work typing than necessary. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 15:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::::<code><nowiki>:''See [[X]]''</nowiki></code> vs. <code><nowiki>{{see|X}}</nowiki></code>. Not a huge improvement, but potentially useful if it's used enough. How many instances that use this exact formatting are we talking about here? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::I think that it kinda defeats the purpose if the template just replaces braces with italics... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::::::I went ahead and made a template anyway. ''See {{t|see}}'' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::::I saw, and i don't think it really adds anything except server load. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::::::::That only comes into play when a page is being cached. The hundreds of signature templates we allow are far worse on the server, and so server load shouldn't be a consideration on whether we use this template. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::::::Did you at least get his main point that this is a pretty superfluous template? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 20:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::::::::::Yes. That's why in a previous post I said, "Not a huge improvement, but potentially useful if it's used enough. How many instances that use this exact formatting are we talking about here?" &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::::::::Just to clarify, the server load thing was a minor joke. I wasn't seriously saying it was a consideration. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Decemberween theme? ==
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How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on [[The Big Lebowski]] has the same amount of references... so do I just make a [[Seinfeld]] page now? ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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Is there not going to be a Decemberween theme here with the snowflakes and such? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 08:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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:done and done ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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::See our [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|inclusion guidelines]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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== If there's nothing new on Monday... ==
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== Songs archive ==
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Could we replace the 8-Bit is Enough Logo with the burninated Strong Badia picture? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 18:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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:I haven't had a chance to play the game yet, and have been avoiding our articles on the subject. Thanks for spoiling that part for me. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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:I'm pretty sure we [[Songs|have that covered]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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::It happens in like the first 5-10 minutes of the game.
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::Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::No, that's not what the user space is for. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::yeah.  BBG, not the best idea.  not everyone on here has the game yet.  {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 13:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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== dot dot dot ==
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== Wrong FA for Week 53, 2008/Week 1, 2009 ==
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Why come whenever I try to link to [[lady…ing]] and [[Cheat Commandos…O's]], the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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:Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while [[lady…ing]] and [[lady...ing]] may ''look'' the same, they are actually two different typed entries. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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::I've added redirects to fix the issue. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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:::Thanks! {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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Due to the remainder week, it looks like FA rolled back to week 1, 2008 [[Nebulon]], rather than the [[winter pool]] article.  I've created a Week 53 alias, but could a sysop fix the error? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 02:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual? ==
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:Yeah... [[Wikipedia:ISO 8601#Week dates|Technically]], we're already in 2009 Week 1, even though we're still in 2008... so &#123;{CURRENTWEEK}} is 1, but &#123;{CURRENTYEAR}} is still 2008, since it is still 2008. I'll see what I can do to make it more accurate. {{User:Phlip/sig}}
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::There we go... looks like it's working now. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:08, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::Spiffy solution there.  Should the W53 alias now be deleted, since it's not needed? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Filter ==
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[[Strong Bad Email]] has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the [[CGI Paper]] directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the [[@StrongBadActual]] page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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:I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't [[E-mail Birds]], but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my '''SUPPORT'''. ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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::I also '''SUPPORT'''. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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:::, So I '''SUPPORT''' this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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::::Maybe we link to it as <code><nowiki>[[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]]</nowiki></code> and put it above [[Strong Bad Email]] and underneath [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent changes]]? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
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::::: GREAT IDEA! I like it! [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Got another questionable page. http://www.homestarrunner.com/filter.swf Anybody have any idea what that's for? It redirects to [[run2x]].<br><br>More mysterious and not-so-mysterious pages:
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== Editing user pages ==
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* http://web.archive.org/web/20030604125126/homestarrunner.com/__utm.js
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* http://homestarrunner.com/sbsign.swf
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* http://www.homestarrunner.com/AC_RunActiveContent.js {{User:The thing/sig}} 04:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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:any ideas? {{User:The thing/sig}} 20:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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:AC_RunActiveContent.js is a Javascript script that does... things... similar to what SwfObject and UFO do (embedding SWFs). The Brothers Chaps were probably going to use it, but they just use the &lt;embed&gt; tag. {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 00:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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::[[Secret Pages#Other Animations|the sign]] is already known. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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== SVGs ==
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Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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:The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}} 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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::We already have [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|explicit guidelines]] on who can and should edit user pages.  If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done.  Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner.  In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming.  There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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Why were SVGs disabled? I mean, is there anything wrong with SVGs? Because I was trying to upload [http://htwins.net/SM_m.svg this] SVG that I wrote (my first SVG!) to replace Strong_Mad's_M.PNG. {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Wiki availability ==
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:It's not so much that we've ''disabled'' SVGs, more that we haven't bothered to ''enable'' them. Mostly because the large majority of the images we upload are screenshots of H*R cartoons... so, while an SVG would be good (the Flash toons are vector art too, after all), it takes considerably more effort, and is much more likely to be inaccurate, than just taking a screenshot and uploading it as a PNG. Making it an SVG would involve either tracing a screenshot in an SVG tool (lot of effort, likely to not quite match the original) or exporting an SVG from Flash (also a lot of effort, would require a decompiler and a working version of Flash, and I'm not even sure if Flash ''does'' have an export to SVG option). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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::Still, if people want to do it, it's their trouble to go to, as from the administrative side, it's as simple as modifying one line in PHP to allow them. In my opinion, it's worth giving people the option, as i can only see it helping the wiki. (I'd really like to see svg exports of the [[Quote of the Week Character Heads]] as the gallery stretches them and makes them appear distorted currently.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::Well, to tell you the truth, I don't know why we need to use svgs. It may work for Wikipedia, but I wouldn't really relate us to them. {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 02:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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::::This has nothing to do with wikipedia. I already stated that i can't imagine any harm coming from it, AND gave an example of somewhere it would do some GOOD... I think that's all we need. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Sure, I have no problem with them being enabled... I just don't want to see them getting popular to the point that Average Joe Wiki User can't upload a screenshot of the new toon without SVGitising it first. As long as PNG is still the standard, it doesn't worry me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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::::::Oh, and I think I might remember why SVG is disabled... before [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 27#What HAppened Today?|the server move]] we did a while ago, we were using a rather old version of ImageMagick... I remember some tweaks had to be made to MediaWiki to get it to work properly. I have a feeling that, because of its age, it couldn't handle SVGs, or reacted badly to them in some way... I'm not sure of the details though, it's been a while. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::::I'll look into what it would take to enable SVGs the next time we upgrade (it's probably as simple as just enabling a variable). I would want any SVGs used in articles to have gone the decompiler route rather than the trace route. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Hey ==
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For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hi everyone. Just joined the wiki. I probably wont
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be much help, but I'll do what I can. (Hope this is a fine spot,
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should have posted in The Stick) {{User:Kid2255/sig}}
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:Hey Kid2255. Welcome! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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::wait, he just joined and already has a sig?  it took me months to get minewell, maybe i suck at wiki-ing and not him too smarti'm kinda stupid, for those of you who noticedMichaelXX2 does my sigs and other formatting i can't freaking figure out for the life of mehe's nice that way...usuallywell, hi kid2255.  {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 20:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Hey Knights.  Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawlPages still load but they take forever and one must be patientEventually that goes away as edits taper down.  However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is downIn your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at allI'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit timesHope this helps a tiny bit! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
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:::I copied my sig from another wiki. {{User:Kid2255/sig}} 00:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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::At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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== main page glitch? or my computer sucking? ==
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=== Still Slow ===
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It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August.  In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and [[MW:Manual:Job queue|this mediawiki page]] detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function. I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested.  The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading).  Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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on the homestar site, the QOTW doesn't play/get and the fanstuff and sketchbook say things that they are not.  for example: the cheat on a cell phone with a picture of a chainsaw car; undead sheep and plutis and bubs pics.  is this me or the site?  thanks, {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 19:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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==glitch on the main pages ==
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:Well, it's [[#Weeklies Promblem|not just you]] (I have this issue too), but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the site either. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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::oh, so nobody has a clue now?  well, i guess not.  i also would've posted there if i saw it.  {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 21:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Contents... ==
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Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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:There's a whole page about this. [[Main Page Glitches]] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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== Why does the website still have the Halloween theme? ==
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[[User:Kid2255|<font color="green">Kid2255</font>]] [[User talk:Kid2255|<font color="green">Talk</font>]] 23:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --{{User:Cy4nIsN0tB1u3/sig}} 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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::<nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki>"Contents" like this? {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 23:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait [[Decomposing Pumpkins|days after Thanksgiving]]. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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== Pictures ==
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==New Fan Stumes’!==
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How do I add my own pictures to my user page?---[[User:Record307|Record307]]
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== Extra &lt;/ul&gt; and &lt;/li&gt; closing tags? ==
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The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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Does anybody know why MediaWiki is generating unnecessary closing &lt;/ul&gt; and &lt;/li&gt; tags after lists? Because I'm noticing a lot of them in several pages. {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 03:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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== Permafrosted logo? ==
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:It's always good to be as close as possible to [[Wikipedia:XHTML|XHTML]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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::Yes, I know about XHTML and self-closing tags and all that stuff. What I mean was this: &mdash; {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 20:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::Which page was that?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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::::[[Happy Hallow-Day]]. {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 03:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::If you suppress the TOC, the page validates fine. Other pages, like [[New Boots]], also validate fine. Puzzling. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
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::::::Playing around, it looks like if the second-last heading has a subheading (as in the DVD Version section in [[Happy Hallow-Day]]), but the last heading doesn't, then it puts in the extra close tags. That may or may not be the only situation that it happens, but it seems to fit what I've seen so far... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
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== HRWiki has more than 2 problems? ==
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The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon?
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The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. {{unsigned|206.110.189.60|11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC)}}
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This explains it: [[Image:More_than_2.JPG]]
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:I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for {{w|March equinox|at least another month and a half}}. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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:::::::I actually wrote the line intending it to be read however you wanted to read it, because it works either way. On the one hand the highlighting is crazy, but on the other hand it's so crazy it's awesome. So if you're reading what I wrote as sarcastic, then that's because that's what you choose to see. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::::::I think my intent is actually transferred ''best'' through text. In another medium (speaking aloud, for example), my inflection would color how my words are perceived, but in plain text, it's easier to be ambiguous and allow the reader to draw his or her own interpretation, especially because the comment was tangential to the true point of the thread. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
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The wiki's been crawling along like something funny that crawls along for about a year now. This hasn't been much more than a minor inconvenience on my end, but it comes up pretty frequently on [https://www.reddit.com/r/HomestarRunner/ the Homestar subreddit], with a concerning number saying they haven't been able to access it at all. [https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hrwiki.org downforeveryoneorjustme.com] consistently insists that the system is down. I don't know what the hosting situation is like, nor am I anything close to an expert on such things, so unfortunately I can't diagnose the issue... But, [[DNA Evidence|after <s>extensive</s> investigation]], I'm ready to release my findings.
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:We don't know. Why don't you [[email]] TBC and ask them. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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*[[Talk:Main Page#Still Slow]] {{--}} A few months ago, [[User:Stux|Stux]] proposed a solution involving MediaWiki's [[mw:Manual:Job queue|job queue]]. Seems like something worth looking into.
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*[https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/host-a-website-with-high-availability/ Host a Website with High Availability] {{--}} The wiki's web host Linode features a guide on how to host a website with high availability. I can understand at most seven words of this, and I'm not sure how well it applies to wikis, but it might be helpful to someone. (They also have guides for [https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/security/ssl/ enabling HTTPS], which improves security... Maybe performance too, but I've heard mixed things about that.)
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*[[Special:Version]] {{--}} The wiki is currently powered by MediaWiki 1.15, which released in 2011. Later versions have added collapsible elements, citation features, slideshow galleries, an optional visual editor interface, the ability to rename categories, and most relevant to this particular discussion, [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader improved performance]. The current stable release is 1.41.
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*[[HRWiki:Donations]] {{--}} I just discovered that [[HRWiki:2011 Server Move|the wiki moved servers in 2011]] to cut back on expenses, which [[HRWiki talk:2011 Server Move#Slowness|apparently resulted in slower load times]] (at least initially, while settings were still being optimized). According to [[Special:Ledger]], there haven't been any donations since then (additionally, it still lists FellowSites hosting dues instead of the new host). I've seen multiple people offering to donate if they could, so if the more recent slowness is once again a financial issue, it might help to [https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/article/ts2067 get the donation links working again].
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:Unfortunately I couldn't figure out if that percentage corresponded to anything specific, like "37% of people use this certain type of Internet connection"... That information would tell me which people are having problems accessing the wiki, and from there I might be able to research a potential solution, assuming any of that works the way I think it does. Maybe I'll do an off-site poll somewhere, but I'd need to know what information would be most pertinent to ask... Would that be helpful at all? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 05:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::You guys all remind me of the following people: [http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mba/lowres/mban1433l.jpg] [http://icommons.org/_overblog/img/1196846773_the_end_is_near_web.jpg] [http://cartoonbank.com/assets/1/33225_m.gif] [http://blog.guidetocinema.com/images/the_end_is_near.gif] Please, stop it already. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::::Well, [[Wikipedia: Rorshach (comics)|this guy]], but if you haven't read watchmen you won't understand the reference. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] sbemail templates

See Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates

[edit] Trogday decor

Does the Featured content of the day (or whenever) template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to dragon, Trogday '08 and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — It's dot com 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

[edit] How many references do you need?

How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on The Big Lebowski has the same amount of references... so do I just make a Seinfeld page now? ----J∃ffJMan 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

done and done ----J∃ffJMan 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
See our inclusion guidelines. — It's dot com 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Songs archive

Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure we have that covered. — It's dot com 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
No, that's not what the user space is for. — It's dot com 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] dot dot dot

Why come whenever I try to link to lady…ing and Cheat Commandos…O's, the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? — HoveringSombrero (talk)

Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while lady…ing and lady...ing may look the same, they are actually two different typed entries. -- Bleu Ninja 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
I've added redirects to fix the issue. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! — HoveringSombrero (talk)

[edit] Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual?

Strong Bad Email has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the CGI Paper directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the @StrongBadActual page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. -- Bleu Ninja 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't E-mail Birds, but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my SUPPORT. ----J∃ffJMan 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
I also SUPPORT. — HoveringSombrero (talk)
, So I SUPPORT this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Maybe we link to it as [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]] and put it above Strong Bad Email and underneath Recent changes? — HoveringSombrero (talk)
GREAT IDEA! I like it! I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Editing user pages

Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. — HoveringSombrero (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
We already have explicit guidelines on who can and should edit user pages. If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done. Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner. In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming. There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this. --Stux 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki availability

For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? The Knights Who Say Ni 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey Knights. Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl. Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient. Eventually that goes away as edits taper down. However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down. In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all. I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times. Hope this helps a tiny bit! --Stux 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Still Slow

It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August. In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and this mediawiki page detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function. I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested. The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading). Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --Stux 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

[edit] glitch on the main pages

Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

There's a whole page about this. Main Page Glitches Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Why does the website still have the Halloween theme?

Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --Cy4nIsN0tB1u3 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait days after Thanksgiving. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- 68.37.43.131 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] New Fan Stumes’!

The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Permafrosted logo?

The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon? Yours truly, The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. — 206.110.189.60 (Talk | contribs) 11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for at least another month and a half. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~) -- Bleu Ninja 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

[edit] Load times and potential solutions

The wiki's been crawling along like something funny that crawls along for about a year now. This hasn't been much more than a minor inconvenience on my end, but it comes up pretty frequently on the Homestar subreddit, with a concerning number saying they haven't been able to access it at all. downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently insists that the system is down. I don't know what the hosting situation is like, nor am I anything close to an expert on such things, so unfortunately I can't diagnose the issue... But, after extensive investigation, I'm ready to release my findings.

  • Talk:Main Page#Still Slow — A few months ago, Stux proposed a solution involving MediaWiki's job queue. Seems like something worth looking into.
  • Host a Website with High Availability — The wiki's web host Linode features a guide on how to host a website with high availability. I can understand at most seven words of this, and I'm not sure how well it applies to wikis, but it might be helpful to someone. (They also have guides for enabling HTTPS, which improves security... Maybe performance too, but I've heard mixed things about that.)
  • Special:Version — The wiki is currently powered by MediaWiki 1.15, which released in 2011. Later versions have added collapsible elements, citation features, slideshow galleries, an optional visual editor interface, the ability to rename categories, and most relevant to this particular discussion, improved performance. The current stable release is 1.41.
  • HRWiki:Donations — I just discovered that the wiki moved servers in 2011 to cut back on expenses, which apparently resulted in slower load times (at least initially, while settings were still being optimized). According to Special:Ledger, there haven't been any donations since then (additionally, it still lists FellowSites hosting dues instead of the new host). I've seen multiple people offering to donate if they could, so if the more recent slowness is once again a financial issue, it might help to get the donation links working again.
  • Special:ListUsers&group=developer — I have no way of knowing how actively people have been working on maintaining backend stuff, but I can see that of the six developers, only It's dot com and Tom have been editing consistently since 2016. I realize I'm asking quite a lot of two people at most, and I really don't want to be too demanding... so I can't help but wonder if my suggestions might seem more reasonable if there were more people responsible for backend maintenance. I'm not qualified for that sort of thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were active users with MediaWiki and/or web development experience. As much as I want this wiki to be accessible to more people, I really don't want anyone losing sleep over it.

Anyway, sorry I can't offer more help than this, but I hope someone finds this stuff useful (and that I didn't get anything terribly wrong)! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, I decided to use Special:Statistics and the WayBack Machine to calculate roughly how many people have been affected by the slow load times. After comparing the last seven months (from around the start of the slowdowns to now) to the seven months prior, I found that the average number of edits per day has decreased from 22 to 14, and the average number of active users has dropped from 27 to 17. That's a 37% decrease in both areas, leading me to believe they are linked by a common cause...
Unfortunately I couldn't figure out if that percentage corresponded to anything specific, like "37% of people use this certain type of Internet connection"... That information would tell me which people are having problems accessing the wiki, and from there I might be able to research a potential solution, assuming any of that works the way I think it does. Maybe I'll do an off-site poll somewhere, but I'd need to know what information would be most pertinent to ask... Would that be helpful at all? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait a minute, it seems fine now. What happened? — 71.195.40.33 (Talk | contribs) 08:25, November 15, 2024 (UTC) (left unsigned)

[edit] Availability of the wiki over https

Are there any plans to upgrade the wiki from http to https? --UN TACO 00:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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